Originally posted by NaplesX
What planet are you from? Just because i disagree with you, doesn't mean that I would kill you just as soon as look at you.
There is no need to overreact with statements that seem to me to be on the virge of slander. It would seem to me that someone that makes up enemies where there are none, is a far more dangerous person. And after that post, you're that guy.
I am just a little curious where that came from. I suggest that you back away from that statement since you don't know me and you are walking on very thin ice.
I just wanna get this straight - just because I don't walk hand-in-hand with the left wing mindset, I am a murderous thug? Please explain to me and the world how you make that leap, if you can even defend that rediculous statement. Amd how can you expect anyone to take you serious, outside your group of left-wing chearleaders here, if you are going to reach conclusions like that?
Seg that statement shows you may be right about WOT, except it should be the WOIT (war an intellegent thought).
While not directly endorsing this statement you conveniently ignoring how wromg a statement like this is. This guy makes an accusation so far out of the realm of civil debate, that you and your fellow pundits would be crying 'troll" and who know what else.
nd this guy thinks that he has a grasp on right and wrong. The sheer hupocracy abounds and astounds.
Don't worry. I don't expect anyone to take any action or try to explain. I have come to expect this type of thing and this only proves to me that my expectations were reasonable. I really don't care what this guy says or thinks, but I would hope that you do, since he is joining in your battle, as it were.
I think you are right. But things are polarized. I know who I blame for it but blame is no use so we don't need to go there.
We're all partisans now and you're right, it is a question of 'sides'. I don't agree with it in any way but I am caught up in it. Sometimes people lose it and it will happen more and more. People are just getting more and more pissed off and they are not being listened to.
I'll give you an example of where we're headed from history. It's from Islamic history and it explains why the religion is fubar now but I mean it as a metaphor for the thinking (or non thinking) we are talking about.
In original Islam there was a concept called ijtihad
. This was a belief that it was ok to question everything at all times.
If the local mullah made a statement you could question it. Publicly and vehemently for example. You could question the Qur'an, God - anything.
The theory was that since God gave man reason, then He must have wanted man to use it. That's what differentiated man from animal. And if God intended this then the use of reason could not possibly lead away from God.
The truth would be arrived at by reason and debate and the truth would make you free. Nothing was off limits because off-limits meant no freedom.
After a while, some power-crazed mullahs started to dislike the fact that people could say anything or question anything and they refused to engage in debate.
A struggle ensued where both sides became increasingly polarised. he rationalists still tried to debate but they couldn't debate with people who refused to debate and they had no other tool. Inevitably the mullahs won.
And after a while they banned the practice of debate and questioning altogether.
And that's why Islamic extremists are not rational. They have developed in a culture that replaced debate with faith. And 'faith' became autocratic.
I see the same process at work in the west. We're at the stage just before the 'mullahs' win.
Of course people get pissed off and blow their stack. Anyone who sees this process in action and its inevitibilty is essentially faced with their own extinction. Not literally (although perhaps so) but as a type.