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post #1 of 17
11/2/04 at 12:06pm
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um what wrong with the people today ?
seems you can't voice an opnion without being
labelled a leftie or a liberal

i agree with some issues from both parties
(i'd say im moderate)
but what i find really annoying is the tendency
of the repblicans to immediately label anyone who
doesnt agree with them as a liberal

imho ..this is an extremely dangerous trend
same as branding anyone who doesnt agree with you
as unpatriotic.
i believe hitler used similar tactics to great success
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post #2 of 17
11/2/04 at 12:22pm
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Originally posted by madmax559
um what wrong with the people today ?
seems you can't voice an opnion without being
labelled a leftie or a liberal

i agree with some issues from both parties
(i'd say im moderate)
but what i find really annoying is the tendency
of the repblicans to immediately label anyone who
doesnt agree with them as a liberal

imho ..this is an extremely dangerous trend
same as branding anyone who doesnt agree with you
as unpatriotic.
i believe hitler used similar tactics to great success

Hmm...maybe shouldn't have mentioned Hitler....whatever...bygones.

You know what always cracks me up - all these people not being ashamed of being right-wing.

When I was a teenager it was an object of derision and no-one would admit to it even if they were.

It was way the most uncool thing you could possibly ever be.

Still is round here but they're actually proud of it.

Strange world. Must have something to do with dumbing down and sub-zero attention spans.
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post #3 of 17
11/2/04 at 12:56pm
Quote:
Originally posted by madmax559
um what wrong with the people today ?
seems you can't voice an opnion without being
labelled a leftie or a liberal

i agree with some issues from both parties
(i'd say im moderate)
but what i find really annoying is the tendency
of the repblicans to immediately label anyone who
doesnt agree with them as a liberal

imho ..this is an extremely dangerous trend
same as branding anyone who doesnt agree with you
as unpatriotic.
i believe hitler used similar tactics to great success

I find it to be the opposite. For example if you show anything other than blind support for embryonic stem cell research or maybe unregulated abortion then you are labeled right wing religious nutcase trying to force your religion down other peoples throat.
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post #4 of 17
11/2/04 at 1:15pm

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Originally posted by Hermann Goering (Gestapo/Nazi leader)
Why of course the people don't want war... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they're being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.

Nuremberg 1946
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post #5 of 17
11/2/04 at 4:28pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scott
I find it to be the opposite. For example if you show anything other than blind support for embryonic stem cell research or maybe unregulated abortion then you are labeled right wing religious nutcase trying to force your religion down other peoples throat.


well...
what part of the country are you in ?
what is your edcation level & religious affliation ?

just curious.. im trying to understand your thinking
my feeling is if people dont want stem cell research then they are
entitled to that belief, but they shouldnt make hasty decisions without
understanding what the research is about.

as for religious beliefs i feel its a personal thing & people should be left
alone to their beliefs
however i have been pestered more than a few times by people who insist
i go to church...despite pointing out im not a christian,,,,,,,
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post #6 of 17
11/2/04 at 6:31pm
Mostly I'm talking about the reaction I get here at AI. If I express some doubt about the ethics of embryonic stem cell research I'm branded a religious fanatic.

So your thesis that "you can't voice an opnion without being labelled a leftie or a liberal" is either wrong or incomplete IMO.
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post #7 of 17
11/2/04 at 6:51pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scott
Mostly I'm talking about the reaction I get here at AI. If I express some doubt about the ethics of embryonic stem cell research I'm branded a religious fanatic.

So your thesis that "you can't voice an opnion without being labelled a leftie or a liberal" is either wrong or incomplete IMO.

you still havent answered my q

you are free to express your opinions on any research as you please
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post #8 of 17
11/2/04 at 7:05pm
i'm a christian and i support non-embreonic stem-cell research
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post #9 of 17
11/2/04 at 7:32pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by Neø
i'm a christian and i support non-embreonic stem-cell research

good....

now if the embryo was going to be discarded anyway then why not use
that for stem cell research ?
to me its like when a person is dead & has body parts that could save lives
so why not use them

what are your thought on that ?
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post #10 of 17
11/2/04 at 7:34pm
Quote:
Originally posted by Scott
I find it to be the opposite. For example if you show anything other than blind support for embryonic stem cell research or maybe unregulated abortion then you are labeled right wing religious nutcase trying to force your religion down other peoples throat.

Sorry, who supports unregulated abortion? Don't exaggerate.
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post #11 of 17
11/2/04 at 7:40pm
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Originally posted by madmax559
good....

now if the embryo was going to be discarded anyway then why not use
that for stem cell research ?
to me its like when a person is dead & has body parts that could save lives
so why not use them

what are your thought on that ?

that makes sense, but why should we be discarding embryos in the first place?

why don't we instead of killing, freeze them and then implant them into women who are infertile?

and studies had also shown that non-embryonic stem cells are less likely to kill lab animals when injected into them, than embryonic stem cells...
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-Rep. Roscoe Bartlett
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post #12 of 17
11/2/04 at 7:41pm
Quote:
Originally posted by tonton
Sorry, who supports unregulated abortion? Don't exaggerate.

Clinton
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post #13 of 17
11/2/04 at 7:43pm
Quote:
Originally posted by Neø
Clinton

and Bush. Who wants a amendment to ban gay marriage? Bush. Look an amendment about gay marriage will show how corrupt america is and see how the constitution is nothing more then personal usage.
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post #14 of 17
11/2/04 at 7:47pm
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Originally posted by Neø
Clinton

Clinton supports unregulated abortion? No states rights to determine rules regarding late term abortion? No medical requirements (i.e. licensed practitioners)?

Are those not regulations, or are you just a liar?
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post #15 of 17
11/2/04 at 7:56pm
i didn't say politically, just personally, since he supports the Freedom of Choice Act...
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-Rep. Roscoe Bartlett
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post #16 of 17
11/2/04 at 8:09pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by Neø
why don't we instead of killing, freeze them and then implant them into women who are infertile?

and studies had also shown that non-embryonic stem cells are less likely to kill lab animals when injected into them, than embryonic stem cells...


great you have links to support that claim ?
if so please post them
i wasnt aware that an embryo transplant was possible as yet


as for abortion. i strongly support a womans right to choose
hey they are carrying the baby, if the guys feel so strongly then
why dont they go through all the pain.
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post #17 of 17
11/2/04 at 8:48pm
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Originally posted by Scott
Mostly I'm talking about the reaction I get here at AI. If I express some doubt about the ethics of embryonic stem cell research I'm branded a religious fanatic.

So your thesis that "you can't voice an opnion without being labelled a leftie or a liberal" is either wrong or incomplete IMO.

Embryonic stem-cell research? What's that?
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