Originally posted by dmz
If you think I'm going to comment on the mental dexterity of the 18-25 yo crowd you are out of your tree!
But seriously, where is the Islamofacism thing going? How will that growing element interface with exported American culture? Will democracy last in Afganistan? Is it right/just/ethical/possible to try to implement it in Iraq?
What is the left's answer to the growing threat of Islamofacsim? Hiw do you take the courrupt lemon of the Oil-for-favors program with Sadism Insane running the country, and turn it into lemonade?
Islamofascism - nice Israeli-coined buzz-word.
There is only one State or Institution that I think can fit this rather lame catch-all rubric: Wahabism - and by extension Saudi and other satellite Wahabi State. But essentially Saudi.
What is the left doing about it ? Bugger-all. What is the right doing about it ? Making more deals, giving free rein for human rights abuses and generally licking ass.
Essentially the situation is this: Saudi/Wahabis are the only fascists in the Islamic fold - they are also the number one ally of the US.
This Saudi fascism is actually the cause and the origin of much Islamic resistance and what you would call terrorism - if you know anything of the subject you know that the first radicals sprang up instigated by Khotb's analysis of the depravity of so called 'Islamic' rulers. Ie the Sauds - Bush's beloved partners. The US got onvolved by extension because
of being such a close ally.
If oth, you mean 'terrorism' or what you sometimes call 'evil' rather than Wahabism then you have a greater problem.
All the States and the majority of Jihadis (in the main) currently on the 'shit list' actually oppose the Saudis who the US support.
Look at some facts:
Saudi ('good'): no elections, women can't drive, gays imprisoned and punished sometimes killed, no other religions allowed, no alcohol, public beheadings.
That's the number one friend and ally. Let's see if the axis of evil can do any better:
Syria ('evil'): limited elections, Large Christian population with freedom of worship, small Jewish contingents, alcohol freely available, being gay not a crime, secular non-Islamic State.
I could go on but I'm sure you get the picture....um....er....well, anyway, bygones.
Also would like to ask what basis you judge Saddam to be so evil ? Btw why the childish name -twisting ? It ain't Pulitzer prize winning journalistic comment is it ?
And before you kick off - yes, I think Saddam was 'evil' in your terms though I don't believe in the concept (God - why is it always necessary to insert these riders ?), I just want to know the basis for your decision.
Was it because of the numbers killed ? Of so then what about when the US approaches similar numbers (that will be soon - we can have that argument at the time).
Or was it because he killed for different reasons ? Democracy and all that.
Or was it just because your leaders said it was so ?