OH GOD!!!!! [iWalk] - Page 7

The real revolution of the iWalk is that the doorknob knows where to scroll before you do it. Get turnaround to work and you'll see what I mean (I think).

[quote]Originally posted by invisible sun:
<strong>
also check out iWalk.com for more general weirdness!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Michael??? Has he learned to speel?

[quote]Originally posted by Anders:
<strong>Could anyone send the third .mov to SpiffyGuyC, kidred and me please?

ajk@mac.com</strong><hr></blockquote>

Actually, it's the first movie I can't get. The bootup.mov. I was able to view the turnaround. Looks real to me.

I can e-mail it to you guys, but its on the site... not the copy site, the real site.

If somebody sends me a working bootup.mov i will post it on my iDisk(i have 2) and on my web page!!!

Thinkdifferent1984@mac.com

<a href="http://www.interfacestudio.net/iwalk/movies/turnaround.mov" target="_blank">http://www.interfacestudio.net/iwalk/movies/turnaround.mov</a>

this worked dandy for me, that movie is the clencher.

Yeah, bootup is still a no-go for some reason. Cleared cache and everything.

-S

[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
<strong>

Actually, it's the first movie I can't get. The bootup.mov. I was able to view the turnaround. Looks real to me.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think about everyone can see sayhello and turnaround. Bootup is the hard one for many (including me). No pun intended.

For those who have seen it: so the big gnarly yo-yo wheel at the bottom serves to just change the orientation? That's efficient.

[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: LuckyJno ]</p>

[quote]Originally posted by Anders:
<strong>How will it fit in the vegan leather thing?</strong><hr></blockquote>

HAHAHAAHAHAHAH!!!!

OS X user here also can't get the bootup.mov to work but in turnaround I spot IR but I'd bet willing to be no airport...

I also don't think this has video out that big spot on the top middle is the on button (if the pics on the back are correct)... Hey it can't do everything since the thing is a handheld after all.. but I have seen firewire to video converters on the market and they are falling in price but who knows if the iWalk can support it of it they just work with video cams...

Dave

[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: DaveGee ]</p>

TCO pointed out how to get bootup to work.. save both bootup and turnaround.. open bootup (in quicktime).. click search, when asked.. then browse to where turnaround is saved.. i don't know why they did it like this, but.. there it is.

btw.. thanks tco!

I was thinking they were real, but now I think they are faked after watching all 3 videos. Never shown is the device powered up and being moved at the same time. turnaround.mov goes out of its way to show the devive from all angles, but it is not turned on. They just as they are about to turn the device on, the video is clipped. Next the video picks up in bootup.mov and the device again looks very posed and physically rigid and set in place like in the original !sayhello.mov. The only reason not to show the device being moved while running would be the aded difficulty. If you were filming it, wouldn't you show it being used while being handled?...the reason behind a mobility device to exist, yet this particular mobility device is not show moving.
My vote is now for fake, but damn the photos look nice.

[quote]Originally posted by confirmed:
<strong>TCO pointed out how to get bootup to work.. save both bootup and turnaround.. open bootup (in quicktime).. click search, when asked.. then browse to where turnaround is saved.. i don't know why they did it like this, but.. there it is.

btw.. thanks tco!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Doesn't work for me in OS X...unable to select Turnaround.

This just looks fake, plus, you get a choice of entering s password or passing a drawing test?

[quote]Originally posted by ThinkDifferent1984:
<strong>If somebody sends me a working bootup.mov i will post it on my iDisk(i have 2) and on my web page!!!

Thinkdifferent1984@mac.com</strong><hr></blockquote>

don't post on yor iDisk. If it IS real Apple could kill your account

I have seen the pictures and the movies and it doesn't look nearly as fake as their earlier iWalk mock-up. I am still hesitant to call it the real deal, but the videos are hard to ignore. My take on it is that it could be an early prototype (hence the rough edges and the awkward jogwheel) and that Apple has refined it since. I heard someone say that the iPod would not sell if Apple introduced this device, but the iWalk appears too thin even for the iPod's hard drive and no where did they mention that possibility so it would be no good as and MP3 player. I am still cautious since the iPaq has a circular bevel at the bottom that they could have altered, but dimentionally it seems thiner than the Pocket PCs and larger surface area than the Palms. The handwriting rec. was especially impressive, but I'm still metsa-metsa about it. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

Anders, I just sent you bootup.mov

This my fellow Mac Heads is as real as it gets! I'm sold and it will be the "oh, and one more thing" that Steve has become so famous for!

[quote]Originally posted by Northform:
<strong>I have seen the pictures and the movies and it doesn't look nearly as fake as their earlier iWalk mock-up. I am still hesitant to call it the real deal, but the videos are hard to ignore. My take on it is that it could be an early prototype (hence the rough edges and the awkward jogwheel) and that Apple has refined it since. I heard someone say that the iPod would not sell if Apple introduced this device, but the iWalk appears too thin even for the iPod's hard drive and no where did they mention that possibility so it would be no good as and MP3 player. I am still cautious since the iPaq has a circular bevel at the bottom that they could have altered, but dimentionally it seems thiner than the Pocket PCs and larger surface area than the Palms. The handwriting rec. was especially impressive, but I'm still metsa-metsa about it. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

the iPod HD is a Type II PC card.

same size as an airport card. it could fit in there

somebody send me boot up, please.

pshorner@NOSPAMattbi.com

Thanks.

SdC

[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: suckfuldotcom ]</p>

[quote]Originally posted by TCO:
<strong>Anders, I just sent you bootup.mov</strong><hr></blockquote>

Got it, thanks. And I resent it to whoever asked. Can be a couple of minutes. Mail.app died on me <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

This is an open letter to Apple Computer, its CEO Steve Jobs and its many wonderful employees:

Thanks for the biggest nostalgia-tinged hoot of the year!
This is the way it used to be in the old days multiplied by a million. Tease us in the morning and gig us at night, this is the best hoax I've seen in ages. It's April's Fool Day early, and well appreciated by some of us grizzled rumor-vets. I've got a great big grin on my face from the entire adventure....can't wait to see the real stuff next week.


Drewprops

Alright, as much as I want to see Bootup, I need to get a short nap before the next creepy slogan appears on the Apple site.

Since when did being an Apple fan turn into a 24-hour ordeal? This is ridiculous

In any case, if someone could email a copy of
"bootup" that does NOT require me to find turnaround (since OS X doesn't seem to want to do this), please do - spiffyguyc@mac.com

Have fun while I'm away.

-S

why would Apple use a big jog dial like that with no button function when they could have used the much better iPod jog dial? makes no sense.

the thing that makes me think its real is the turn around move. look at the top with the ports. that's pretty damn hard to fake

Correction: get bootup.mov to work. I opened it with QuickTime 5 for Windows 98 by renaming it to turnaround.mov. When it asks for turnaround.mov, click Search. You will get a dialog box that says 'Please locate the file "turnaround.mov". It was previously on "CD Archiv B".' Select the file that you just opened. Watch garbage fly up on the screen. Play the movie. Watch the knob. Watch the cheesy, shitty effects. Watch QuickTime crash due to a page fault. If the iWalk is real, why did they feel the need to fake that video?

Put my vote in the Fake column.

As a longtime owner of a Newton, the handwriting recog portions look... wrong. Check out *CLOSELY* where the ink shows up on the screen, and it doesn't seem to correspond to where the stylus tip would be given the angles. It always shows up about 4mm to the left of where it should be, from what I can tell. Also, the ink looks way too crisp compared to the rest of the display. Also note that you never actually *SEE* the stylus tip on the screen, the hand is always in the way.

It's a fake. A very very *good* fake, but a fake. At best, it's a damned good demo video designed for a private audience of a possible product pitch.

"Beyond the rumor sites. Way beyond."

This is probly not the real thing, but rather a prototype of a device that will never see the light of day as a shipping product.

Hmm still doesn´t work. Perhaps its my system?

[quote]Originally posted by Mac The Fork:
<strong>If the iWalk is real, why did they feel the need to fake that video?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Amen. As much as I'd love to have a superthin newton to replace my Palm... I'm betting the iWalk is fake.

Still, this is more fun (and more worth my time) that anything mosr has put out... umm.... ever.

[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: LuckyJno ]</p>

Now I'm just really confused. I dont see why anyone would go to such trouble to create a hoax like this.

I still think the text in the original movie was composited in, it really looks like the pod shifts. The bootup movie could clearly be faked as well, there's nothing in it simple f/x work couldnt do.

The thumb/logo shift thing may be something to worry about, that looks more like a compression error, but I dont know why they would screw that up. Personally, I find it more interesting that when it flips view direction, the bottom menu takes an extra frame or two to load, im not sure why the rest of the screen would be instantaneous, but a delayed switch for part of it as it thinks is more likely, and an extra detail requiring more post work.

Finally, the back of it has the same logos I find on my Cassiopeia warning about FCC regulations etc... Although it bugs me that iWalk is in black and not silver like the iPod? Durability?

Oh yea, and about it never moving and being on at the same time, if I made a prop like this, and was doing such an elaborate hoax, the extra 20 minutes to acurately nail the layer on to a moving screen would be worth it.

The phrase uttered in the middle of the turnaround movie sounds german to me, but I can't quite make it out.

I also doubt apple would have a protruding wheel. At worst, I suppose it could be a button which you push and it pulls out a bit. Otherwise its a design mistake, it would get ripped off fairly easily.

The large connector on top looks like a type of monitor port. It just makes no sense why someone would fake this... if its true, Steve is gonna be pissed. In conclusion, I just cant tell anymore, I'll wait til Monday and buy one if it comes out.

.: Michael

my point about the iPod and iWalk not being compatible as part of a product lineup was more that it would be stupid of Apple to develop two devices so similar seperately and not combine the two, or at least use parts from one in the other- the iPod is nearly a PDA in form as it is. That just makes no financial sense. it looks like the spymac people refined their earlier crap 3d rendering after seeing the iPod, and made a half decent job...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MacD:
<strong>Someone over at Press 3 (formally MacOSX.com) posted the picture of the MWSF 2002 picture folks have been talking about. Looks different than what this "iwalk" looks like.

<a href="http://www.press3.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11426" target="_blank">http://www.press3.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11426</a></strong>[/QUOTE ]

So, you think the above picture from the 2002 badge is just fluff? I mean, why would Apple replease such a picture?

The <a href="http://www.interfacestudio.net/iwalk/" target="_blank">http://www.interfacestudio.net/iwalk/</a>

bootup.mov worked for me.

The Apple logo wheel does look weird. It jumps when the finger moves.

SdC

Five bucks says spymac has this off their site tomorrow with a message that says Apple legal forced them to.

Sure, it'll only be online for a few hours, but the hoax will be complete!

ps. anyone who actually thinks I'll pony up the five dollars prolly also thinks they'll use the money for their own shiny new iWalk.

Did you notice in the BOOTUP.MOV that his finger is "hidden" behind the button for a few frame until it starts to move. Might be compression or optical illusion... but still, that looks fake to me.

About the german, im a little rusty (its been a couple years). i cant quite make out the first word, but the last word is definatly "spitze" which in german means "sharp" or "stylish" so im assuming that whoever is commenting is stating that the iwalk is very stylish or very sharp.

edit
btw, what /is/ w/ the vga port and an ass ugly serial port on the top and bottom?

[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: ThunderPoit ]</p>

so what now?

Elaborate fake? partially fake? WTF IS IT?

I' m thinking its a prototype (much like the quicksilver pictures that surfaced before MWNY)... now... for some reason, these people found it necessary to fake an OS or just add some functionality to it... perhaps they got a non-working prototype?

That or these peole wasted time and money making a elaborate fake to mimic the iPod, thus making it more believable...

The truth is out there...

[quote]Originally posted by MacD:
<strong>[QUOTE]Originally posted by MacD:
[qb]Someone over at Press 3 (formally MacOSX.com) posted the picture of the MWSF 2002 picture folks have been talking about. Looks different than what this "iwalk" looks like.

<a href="http://www.press3.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11426" target="_blank">http://www.press3.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11426</a></strong>[/QUOTE ]

So, you think the above picture from the 2002 badge is just fluff? I mean, why would Apple replease such a picture?[/QB]<hr></blockquote>

I don't think Apple released the picture at all. it was a stock image from somewhere and got slapped in with a bunch of other stuff. Kinda like the footage MS had of old beige macs running XP.

[quote]Originally posted by DaveGee:
<strong>Oh my gosh you guys are the same kids who said the Cube was a fake! Note to self... All the self proclaimed photoshop debunkers come out at night...

Look at he following:






And debunk away...

Dave</strong><hr></blockquote>

Okay, why is that screen so damn bright and readable even under shadows despite the fact that there is clearly no backlight? It looks suspiciously like a high quality printer paper jammed behind a sheet of clear plastic.

For anybody that can't get the bootup.mov:
go to my website
<a href="http://151.202.177.225:8888/iwalk/" target="_blank">http://151.202.177.225:8888/iwalk/bootup.mov</a>
login/password
iwalk/4891

it should work...i don't have too much speed so it's only 5 at a time

[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: ThinkDifferent1984 ]</p>