Poland seeks extradition of Jewish war criminal

This is interesting - and before anyone gets their knickers in a twist (you know who you are), let's establish this as a philosophical discussion rather than a partisan one.

The issue: Poland is seeking the extradition of 86 year-old Solomon Morel who is currently hiding in Tel Aviv, for crimes against humanity - specifically the systematic torture of thousands and resulting death of hundreds of Germans in a post-war detention camp.

Full article from (right-wing) Daily Telegraph.

The crimes allegedly occurred In November 1945 during the Soviet occupation of Poland in the so-called "de-Nazification" camps, where up to 80,000 ethnic Germans are believed to have died as a result of torture, starvation and typhus.

According to the article:


The point: This is not a 'Jewish' thread. My point here is that it will be interesting to see what Israel will do and I am observing this with an open mind.

They routinely arrest Nazis with equivalent criminal pasts and of similar ages - and rightly so. Hopefully they will hand over this psychopath despite his age and nationality and all will be well.

If not - then we have a problem. The fact is that criminals should be divided from the non-criminals specifically AND ONLY on the basis of the crime.

That is - dog used to attack at Soviet camp or dog used to attack at Abu Ghraib:

Same thing.

Torture and murder at Auschwitz, De-Nazification camp or Abu Ghraib:

Same thing.

There are no mitigating circumstances:

Not race.
Not religion.
Not 'because the enemy is barbaric'.
Not 'because they do it to us'.
Not pre-emptive.
Not for 'information'.

Nothing. No justification. Period.

As humans, we need to buy-out of the BS of us and them if we are going to survive. Especially now. We need to give up our 'patriotism' and transfer our loyalties to humanity. The criminals are those that do these things, support these things and encourage these things - whoever they are: some idiot on a message board, a Nazi or a head of state - or any combo of all three.

Time to take a stand for civilization.

Of course I wouldn't - the discussion would never arise. Duh.

And I can't 'continue' with a philosophical discussion - it hasn't started yet. You're the only one who's replied....

Precisely. I say lock him up - WITH a trial which presents the evidence. Don't want to sink to barbarism along with the mainstream.....

Well, that's the philosophical issue. I suppose I agree up to a point.

I think you have something there actually as you put it like that - I was thinking of it in terms of Israel doing this sort of thing all the time to aging Nazis so the same thing should apply in contrary cases but actually you have shown me the flaw in my thinking here - you're right: no-one should be hounded at that age.

We should let it lie - I'm officially changing my position in this thread. Forgiveness is the way to go in this case.

Absolutely. I was totally wrong.

Let's find some fundies to take it out on....

Are you Jewish Scott ?

I vote not Jewish - it fits with the bizarro, upside-down black is white, war is peace, slavery is freedom meme that you refer to in lieu of active mentation.

A non-Jewish poster who knows absolutely nothing about the Middle East or recent history is obsessed with all things Israel to the point of it being an idee fixe.

While increasing numbers of people who see Israel for what it actually is and oppose its racist Zionist agenda are actually Jewish !



You couldn't make it up ! Only they did

We don't. You do.

We just want to know why you cannot post in any thread whatsoever without mentioning Israel and the Jews.

Dancing or otherwise.

If you said yes, then I would understand your obsession - in fact it would cease to be an obsession and rather be a legitimate concern. As such I would respect it - and by extension respect you.

If you said no, then I would feel justified in my existing lack of respect. After all an obsession which is not backed up by any realistic rationale - and such is the degree of your fixation that you being Jewish is the only possible mitigating factor (charitably leaving aside the other distinct possibility that you are merely an Islamophobic racist - a possibility that I regard as an extremely likely one, although of course you do not have the courage to stand by that belief imo) - is not by any token worthy of respect.

So in a way I am not asking whether you are Jewish I am rather saying "I have completely written you off as a total non-entity unworthy of the smallest scintilla of consideration but I kind of feel bad about this as there is a vague and remote possibility that I'm wrong".

Kind of giving you the benefit of the doubt in a way.