Apple introduces iPod Photo - Page 2

Well, we finally got a colour iPod when Berryl and Lynched said early 2005! Tee-Hee.

I think it looks fab.

Lemon Bon Bon

Looks like a great adition to the iPod lineup.

I'm not ready to ditch my 15gb 3G iPod yet, but when i do, it'll be the iPod Photo that i'm after. The colour interface looks excellent, and it's an excellent way to share photos easily, in a small package.

Cool.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm just stoked that they're offering a 60GB iPod at all. Finally there's something available that I'll be able to have my whole library on with some room to grow. The color screen and photo abilities are just icing on the cake. I've been waiting for this for a while.

Going to the Apple website made me think of fake, Photoshopped-up pictures that cover rumor forums all the time. Is that thing real? Very strange. I wish Apple would focus on computers as much as they focus on the "digital life." I see a new iPod on the Apple site almost as often as I visit. Now two on the same day? U2 and photo? Interesting...

While it's a nifty idea, it looks more like a toy than anything useful. Oh well...

This thing just blows! I mean, who the hell is Apple marketing this thing to? They seem to be snubbing their noses at the large majority of people who either don't take pictures, take crappy pictures that no one wants to see, or has no friends to show pictures to.

Its just like Apple. The original iPod just pretended that everyone had music collections. Well, what's the point of buying one of those if you don't have a single CD, huh? And their iMac G5 assumes that you want one of those 'com-pu-ter' things. Where's the iMac for the people who don't want or need a computer, huh?

No wonder this company is going out of business....

i think you forgot your "sarcasm" tags.

this man has a mission

Seriously though, the belkin card reader.. does it add the photos to the library on the ipod photo? or just stuff it in a folder which has to be added to the album later?

It's an extremely important issue, as this is supposed to take the place of a computer for on the road picture management.

I mean, what the hell are you supposed to do with the thing if there's no way to add pictures away from a computer?

FYI, I've posted some screen details here:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...49#post1102249

And you'll see I've posted there an image showing the REAL (pixel) size of the screen, so you can judge how fonts and thumbnails really look... Not bad at all!

No, it isn't supposed to be for picture management at all--any more than the iPod is for managing your music library.

It's for VIEWING and SHARING your library. (Management is of course easier handled on a computer screen--for photos and music alike. And contacts, calendars, notes...)

If you want to MANAGE your library with only an iPod, that's a cool idea maybe, but that's just not what the iPod Photo is for.

The iPod remains an output--not input--device. Limited input (voice, photos) is available via accessories.

That is amazing! Shame I have had my (own name engraved) iPod 4G for a month now, otherwise the 60GB woulda been the one. I'll just wait for the next incarnation (or the one after that).

Apple doesn't make one, but you can buy them through the Apple store. In fact you can do it even without the iPod Photo. So I'm not sure that's a valid complaint, unless it's just the fact that it doesn't come standard. The problem with making it standard is that there are so many different camera storage media that everyone would want something different.

I've got my 60 GB on order. I may have been happier with a simple 60 GB iPod (non-photo) at $500, though.

How about on-the fly albums or other stuff?

iPods can do this type of stuff with audio, is the iPod Photo just a bone thrown to the "omg color screens are the end-all!"

If the belkin can't meld with the album system, basically you'd have your photos on the ipod, but there's nothing you can do with them until you find another computer to work with.

I think that's a reasonable complaint, as it sure as heck couldn't be that complicated to figure out a way to do it.

In addition, there are other devices that play video out right now! and they're the size of ipods too.

"10,000 prOn in your pocket"

It just puts them into a folder on your iPod. It doesn't add them to the Photo viewer, not yet.


Look at pictures on a tiny screen, plug it into a TV or projector and look at your pictures on those devices.

\ I wonder if you could have the screen showing the album cover of the album your playing?

You know like maybe save a jpg image of the album cover and tie that into a playlist/slideshow.
Then when you play a album it will play a picture of the album cover.

Just a thought.

You can.

http://www.apple.com/ipodphoto/autosyncphotos.html

Or how about:
I mean, what the hell are you supposed to do with the thing if there's no way to add music away from a computer?

How has the iPod sold at all without those abilities?

Looks like some solid entries to the line-up. The Photo iPod is thicker still then the 60GB iPod but also offers more battery life. And the U2 iPod doesn't look that bad either. Cheers to Apple for a Tuesday with a ton of updates!

Love these days.

Anyone have any real world photos on the new iPods?

I've only seen 1 of the the iPod photo in the sock.

p.s. The socks aren't very functional, but they are really cool! The color combos are the bets and they'll fit my mini perfectly!

Where is the mic!!!!

Sigh.

Oh well. I have to get one to store pics of my girl on. It will keep me amused in class.

Now the mini looks REALLY out of date. It has to drop in price and jump in storage.

About the card reader: OK it needs one built in. Perhaps just the high end one. But instead of just a plain reader...why not...an expansion slot!!! And a new OS, and video playing, and it finally becomes a PDA. Add anything in. Hey, maybe even an add-on for a..phone! Like someone said, I think Apple is inching that way. They are just waiting for the iPod, cell phone, and PDA to merge. Now that I see how phones are evolving, I think Steve Jobs saw the big picture, and is executing right. Like I think amorph said, the new Apple knows how to execute. This was a good call. Except the mic grumble grumble...

built in behind the color screen. just yell at your ipod really loud as youre walking down the street.
(someone hide a video camera)

All the people out there that want a memory card reader built into the ipod are insane. How the hell is apple spose to keep the ipod as small as it is and put a memory card reader into the thing. Especially when the Belkin Media Reader works so well. I travel a lot and take a lot of pictures. I have no problem bringing the Media Reader with me. When my card is full I plug in the Media Reader and empty the card to the iPod. Also with so many different size memory cards out there which one are you spose to put on the iPod? With the Media Reader you have access to all types of cards. (which is great when traveling with friends who have different cameras, when the day is done I just upload all of their pictures to my iPod, that way they dont have to send them to me later.) The Media Reader is a GREAT accessesory and only the people that need it have to spend money on it. Versus putting one in the iPod and making everyone pay for it!!!! Dont you people understand that?

On another note....I would like to be able to view those photos that I upload to my iPod with the Media Reader...and then I'd also like to be able to sort those photos into On-The-Go photo albums on my iPod and have it sync up with iphoto and automatically add those albums to my photo library in my computer when I get home.

I think this is a nice first step for the iPod Photo. I recently just purchased a new 40gig iPod and will be content with it right up to the point that Apple comes out with their second generation iPod Photo next year at which time I WILL be happy to purchase.

Yeah, I agree that an integrated mic would be great and make them soooo much more useful in business and school without much cost in price or space ... but krikey ... all of the other bellyaching by the latter day Ray Atkeson's is just a bit much. If Belken could make a FW or USB adaptor to hook the iPod right to a camera, they would have done it so far. I don't want to pay for that standard.

Hopefully all of these will be just more accessories or maybe as iPod Photo Pro's. I think/hope this is just the beginning of innovation for the division that has really only just recently seperated ever so slightly from the mothership.

For those who hate the black and red U2 pod, wait until REM gets a brown/gold one and the Stones get a black and silver one! You guys seem to think this is the end of the story when its just the beginning.

I wouldn't mind the phone thing being a small clip-0n thing at the bottom either. I still like pda's for keeping track of expenses and for some of the gimicky apps and databases. Hope iPod keeps going that way too!

And to those who think the iPod photo misses the mark...why are you so upset? They didn't stop making the other ones, did they?

PS I think we will be seeing that the form factor of a 8-10" screen subnotebook is a profitable form factor....basically a big iPod that runs OSX and with all the inputs the pro-photographer wannabees need!

Another thought on why we dont need some sort of adapter to plug digital cameras right into the ipod....MORE CORDS! if its one thing I hate traveling with, its a bunch of cords...Always getting tangled in my bag, dangling everywhere. the Belkin Media Reader is perfect! small and compact, no cords hanging anywhere easily fits into the side pocket of my bag. Its clean and hassle free!

Geez I just realized that it may sound like I work for Belkin the way I'm going on about the Media Reader. Well I don't! I just use mine ALL the time and have found it to be as important when traveling as the iPod itself.

I will wait for the prices to drop over the next few revisions and the feature list to mature a bit. I am content with my 10GB iPod until then.

This is the first iPod product that has caught my attention since the 3G iPod. Good show.

This iPod is perfect for me. I couldn't have asked for anything more, except direct photo download and stereo recording.

I definitely wanted photo viewing.

I definitely wanted 60GB capacity.

I definitely wanted longer battery life.

Album art is nice, as is color solitaire (I play solitaire on my iPod all the time when I commute).

My $600 is spent.

You still can't put photo's on directly from your camera whilst on the move?

You still need a Belkin jumbo card reader thingy?

Still can't stick in a replacement battery pack?

Well it's an improvement but I'll be waiting a bit longer.

Here's something I've always wanted on the ipod and seems appropriate now:

A camera accessory!

just a simple thing, 640x480, snaps on like the media reader, maybe saves to a new iphoto album named for the date or something

potential obstacle I can think of - is there enough communication between an accessory like that and the ipod to show a viewfinder on main screen at a reasonable frame rate? And you would need special software to get the ipod to act as a viewfinder at all.

Or just an old-fashioned window in the body of the attachment itself, and you hold the ipod up to your face (although people have been spoiled by camera phones and holding digital cams at arm's length). Take a pic and it dumps it to the ipod drive like the media reader. View it later.

Maybe no one would care about this since camera phones are cheap now. It might go over well in Japan where even Gameboys had this kind of snap-on camera over 10 years ago (and a portable printer for it too)

At first I didn't understand what you were saying, but now I get it. And it seems cool.

Imagine a size the exact shape and size of the Griffin iTalk, but it has a shutter release button on it, and perhaps even a very small optical viewfinder and even a flash! Click. The image is saved to a special photo gallery on the iPod for future downloading to iPhoto when you sync.

The only disappointing thing for me--and this doesn't have anything to do with the new iPods--is that they didn't make marginal price reductions on the white iPod line.

But as for the new products, they look great even if beyond my price bracket!

Yeah but they dropped the prices significantly (25% and 20%)when the click wheel iPods were introduced just three months ago.

The Mini is due for a drop.

And the drift towards convergence continues.

Remember the Newton. Apple was years ahead of the market with that one. I'm sure Apple's brain trust came up with the cell phone-video cam-MP3 player-PDA-pocket mass storage device years ago - and all the pieces connected wirelessly. The problem with releasing such a device is it would cost a lot and be considered very complex by today's market. "Who wants something like that? It's so complicated. And $3000? No way."

Apple has taken the right approach with the iPod. Simplify the user interface to the point where the "average" person is comfortable with the device. See how the market responds - in the iPod's case, VERY well. Wait a couple years for users to get comfortable and then *BAM* add another level of features/complexity (photos).

Other manufacturers have released "better" devices in the past, but Apple has coupled their device with really great software - iTunes, iTMS, iPhoto.

- Jasen.

Actually...nothing is due for a drop until demand begins to level off a tad.

Expect drops (and perhaps the rumored new flash-based $149 pod) AFTER Christmas. Look at the Mini intro as a model. Apple is set for the holiday season me-thinks. Furthermore don't expect them to drop prices right away...maybe February/March to avoid any "30 day price guarantee" issues.

Don't know, but having this screen or a derivative of it in a future iPod would be one more step closer.

http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/P...ceSolutionNews

Ordered mine yesterday night and got "1-2 weeks" shipping, but it shipped this morning!

Joy!

P.S. My $.02...Apple is burrowing the iPod deeper into your private life. First your music, your way. Now your pictures your way.

Are you a proud parent? Much of Apple's target demograhpic is. Are you a Echo Boomer who wants to keep the memories they create with them all the time? There's the rest of Apple's consumer demo. Either way - f-'n fuhgetaboudit!!!

iPod is getting more personal, and that's a good thing for Apple.

Right on with this point. As the iPod slowly becomes your digital wallet of sorts it will begin to add features. But it did need a starting point to branch off from. And as the first model to include color screen and some photo organization it is a good first step. Now when you get back from traveling Europe on your honeymoon and want to show the parents your photos. you can just load up your iPod when you go to visit them and now you've got a wonderfull slide show for them to see on their tv.

I have to agree that I only see iPod getting bigger (more features rather than physical) as time goes on. I have also commented several times to friends and family that its a *pod* not a music player - it's portable access to your information/files.

I'd love to be able to record TV programs with the iPod, although the way it's going I don't see that happening (with it for listening to music, viewing iCal dates, address', pictures), so maybe an iapp for recording TV.

And I don't care for Steve Jobs' comments about computers never integrating with TV and that side of things, becuase he's done it with music, and he'll continue to do it to every other medium... As long as he does it as good as this, I'm all for it!

They are now shipping too, my wife's shipped today from China:

Wife's iPod Photo shipped