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News Flash: Jobs kills real-time feed of Macworld keynote speech?

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For the first time in several years, Apple Computer may not provide a live feed of its opening keynote presentation at the Macworld Expo in San Francisco.

Apple chief executive Steve Jobs, reportedly miffed over a series new product leaks, has abruptly pulled the plug on the realtime webcast and satellite broadcast of his Macworld Expo keynote, according to an Apple memo forwarded to the MacInTouch website.

The message reads, in part, "Apple will not be making satellite coordinates available. Although the keynote WILL be available on our web site - it will NOT be available until sometime AFTER the keynote is over. They do NOT have a time determined, so it may not be immediately after the keynote is over. "

For the past several years, Apple has provided its loyal fans and customers with a webcast video stream of Jobs' Macworld keynote speeches. The company has also broadcasted the event at its retail stores through satellite.

Inquires at several Apple retail stores confirm that, sadly, no broadcast is scheduled to take place next Tuesday; leaving all those who are unable to attend the expo -- as well as the millions of folks who do not read Apple rumor sites -- on the edge of their seats for at least a couple hours longer.
post #2 of 75
That's a shame.

I had been hoping to watch it as soon as I could, being ready to switch for a few months now and wanting to see what happens. Oh well, hopefully they'll have it out a few hours afterwards, because I probably wouldn't have been able to see it live anyways.

Now if it's a couple of days...
post #3 of 75
AAAHHHH! They are punishing us!

Good thing I'm working tomorrow or else I will be dying in front of the computer waiting on apple's site
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post #4 of 75
Lots of past Apple Events have been available only afterward. I hadn't realized that none of those were in San Francisco, but regardless, that has been the trend. Guess I'll have to settle for (hopefully) text updates!
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AAAHHHH! They are punishing us!

Good thing I'm working tomorrow or else I will be dying in front of the computer waiting on apple's site

No, just do what most people do. Go to MacNN or MacIntouch or MacMinute or one of any other sites as they recap as things go on. Big flippin' deal.

And was last year's webcast? I didn't think it was.
post #6 of 75
Where's the evidence that Jobs did this because he was pissed about the leaks? That's not in the Macintouch memo.
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Jobs shouldn't be pissed about rumor sites, it keeps interest in his products thriving.
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post #8 of 75
I think I remember one keynote where it was thought that a broadcast wouldn't be available, but about a day or so before, it changed.

They really ought to broadcast it live on some cable network, it would certainly draw as much audience as an infomercial.
post #9 of 75
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Originally posted by Louzer

And was last year's webcast? I didn't think it was.

Yes, last years was webcast.

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No, just do what most people do. Go to MacNN or MacIntouch or MacMinute or one of any other sites as they recap as things go on. Big flippin' deal.

Except 90% of the time those sites crash during a big event. They have never had a MacWorld SF keynote without QT, and thats Apple's biggest event. If they couldn't handle it before, they aren't going to be able to handle the bandwidth this go around.

At least the stream was reliable if you got on early and had a good connection.
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Originally posted by BRussell
Where's the evidence that Jobs did this because he was pissed about the leaks? That's not in the Macintouch memo.

My thought exactly. It's being reported all over the Mac Web that Jobs shut down the webcast to spite rumor-following Mac users But nowhere does MacInTouch give any reason to think any such thing.

Of course Steve Jobs was involved in the decision to broadcast his own Keynote or not. But we know NOTHING of the reasons--business, technical (recent buzz = servers swamped?)... or spite
post #11 of 75
well, i hope think secret is enjoying this. they had it coming.
post #12 of 75
Please, not this time! This tuesday would've been the first time ever that I had the time and bandwidth to watch the QT Stream via a decent (1Mbps) connection...

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post #13 of 75
It's so seldom that Mac users get to see Steve Jobs that a Quicktime stream is a rather important event. I had told several PC users about it - users that were starting to get interested in the Mac.

In terms of direct business I doubt that there are many people who watch a new product being released and put in an order as soon as the Apple Store is back up, but the excitement generated seeing Steve J live does get a lot fo people motivated to buy (or preach about) a Mac.

Still time for him to change his mind.

One reason for no live performance, by the way, is the attention old Billy Gates is getting from Windows crashing multiple times during the CES show & tell . . .
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post #14 of 75
Wah... Wah... Boo-Hoo-Stevie-Poo

Steve is a control freak. Believe me, I'm one too. As much as they try, Apple will NEVER prevent leaks. Seeking justice will only do more harm than good. What the F*** are they trying to prove, anyway? It's the information age. NOTHING is a SECRET.

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post #15 of 75
Oh great, if this is true, then this sucks. I rescheduled my dentist appointment to watch this (don't know what I was thinking when I scheduled it, I must not have known when it was at that point)! I always love watching the Keynotes live because I am learning about this at the same time as everyone else and there is excitement in the air. It sucks avoiding the Apple front page, rumor sites, and pretty much every other site while waiting for the delayed stream to come online.

And no, no matter what you say, viewing a live text report is not anywhere the same as watching the Steve over QT (or I'd imagine an Apple Store, never actually made it to one for a Keynote). That is another thing! Two years ago we didn't have an Apple Store with a theatre, last year I was snowed in, and this year he is canceling it! Super lame.

Come on Steve, don't disappoint your legions. We provide tons of free press on Keynote day.

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post #16 of 75
Looks like I'll just have to spend next Tuesday hitting the refresh button on the apple store page from 10am onwards until the store comes back up then.
post #17 of 75
<Steve> "You guys suck so i'm taking my ball and leaving!"

Pretty poor treatment of loyal MacFans I think.
Such an event should be broadcast live on cable and satellite tech TV... good advertising for the platform!
post #18 of 75
Yeah, come on. The least they could do is put it on public access. Everyone should be fortunate enough to see the almighty Steve speak.
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post #19 of 75
I guess Steve figures that it's his party: he can cry if he wants to. Well I think he should grow up. Treat his customers like he likes them for a change.

What a tragically brilliant yet messed-up CEO he is.

The MWSF keynote broadcast to my beloved Pasadena Apple Store is a big annual highlight for me. I'm deeply disappointed by this news. I guess it's just one more example of the "members only" elitist B.S. that proves what a corporate sellout the world is. \
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Originally posted by Awimoway
I guess Steve figures that it's his party: he can cry if he wants to. Well I think he should grow up. Treat his customers like he likes them for a change.

What a tragically brilliant yet messed-up CEO he is.

The MWSF keynote broadcast to my beloved Pasadena Apple Store is a big annual highlight for me. I'm deeply disappointed by this news. I guess it's just one more example of the "members only" elitist B.S. that proves what a corporate sellout the world is. \

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Originally posted by nagromme

My thought exactly. It's being reported all over the Mac Web that Jobs shut down the webcast to spite rumor-following Mac users But nowhere does MacInTouch give any reason to think any such thing.

This is cyberjournalism. They don't need facts.

How exactly does one pull a broadcast that was never announced in the first place? Rumor sites love to embellish stories posted by other sites to make it look like they have more information. I'm sure that every bit of hardware that doesn't show up will now be the result of a hissy fit rather than something logical like say, product availability.

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Originally posted by Awimoway

I guess Steve figures that it's his party: he can cry if he wants to. Well I think he should grow up. Treat his customers like he likes them for a change.

What a tragically brilliant yet messed-up CEO he is.

The MWSF keynote broadcast to my beloved Pasadena Apple Store is a big annual highlight for me. I'm deeply disappointed by this news. I guess it's just one more example of the "members only" elitist B.S. that proves what a corporate sellout the world is. \

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post #23 of 75
I'm with Apple on this one. First, why spend money on media streams when product details have already been released to the public in some form or the other. If you are fan enough to look at the stream you are fan enough to look at rumor sites, plus cNet and the likes seem to be picking up rumor stories more and more. If not to report directly, to report the rumor sites have reported it.

Second, it seems like analyst are taking these "rumors" to heart and setting the Apple's stock price to match. So Apple is backed into a corner with the product announcement; if they hold back a product announcement they are punished.

Don't get me wrong, my job loses hours of work from me on expo days. I just sit in front of my computer and wait for the streams. Then I surf the web after checking out the comments. I was looking forward to this one and I'll defiantly miss the wow factor of the stream, but I'm with Apple/Steve on this one.
post #24 of 75
Could not care less. Undergoing (minor) surgery at time of keynote. \
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post #25 of 75
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Originally posted by 1984
This is cyberjournalism. They don't need facts.

How exactly does one pull a broadcast that was never announced in the first place? Rumor sites love to embellish stories posted by other sites to make it look like they have more information. I'm sure that every bit of hardware that doesn't show up will now be the result of a hissy fit rather than something logical like say, product availability.

Hear, hear.

Grow up, people -- and remember, nothing is fact until you hear it from Apple -- by whatever means they feel appropriate -- it is their show, right?
post #26 of 75
WTF?

This is exactly the reason Steve Jobs dislikes rumor sites... No where does it mention, #1 that the webcast was "killed", #2 That it was in fact "killed" because of the recent product leaks.

Some of you need to pull your head out of your a$$ before your start flaming Steve Jobs and Apple and take in to account that the above accusations are not facts.

There have been several Keynotes that were delayed for what ever reason. THERE will be a Quicktime stream eventually, just not a live stream. Get over it!

Go to MacNN or Mac Central ... They usually post information as the event is happening.
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Jobs shouldn't be pissed about rumor sites, it keeps interest in his products thriving.

Exactly! Why should he even care about the various rumor sites. The only way the rumors are confirmed is if Apple takes some action against the site. If Apple ignored these sites, the rumors would remain just that.
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post #28 of 75
Here's the dumbest theory yet:

It's not being broadcast because there are TOO MANY announcements.

I remember seeing keynotes where Steve discussed hardware, OS, QuickTime, iApps, iPods, iTMS, third-party software and more. I was boggled, overwhelmed; I couldn't process it all. It was like drinking from a fire hose.

When they announce all that the rumor sites report plus HD-based camcorders plus FireWire 1600 plus their purchase of TiVo plus iPhoto 5 allowing you to create web sites where the VIEWERS can order prints directly and so on, normal human brains will explode. Even attendees will be stunned.

That's my prediction.
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Here's the dumbest theory yet:

It's not being broadcast because there are TOO MANY announcements.

I remember seeing keynotes where Steve discussed hardware, OS, QuickTime, iApps, iPods, iTMS, third-party software and more. I was boggled, overwhelmed; I couldn't process it all. It was like drinking from a fire hose.

When they announce all that the rumor sites report plus HD-based camcorders plus FireWire 1600 plus their purchase of TiVo plus iPhoto 5 allowing you to create web sites where the VIEWERS can order prints directly and so on, normal human brains will explode. Even attendees will be stunned.

That's my prediction.

Well, you could also go the other way, and that Apple's not broadcasting it because there WON'T be much to announce, and why waste the bandwidth to show updated Powerbooks, some more update on Tiger, and then a GarageBand 2.0 (unless 2.0 includes groupies in the box, its not going to wow anyone).

Apple webcasts that, and then everyone will be saying "I can't believe Apple thought THAT was worth webcasting and satellite time! I mean, WTF! I wasted two hours for all those hot products I heard about, and Apple goes off and doesn't announce them, out of spite! Well, I'm going to hold off buying another Mac until that headless iMac comes out!"

Yeah, rumors can't hurt apple.
post #30 of 75
I just think they can't push enough bits to make the webcast work well. With all the interest in this, if they set a record in the number of people who would have watched this live, the quality of the web streaming would have sucked. That doesn't explain why they're not showing it in stores though...
post #31 of 75
won't this direct MORE people to rumor sites who have reporters in attendance at the keynote? perhaps he's hoping to slashdot them to death?

who knows... i won't be able to afford anything as soon as it comes out anyway. plus, steve's RDF is weakening on me over the years.
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post #32 of 75
I don't believe it. There are too many people that use the live stream for them not to do it. All the Apple Centers (not stores) around the country will have local press in on that day to watch the Keynote. Then, there's the Apple Stores, the amount of money that each of these Keynotes bring in has been alluded to in the past. It's gotta be good when you get 100-200 Mac crazed fans in all of your stores all in the same day as you announce new products. They buy stuff, left and right. And now, one "Rumors" site picks up a bogus story that the satellite feed is canceled and everyone, for some reason, believes it? Come on. It's not gonna happen. I'll be in my local Apple Store on Tuesday, watching the Keynote.

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Jobs shouldn't be pissed about rumor sites, it keeps interest in his products thriving.

Well, rumor sites always promise more than what Apple delivers, so people inevitably are left disappointed at these announcements. Rumors build excitement up to the keynote and usually guarantee disappointment at them.

How many times have we seen either complete non-reaction to a big announcement at one of these things or, in fact, a strong sense of disappointment in the crowd and in the coommunity after the real announcements are made? The pricing is always off in the rumors, and people get pissed off when Apple's real pricing doesn't match the OMFG new iMac/iPod/'book for $100!!!1!! hype going into the keynote. You can see it in almost every major announcement broadcast in the last few years, and it surely happens in the Apple Store crowds.

I think Apple just doesn't want to broadcast yet another keynote where the crowd is on the verge of booing once the prices are announced, and people walking out of Apple Stores in a bad mood, projecting a poor image of the place. Probably once they do broadcast it afterwards, they'll edit down those long, awkward silences of crestfallen people who made an emotional investment in speculation.
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I'm with Apple on this one. First, why spend money on media streams when product details have already been released to the public in some form or the other...

That's pretty ridiculous, dude. Live streams weren't created for the rumor hounds (like me.) They were created for Everyman, regular people (90% of whom are pretty much out of the loop as far as rumors). A live QT stream in all their retail stores should be part and parcel of every Apple announcement - it brings droves of people into the stores, and they stay for hours afterwards, milling around, buying stuff.

I think it's unwise (financially speaking) to not broadcast a Steve-note. I won't speculate on whether or not it was pulled, or why, but if it ain't happening, someone (Steve?) has made a very poor decision.

(And no, it wouldn't have had anything to do with Gates' blue screen of death fiasco.)
post #35 of 75
I think they're worried about a Janet Jackson-like incident. Phil Schiller is, apparently, a bit of an exhibitionist.
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I think they're worried about a Janet Jackson-like incident. Phil Schiller is, apparently, a bit of an exhibitionist.

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Well, rumor sites always promise more than what Apple delivers, so people inevitably are left disappointed at these announcements.

Yeah I always wonder about that. On the one hand they breed disappointment, but on the other hand they build interest. I think it may actually be good for normal people (i.e., people who don't hang out in places like this ), in the sense that the press starts talking about it, and there's a buzz, and they haven't studied the rumored specs enough to know that they "should" be disappointed. There's no question that it's bad for the likes of us, though.
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I think they're worried about a Janet Jackson-like incident. Phil Schiller is, apparently, a bit of an exhibitionist.

You mean you think they're worried something like this could happen?

post #39 of 75
That borg is a bit harsh. Blame the rumor sites for bringing Steve to make this decision. Like the guy said ages ago, Apple keeps shit secret because they are always losing out on the major market share of many things. They are constantly under attack from the sharks in the corporate world like M$ who prowl and wait for Apple to reveal their offering so M$ can go steal their idea's and 'PROFIT' far more from them than Apple ever does then try to cut Apple out of key markets. They are trying it now with the iPod, they copy Spotlight and tell us they had it first, Longhorn is way over dues cos they keep waiting for Apple to reveal its offering so they have more time to copy an get idea's.

Personally im sick of it, Apple deserves more and so does its user base. To be privileged enough to use Mac OS X and Apple hardware, i find it a crying shame 95% of the market are using M$ rubbish, the world deserves better than the crap M$ dishes out to us.

What ever Apple does, M$ will sure to be there after the fact to try to take everything away from them for their own financial gain.

I believe Steve when he said leaking their secret products hurts them financially. The excitement is fun an all but the rumors are stealing from the hand that feeds them.

U sign an NDA, if u go open ya big mouth then u deserve anything the lawyers throw at u.
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post #40 of 75
Thanks for the Borg laugh that was great, Steve reminds me of a Big Billionaire Baby Boo Hooing over what amounts to nothing. News leaking a week before means squat.This is the Digital age remember.
This is still going to be a bare bones watered down handicapped machine thats made out of obsolete old parts from years ago in a new box and cheap price. Move on Jobs! where the heck is the 3.0 G5 or G6 thats what i want to know. Where the heck is a consumer tower with a real videocard? Why not any Mac products in stores other then my Big EGO Apple Stores.


Its like you spoiled my surprise Think Secret Boo Hoo I dont want to play with you anymore.....wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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