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post #1 of 122
10/13/04 at 5:45pm
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Expect sore eardrums tonight as Furious George tries to scream his way back into contention.
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post #2 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:01pm
Watch for the wire patdown during the opening handshake.
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post #3 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:03pm
Bush's winking is creepy!
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post #4 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:10pm
So bush already lied within minutes of the debate starting when he denied the osama comment and called it an 'exaggeration.'


Here's the quote bush lied about:
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You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you._... I don't know where he is.__I__--__I'll repeat what I said.__I truly am not that concerned about him.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0020313-8.html
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post #5 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:12pm
Kerry: 5 million Americans have lost their health insurance.

Bush smiles.

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post #6 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:13pm
Every question gets a follow up so far.
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post #7 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:18pm
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What's with the white stuff in the corner of his mouth. It's driving me crazy.
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post #8 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:21pm
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"To have the president lecture me about fiscal responsability is like Tony Soprano lecturing about law & order."
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post #9 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:21pm
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Originally posted by Northgate
What's with the white stuff in the corner of his mouth. It's driving me crazy.

It's driving us nuts, too!
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post #10 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:24pm
Is bush high? He just keeps giggling. It's seriously making me lol.
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post #11 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:24pm
Maybe I wasn't listening, but I think that it's possible that both of these candidates have a plan of some sort.
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post #12 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:26pm
Bush is cracking me up. After the end of every answer he just stares with this goofy grin on his face.
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post #13 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:30pm
The President is very sharp this evening.
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post #14 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:33pm
Neither are warmed up yet, Kerry got a little traction on the outsourcing thing. Not much going on.

--oops....Kerry just quoted James and then went into a solid nonsequitur.


I'm not sure either are going to take any chances.

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and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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post #15 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:33pm
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Originally posted by dmz
Neither are warmed up yet, Kerry got a little traction on the outsourcing thing. Not much going on.

--oops....Kerry just quoted James and then went into a solid nonsequitur.


I'm not sure either are going to take any chances.

I think Kerry was trying to bait the pres into a discussion of faith/deeds.
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post #16 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:35pm
"Gosh I hope it's not the administration."
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post #17 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:35pm
kerry slammed him. haha. "Bush talking about financial responsibility is like Tony Soprano talking about law and order in this country."

And there's the laugh. And smirk. Bush is going down the tubes. He lost.

Oh and did you know John Kerry is out of the mainstream? I didn't. Thanks Bush! They must've gotten that from www.factcheck.com

Oh and the buggy and horse days. He can't talk.
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post #18 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:37pm
EXCELLENT point on healthcare by Bush, the market [users] need[s] to get WAY more involved in the use of healthcare.


Buggy--and--horse days?!! BAD Bush! BAD Bush!

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and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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post #19 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:37pm
Don't you understand that Kerry is all hot air and false promises?
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post #20 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:38pm
Anyone who thinks medicare is a sugar daddy to ANY PARTY needs to sit down talk with someone who bills them.

In our desire to impose form on the world we have lost the capacity to see the form that is there;
and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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post #21 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:41pm
where is Kerry's crack pipe? I just heard him say he's going to throw MORE MONEY at the same healthcare system and lower costs.


WHAT A FRELLING MORON!! He's treating his audiance like IDIOTS!

In our desire to impose form on the world we have lost the capacity to see the form that is there;
and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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In our desire to impose form on the world we have lost the capacity to see the form that is there;
and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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post #22 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:42pm
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Originally posted by Common Man
Don't you understand that Kerry is all hot air and false promises?

so is bush
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post #23 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:44pm
bush " our health care is the envy of the world"


ROFL....hahahaha what a moron

i was up in canada with my wife 2 years ago & i had a really
bad asthmatic attack...
i was rushed to the e.r where i had very competent docs
& charged $20 canadian
on top of that the doc gave me inhalers that normally cost u.s 60$
for free & said he hoped i would stay a while enjoy the country
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post #24 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:47pm
Bush is far more articulate tonight. They seem to have finally gotten his demeanor right here at the end (first debate, bad answers and bad posture; second, good answers but ALL THE YELLING).

But what the hell is that drop of spit in the corner of his mouth?!?!
Gangs are not seen as legitimate, because they don't have control over public schools.
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post #25 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:47pm
  • rok
  • the Casbah
nice point from cnn's paul begala on his blog:

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Schieffer just asked Kerry about Catholic bishops who say Kerry's an unacceptable candidate because of his positions on abortion and stem cell research.

Will he ask Bush about the Pope's condemnation of President Bush's support for the death penalty and his war in Iraq? Why is it that only one side is being asked about the aspect of the issue where he's out of step with the Church?
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You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

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When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

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post #26 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:47pm
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Originally posted by madmax559
so is bush

common boy was too young to remember 2000 and compassionate conservative, no nation building false promises
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post #27 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:48pm
  • rok
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Quote:
Originally posted by madmax559
bush " our health care is the envy of the world"


ROFL....hahahaha what a moron

i was up in canada with my wife 2 years ago & i had a really
bad asthmatic attack...
i was rushed to the e.r where i had very competent docs
& charged $20 canadian
on top of that the doc gave me inhalers that normally cost u.s 60$
for free & said he hoped i would stay a while enjoy the country

sigh. i miss canadian health care. i don't miss the 9-month winters i had to go through to earn it, though.
When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

-...
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When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

-...
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post #28 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:51pm
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Originally posted by rok
sigh. i miss canadian health care. i don't miss the 9-month winters i had to go through to earn it, though.

i was really surprised beacuse im not a canadian, my wife is
& this was a really bad emergency where my breathing stopped
heck u cant even get into the e.r here in the u.s on such short notice
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post #29 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:52pm
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Originally posted by rok
nice point from cnn's paul begala on his blog:
Schieffer just asked Kerry about Catholic bishops who say Kerry's an unacceptable candidate because of his positions on abortion and stem cell research.

Will he ask Bush about the Pope's condemnation of President Bush's support for the death penalty and his war in Iraq? Why is it that only one side is being asked about the aspect of the issue where he's out of step with the Church?


Because Bush doesn't go to church.
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post #30 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:52pm
Kerry: "later on after we find out SS is in trouble"? What?!!

Bush totally dropped the ball after Kerry's TOTAL doubletalk on SS.

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and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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post #31 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:52pm
Bush talks about fiscal sanity? WTF? Kerry needs to nail him on that.
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post #32 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:55pm
Hey, I just joined the debate ... who's doing better so far? Bush looks rather chipper, doesn't he? women apparantly didn't care for his aggressive stance in the last debate.
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post #33 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:56pm
he .. he .. he ...just doesnt understand

why are bush's attacks getting more & more personal ?
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post #34 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:57pm
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Originally posted by madmax559
he .. he .. he ...just doesnt understand

why are bush's attacks getting more & more personal ?

One word. I'll give you a clue: It begins with "d" and ends with "esperation."
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post #35 of 122
10/13/04 at 6:59pm
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Originally posted by midwinter
One word. I'll give you a clue: It begins with "d" and ends with "esperation."

What the fuck are you talking about?

That wasn't a clue - you gave the f*cking word away!
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post #36 of 122
10/13/04 at 7:00pm
Kerry is FOR rasing the minimum wage but AGAINST outsourcing?



What an Idiot -- who is he adressing, a 4th grade social studies class?

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and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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post #37 of 122
10/13/04 at 7:01pm
open question for common man

-what is your educational/economic background

-have you lived or travelled outside the united states

-are you self employed ?
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post #38 of 122
10/13/04 at 7:01pm
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"The No Child Left Behind Act is really a jobs program, if you think about it."
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post #39 of 122
10/13/04 at 7:01pm
MAN. Kerry keeps looking RIGHT INTO the camera. That works.
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post #40 of 122
10/13/04 at 7:04pm
Now Kerry is chiding Bush for Not fully funding NCLB to the tune of $2 trillion -- but ALSO wants to rip him on the budget deficit?


CLASSIC

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and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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