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post #81 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by New
I think this is a normal raction when all logic is thrown out the window...

...or just sour-grapes-induced spin. Logic is the last thing to associate with the left at this point. It's ridiculous. Can't they just quietly go down with their sinking ship, instead of whining how awful the world is since they cannot have their way? They cannot even lose gracefully, as high-minded they claim to be (quite frequently, I might add).
Lauren Sanchez? That kinda hotness is just plain unnatural.
Lauren Sanchez? That kinda hotness is just plain unnatural.
post #82 of 209
I strongly supported and voted Kerry.

To all of you who didn't vote for Kerry, I only have this to say to you...

I hope nothing bad will happen to this country, or anyone anywhere because of terrorists, I pray for the best, and I hope I am wrong about what I think Bush will do to this country, but anyone who didn't vote for Kerry, I hold you personally responsible for the actions of Bush for the next 4 years.

It doesn't matter if the outcome is bad or good, but you are responsible, and know that you are just as responsible for it going bad as you are for it going good.

I couldn't wish to be more wrong, so I wish you the best of luck I can.
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post #83 of 209
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Originally posted by ast3r3x
but anyone who didn't vote for Kerry, I hold you personally responsible for the actions of Bush for the next 4 years.

It doesn't matter if the outcome is bad or good, but you are responsible, and know that you are just as responsible for it going bad as you are for it going good.


Does that mean we are grounded for a week and can't use the car?
Shyt.


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post #84 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by jccbin
A little real history for the noneducated on this list.

20th and 21st century liberalism in the USA is ENTIRELY based upon the doctrines of Communism, not upon the general definition of "liberalism."

Stalin is the ultimate Liberal (to American liberals) since he was the ultimate communist.

Liberalism, as the general dictionaries define it, is what the Europeans might call Progressivism or Liberal Democracy. MANY, MANY US citizens rightfully would fall into these categories. But they have been co-opted by the chiildren of the Comintern - the current Democratic Leadership.

Make no mistake: the Democratic Leadership in the USA is fully formed from the Communist/Socialist mold, NOT from the progressive mold. They would enslave every citizen for their own benefit if they could make it happen. (And this is what The Second Amendment prevents, BTW.)

Most Americans are classically liberal at heart: They believe in individual liberty and individual responsibility, with as small a government as possible to prevent that government from taking away the rights of the people.

The so-called gay marriage amendments are the result of 70 years of Communistic-liberal growth of government: The government imposed restrictions on inheritance, tax liability, and other things so that benefits innure to legally married couples. Individuals and groups have the right to not agree with homosexuality and to not support it. There would be no problem with "gay marriage" if government-sanctioned regulations (such as those which govern insurance) did not demand that couples be married legally to get mutual benefits.

If the argument is over equal treatment, then the government is at fault, not those who wish to protect their individual rights to disagree with homosexuality. The over-large government created the problem by assigning the requirement of marriage through its millions of regulations.

If the argument is just trying to take "marriage" away from its religious meaning, then the homosexual lobby is at fault. Are they trying to become part of these religions? Religious freedom is 100% guaranteed in the U.S. Even religions that worship evil are protected. While the anti-theists want to destroy religion, the atheists want to make everyone worship their "god:" an empty hole. Religions are not like country clubs: you cannot force them to let you in if you don't follow their doctrine. And the doctrine is that marriage is a heterosexual thing. Not a gay thing. I'm all for gays and lesbians getting all the secular benefits of marriage. I'd like to see roommates be able to inherit property without taxes, even. But to force every religion to recognize gay marriage? That's too much, and too fast.

Liberalism must be destroyed.

Your fucking crazy...
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post #85 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by New
Your fucking crazy...

YOU'RE fucking confusing YOUR homonyms.
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post #86 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by Jubelum
YOU'RE fucking confusing YOUR homonyms.

Well, I'm luckily not american... right back at you...
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- "Senator, you are a politician, first tell us a lie!"
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- "Senator, you are a politician, first tell us a lie!"
post #87 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by jccbin
A little real history for the noneducated on this list.

[snip]

NOTE: This was too long, Dont be an ass and suggest I get moderated because I changed a blockquote, mmmmkay!


Dear Lord.

Please protect me from your followers. Better still, when its not too much trouble - can you rapture them as soon as you find the time

Amen.
post #88 of 209
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Originally posted by Anna Mated
Dear Lord.

Please protect me from your followers. Better still, when its not too much trouble - can you rapture them as soon as you find the time

Amen.

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post #89 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by jccbin
A little real history for the noneducated on this list.

20th and 21st century liberalism in the USA is ENTIRELY based upon the doctrines of Communism, not upon the general definition of "liberalism."

Stalin is the ultimate Liberal (to American liberals) since he was the ultimate communist.

Liberalism, as the general dictionaries define it, is what the Europeans might call Progressivism or Liberal Democracy. MANY, MANY US citizens rightfully would fall into these categories. But they have been co-opted by the chiildren of the Comintern - the current Democratic Leadership.

Make no mistake: the Democratic Leadership in the USA is fully formed from the Communist/Socialist mold, NOT from the progressive mold. They would enslave every citizen for their own benefit if they could make it happen. (And this is what The Second Amendment prevents, BTW.)

Most Americans are classically liberal at heart: They believe in individual liberty and individual responsibility, with as small a government as possible to prevent that government from taking away the rights of the people.

The so-called gay marriage amendments are the result of 70 years of Communistic-liberal growth of government: The government imposed restrictions on inheritance, tax liability, and other things so that benefits innure to legally married couples. Individuals and groups have the right to not agree with homosexuality and to not support it. There would be no problem with "gay marriage" if government-sanctioned regulations (such as those which govern insurance) did not demand that couples be married legally to get mutual benefits.

If the argument is over equal treatment, then the government is at fault, not those who wish to protect their individual rights to disagree with homosexuality. The over-large government created the problem by assigning the requirement of marriage through its millions of regulations.

If the argument is just trying to take "marriage" away from its religious meaning, then the homosexual lobby is at fault. Are they trying to become part of these religions? Religious freedom is 100% guaranteed in the U.S. Even religions that worship evil are protected. While the anti-theists want to destroy religion, the atheists want to make everyone worship their "god:" an empty hole. Religions are not like country clubs: you cannot force them to let you in if you don't follow their doctrine. And the doctrine is that marriage is a heterosexual thing. Not a gay thing. I'm all for gays and lesbians getting all the secular benefits of marriage. I'd like to see roommates be able to inherit property without taxes, even. But to force every religion to recognize gay marriage? That's too much, and too fast.

Liberalism must be destroyed.

Funny, one of the very rare french politician who was for Bush and claimed it was Madelin. And Madelin claim to be a liberal.

I think that you have a strange definition of liberal

I will give you a golden award for this one :
Stalin is the ultimate Liberal (to American liberals) since he was the ultimate communist.
post #90 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by Powerdoc
I think that you have a strange definition of liberal

I will give you a golden award for this one :
Stalin is the ultimate Liberal (to American liberals) since he was the ultimate communist.

Apparently, he snuck into DNC HQ and found the secret hidden meeting room with Stalin's portrait on the wall, bearing the caption Our Hero.
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post #91 of 209
Stalin is actually the ultimate facist. His rule represents the link, the point where the two edges of the political spectrum wrap around and touch. Stalin took the communist ideal of people with (forced) absolute equality and transformed them into the anonymous masses of fascist totalitarianism. He isn't the ultimate communist, but he used communism to rise to power and used it as a means to control the masses. Like Orwell said, everyone is greated equal, but some were created more equal than others. Stalin holds a special place in political science. Can we get past that part now?
post #92 of 209
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Originally posted by BuonRotto
Stalin is actually the ultimate facist. His rule represents the link, the point where the two edges of the political spectrum wrap around and touch. Stalin took the communist ideal of people with (forced) absolute equality and transformed them into the anonymous masses of fascist totalitarianism. He isn't the ultimate communist, but he used communism to rise to power and used it as a means to control the masses. Like Orwell said, everyone is greated equal, but some were created more equal than others. Stalin holds a special place in political science. Can we get past that part now?

Buon gets it. Why can't all of you...?

Thanks for putting that better than I have ever heard it said in any political science class. Well done.

8)
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post #93 of 209
First of all, wrt to Lincoln freeing the slaves: Lincoln didn't care about slavery one way or the other, he only freed the slaves because he thought it would help save the Union. Anyone who's studied U.S. history should know this.

Quote:
Originally posted by 7E7
More ridiculous spin. Iraqi citizens support the United States and want to take control of their country back from Saddam Hussein. Why would they keep lining up at military and police recruiting centers even after their colleagues are being killed in these terrorist bombings? They know that terrorism is their enemy too and to that end we are fighting it together.

Wrong, Iraqi citizens want to take control of their country back from US. They're lining up at military and police recruiting centers because they CAN'T FIND WORK. But insurgents are attacking US because because they want US to get the hell out.
post #94 of 209
Kerry meets Gore in 2004?

Eh? Eh??

Kerry addresses people: Spin is on the way...
Lauren Sanchez? That kinda hotness is just plain unnatural.
Lauren Sanchez? That kinda hotness is just plain unnatural.
post #95 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by ast3r3x
I strongly supported and voted Kerry.

To all of you who didn't vote for Kerry, I only have this to say to you...

I hope nothing bad will happen to this country, or anyone anywhere because of terrorists, I pray for the best, and I hope I am wrong about what I think Bush will do to this country, but anyone who didn't vote for Kerry, I hold you personally responsible for the actions of Bush for the next 4 years.

It doesn't matter if the outcome is bad or good, but you are responsible, and know that you are just as responsible for it going bad as you are for it going good.

I couldn't wish to be more wrong, so I wish you the best of luck I can.

See what you all have become? This negative discourse is what has turned off so many Americans. This thread started off by somebody asking for forgiveness for those who voted for Bush. I don't need your forgiveness so don't apologize for me. That is very insulting to me and everyone else who see the world differently and it is not your place to make such an apology. Why can't you people just disagree without being so arrogant and condescending? It is that arrogant attitude that turns off so many people.
post #96 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by 7E7
See what you all have become? This negative discourse is what has turned off so many Americans. This thread started off by somebody asking for forgiveness for those who voted for Bush. I don't need your forgiveness so don't apologize for me. That is very insulting to me and everyone else who see the world differently and it is not your place to make such an apology. Why can't you people just disagree without being so arrogant and condescending? It is that arrogant attitude that turns off so many people.

anyway... I forgive you...
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- "Senator, you are a politician, first tell us a lie!"
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- "Senator, you are a politician, first tell us a lie!"
post #97 of 209
I'll throw this in:

America is NOT its government. It is its people, all immigrants from backgrounds going back tens of thousands of years. From the American Indians who emigrated here across the Bering Strait to those who cross the Rio Grande illegally, this nation is unique in all the world.

The USA is the world's oldest functioning democracy.

The USA is the only nation to save the world from European evil, twice.

The USA is the only superpower guided by a moral compass and not by political greed. Make no mistake, if the USA were evil, the world would be enslaved under our nuclear thumb.

Sometimes poltical opportunists get power here. Sometimes they become president or majority leader or a Joint Chiefs General. Sometimes, like our previous president, they think they can sell their pardons and sexually abuse their staffs. Sometimes they think they can spy on the other party (like Nixon did).

But the thing you all need to keep in mind is that these 280 million people have never, ever slipped into tyranny like you Europeans. They have never, ever embarked on empire building like you dear Europeans.

Why?

Because the people control the government. The media does not. The elite do not. The so-called intelligentsia do not. The common man and woman, through their vote and their firearms, keep the potential madmen in check and dare the overzealous general to mount a coup.

Moderation is an ending point, not a starting point.

Liberalism must be destroyed.
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post #98 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by ast3r3x
I strongly supported and voted Kerry.

To all of you who didn't vote for Kerry, I only have this to say to you...

I hope nothing bad will happen to this country, or anyone anywhere because of terrorists, I pray for the best, and I hope I am wrong about what I think Bush will do to this country, but anyone who didn't vote for Kerry, I hold you personally responsible for the actions of Bush for the next 4 years.

It doesn't matter if the outcome is bad or good, but you are responsible, and know that you are just as responsible for it going bad as you are for it going good.

I couldn't wish to be more wrong, so I wish you the best of luck I can.

i was just thinking that, over the next four years, the republicans MIGHT have done themselves a big disservice. why? because there are NO MORE EXCUSES. any problems, any disasters, any unrest, any failed programs are their fault, because nothing stands in their way. republican held congress, house, senate, and one or two new supreme court appointees? edit: by the way, to all you republicans, i will also say this... you will reap all of the rewards as well, if everythign turns out great.

sometimes being the monolithic monopoly of power can be a real bitch as all eyes turn on you. just ask microsoft.
When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

-...
When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

-...
post #99 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by 7E7
See what you all have become? This negative discourse is what has turned off so many Americans. This thread started off by somebody asking for forgiveness for those who voted for Bush. I don't need your forgiveness so don't apologize for me. That is very insulting to me and everyone else who see the world differently and it is not your place to make such an apology. Why can't you people just disagree without being so arrogant and condescending? It is that arrogant attitude that turns off so many people.

wow, you took a comment that was intended to be an even handed "you have the reigns" admission, and somehow twisted it into "negative discourse"? and like i said before, this is not some friendly sports rivalry where people can cheer, boo, and disagree at the end of the day, because this sh!t affects out lives every waking and unwaking minute.

i think we all know where the arrogance label needs to be applied.
When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

-...
When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

-...
post #100 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by 7E7
See what you all have become? This negative discourse is what has turned off so many Americans. This thread started off by somebody asking for forgiveness for those who voted for Bush. I don't need your forgiveness so don't apologize for me. That is very insulting to me and everyone else who see the world differently and it is not your place to make such an apology. Why can't you people just disagree without being so arrogant and condescending? It is that arrogant attitude that turns off so many people.

This seems to be turning into the classic

'I'll fight and have big words, scream and rant, I'll cheat and lie, deceive and divide, I'm right and you're wrong because it says so in the Bible.'

and when you get what you want and everyone hates you

'I'm humble, insulted, persecuted for my faith, victimized, just want to live in peace. Dont understand why you hate me'

I see who you (collective context) are.
post #101 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by rok
i was just thinking that, over the next four years, the republicans MIGHT have done themselves a big disservice. why? because there are NO MORE EXCUSES. any problems, any disasters, any unrest, any failed programs are their fault, because nothing stands in their way. republican held congress, house, senate, and one or two new supreme court appointees?

sometimes being the monolithic monopoly of power can be a real bitch as all eyes turn on you. just ask microsoft.

Oh, but everything's gonna turn into milk and honny now... don't you get it?
Bill Bradley to comedian Bill Cosby: "Bill, you are a comic, tell us a joke!"
- "Senator, you are a politician, first tell us a lie!"
Bill Bradley to comedian Bill Cosby: "Bill, you are a comic, tell us a joke!"
- "Senator, you are a politician, first tell us a lie!"
post #102 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by 7E7
See what you all have become? This negative discourse is what has turned off so many Americans. This thread started off by somebody asking for forgiveness for those who voted for Bush. I don't need your forgiveness so don't apologize for me. That is very insulting to me and everyone else who see the world differently and it is not your place to make such an apology. Why can't you people just disagree without being so arrogant and condescending? It is that arrogant attitude that turns off so many people.

Why would you quote my post but talk about the opening post. Kinda silly.

See what you have become? Your positive discourse about how well things are going is what turns the world off. This thread started as a message from non Bush supporters to the rest of the world, but you for some reason felt it was your business to come and show to the rest of the world why Bush won. Thanks I guess, although your pretty annoying.
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post #103 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by jccbin
I'll throw this in:

America is NOT its government. It is its people, all immigrants from backgrounds going back tens of thousands of years. From the American Indians who emigrated here across the Bering Strait to those who cross the Rio Grande illegally, this nation is unique in all the world.

The USA is the world's oldest functioning democracy.

The USA is the only nation to save the world from European evil, twice.

The USA is the only superpower guided by a moral compass and not by political greed. Make no mistake, if the USA were evil, the world would be enslaved under our nuclear thumb.

Sometimes poltical opportunists get power here. Sometimes they become president or majority leader or a Joint Chiefs General. Sometimes, like our previous president, they think they can sell their pardons and sexually abuse their staffs. Sometimes they think they can spy on the other party (like Nixon did).

But the thing you all need to keep in mind is that these 280 million people have never, ever slipped into tyranny like you Europeans. They have never, ever embarked on empire building like you dear Europeans.

Why?

Because the people control the government. The media does not. The elite do not. The so-called intelligentsia do not. The common man and woman, through their vote and their firearms, keep the potential madmen in check and dare the overzealous general to mount a coup.

Moderation is an ending point, not a starting point.

Liberalism must be destroyed.

WOW
post #104 of 209
The world isn't enslaved under our nuclear thumb? Hm. Alright sir. Wild, wacky stuff.

(It's nuculer, by the way, for four more years).
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"The Roots of Violence: wealth without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without morality, science without humanity, worship without sacrifice, politics...
post #105 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by johnq
The world isn't enslaved under our nuclear thumb? Hm. Alright sir. Wild, wacky stuff.

(It's nuculer, by the way, for four more years).


Yea, we have NO RIGHT to have a strong national defense! IT'S NOT FAIR!



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post #106 of 209
QUOTE:The world isn't enslaved under our nuclear thumb?

I think you have a very weak definition of slavery if you think they are enslaved under our nuclear thumb.

:-)
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post #107 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by jccbin
A little real history for the noneducated on this list.

20th and 21st century liberalism in the USA is ENTIRELY based upon the doctrines of Communism, not upon the general definition of "liberalism."

Stalin is the ultimate Liberal (to American liberals) since he was the ultimate communist.

Liberalism, as the general dictionaries define it, is what the Europeans might call Progressivism or Liberal Democracy. MANY, MANY US citizens rightfully would fall into these categories. But they have been co-opted by the chiildren of the Comintern - the current Democratic Leadership.

Make no mistake: the Democratic Leadership in the USA is fully formed from the Communist/Socialist mold, NOT from the progressive mold. They would enslave every citizen for their own benefit if they could make it happen. (And this is what The Second Amendment prevents, BTW.)

Most Americans are classically liberal at heart: They believe in individual liberty and individual responsibility, with as small a government as possible to prevent that government from taking away the rights of the people.

The so-called gay marriage amendments are the result of 70 years of Communistic-liberal growth of government: The government imposed restrictions on inheritance, tax liability, and other things so that benefits innure to legally married couples. Individuals and groups have the right to not agree with homosexuality and to not support it. There would be no problem with "gay marriage" if government-sanctioned regulations (such as those which govern insurance) did not demand that couples be married legally to get mutual benefits.

If the argument is over equal treatment, then the government is at fault, not those who wish to protect their individual rights to disagree with homosexuality. The over-large government created the problem by assigning the requirement of marriage through its millions of regulations.

If the argument is just trying to take "marriage" away from its religious meaning, then the homosexual lobby is at fault. Are they trying to become part of these religions? Religious freedom is 100% guaranteed in the U.S. Even religions that worship evil are protected. While the anti-theists want to destroy religion, the atheists want to make everyone worship their "god:" an empty hole. Religions are not like country clubs: you cannot force them to let you in if you don't follow their doctrine. And the doctrine is that marriage is a heterosexual thing. Not a gay thing. I'm all for gays and lesbians getting all the secular benefits of marriage. I'd like to see roommates be able to inherit property without taxes, even. But to force every religion to recognize gay marriage? That's too much, and too fast.

Liberalism must be destroyed.

Fellow posters - we're witnessing the birth of a legend.

And I just found my new sig.
What is Faith? When your good deed pleases you and your evil deed grieves you, you are a believer. What is Sin? When a thing disturbs the peace of your heart, give it up - Prophet Muhammad
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post #108 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by Jubelum
Yea, we have NO RIGHT to have a strong national defense! IT'S NOT FAIR!

Hold on - isn't that the line for non-American (yet) countries ?
What is Faith? When your good deed pleases you and your evil deed grieves you, you are a believer. What is Sin? When a thing disturbs the peace of your heart, give it up - Prophet Muhammad
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post #109 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by segovius
Fellow posters - we're witnessing the birth of a legend.

I think its Common Man.
post #110 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by segovius
Hold on - isn't that the line for non-American (yet) countries ?

Shhhhh... we're getting to that. Starting with WalMarts and McDonalds. Eventually we will own it all. Like Monopoly without the cheating relative.

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post #111 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by Anna Mated
I think its Common Man.

so do I, he just built up the nerve to creep out of his shell...
Bill Bradley to comedian Bill Cosby: "Bill, you are a comic, tell us a joke!"
- "Senator, you are a politician, first tell us a lie!"
Bill Bradley to comedian Bill Cosby: "Bill, you are a comic, tell us a joke!"
- "Senator, you are a politician, first tell us a lie!"
post #112 of 209
I think there's enough bitterness and condescension on this forum alone to bring back Sam Kinison from the dead. You lefties scare the bejeezus out me. Frothing at the mouths about how intelligent and 'open-minded' you all are.

Dammitt!!! You WILL BE open minded!! You WILL believe that gay sex and pornography are the cornerstones of Society!!! REPENT!!! REPENT!!!

Really.

In our desire to impose form on the world we have lost the capacity to see the form that is there;
and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

In our desire to impose form on the world we have lost the capacity to see the form that is there;
and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

post #113 of 209
Ha? Not me.
"A more sensitive and caring Common man for 2005"
"A more sensitive and caring Common man for 2005"
post #114 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by Jubelum
Shhhhh... we're getting to that. Starting with WalMarts and McDonalds. Eventually we will own it all. Like Monopoly without the cheating relative.


nah. you forgot our greatest export to the rest of the world... Windows! just get all of these countries modernized and dependent on the technology, with the promise of joining us and our strong economy, then make sure you tell redmond to leave a backdoor (well, okay, one more than usual... where the president has the key). no need for nukes. just call any world leader getting out of line and tell 'em you'll plunge them into the dark ages with one keystroke if they keep misbehaving...

no muss. no fuss.

where is my tinfoil hat?
When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

-...
When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

-...
post #115 of 209
I will make a few comments while I'm here. I have a little advice for the Dem leadership: Don't scoff at The Common Man. You lost the election because you failed to connect with The Common Man. The President was vulnurable, but you could not take advantage of his weakness. The average American is not a religious zealot, but he won't support you if he thinks that you are mocking his faith or his intelligance. The Dem leadership aimed this campaign at the elite left, not at The Common Man. You turned The Common Man away when you needed him. The Dem leadership and strategy planners lost this election for you.
"A more sensitive and caring Common man for 2005"
"A more sensitive and caring Common man for 2005"
post #116 of 209
Quote:
Originally posted by Common Man
I will make a few comments while I'm here. I have a little advice for the Dem leadership: Don't scoff at The Common Man. You lost the election because you failed to connect with The Common Man. The President was vulnurable, but you could not take advantage of his weakness. The average American is not a religious zealot, but he won't support you if he thinks that you are mocking his faith or his intelligance. The Dem leadership aimed this campaign at the elete left, not at The Common Man. You turned The Common Man away when you needed him. The Dem leadership and strategy planners lost this election for you.

Oh my god, it's Bob Dole.
(referring to one's self in the third person)

Love ya, CM
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post #117 of 209
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Originally posted by Common Man
I will make a few comments while I'm here. I have a little advice for the Dem leadership: Don't scoff at The Common Man. You lost the election because you failed to connect with The Common Man. The President was vulnurable, but you could not take advantage of his weakness. The average American is not a religious zealot, but he won't support you if he thinks that you are mocking his faith or his intelligance. The Dem leadership aimed this campaign at the elete left, not at The Common Man. You turned The Common Man away when you needed him. The Dem leadership and strategy planners lost this election for you.

I think you've read too much Orson Scott Card, jccbin...
Bill Bradley to comedian Bill Cosby: "Bill, you are a comic, tell us a joke!"
- "Senator, you are a politician, first tell us a lie!"
Bill Bradley to comedian Bill Cosby: "Bill, you are a comic, tell us a joke!"
- "Senator, you are a politician, first tell us a lie!"
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Originally posted by dmz
You WILL believe that gay sex and pornography are the cornerstones of Society!

Ah, thank you for finally answering my questions from before. So you do conflate homosexuality with pornography as well as harbor some paranoid idea of a gay agenda = toppling heterosexual structures. Go it. Nice to know.

(Did I just prove your point about being condescending? I'm really just levelling with what was stated.)
post #119 of 209
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Originally posted by New
I think you've read too much Orson Scott Card, jccbin...

I'd say it was right smack on target. :l
Lauren Sanchez? That kinda hotness is just plain unnatural.
Lauren Sanchez? That kinda hotness is just plain unnatural.
post #120 of 209
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ast3r3x
[B]Why would you quote my post but talk about the opening post. Kinda silly.

It was your whole spiel about how you were going to hold Bush supporters personally responsible if some disaster were to happen. I am sorry if you think Bush is leading this country to certain disaster but the majority of Americans don't feel that way. Your arrogant rant linked in nicely with the person who started this topic in the first place. It is that arrogance that anybody who votes for Bush is some sort of dunce and I find that offensive. I don't think Kerry supporters are stupid - misguided perhaps - but I am not going to demonize those who don't fall in with our view of the world. It is just that level of arrogance that so many people out there find so galling.
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