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During a presentation Thursday at the Consumer Electronics Show, a Motorola executive previewed the upcoming mobile phone that the company is jointly developing with Apple Computer.

The iTunes-compatible phone in many ways mimics the iPod, according to a first-hand PC Magazine report.

"It syncs with a computer and the iTunes Music Store like an iPod does, and incorporates the iPod interface for navigating and playing digital music," said Ron Garriques, a Motorola executive vice president.

Garriques also revealed that the phone is the first of many Motorola devices that will support iTunes this year. However, he did not provide product specs or say when the phone would be available.

Last month, Eddy Cue, Apple's vice president of applications, said the company was 'definitely on schedule' to make a mobile phone related announcement within the first half of 2005.

"What we've talked about is a something that is valuable for the mass market," Cue said. "It has to be a phone in the middle-tier of the market, not a $500-tier phone. It has to be very seamless to use. And we're very happy with the results."

No images of the phone have yet to surface in a public forum, but prototype units have reportedly been spotted with bluetooth streaming capabilities and 1GB of flash memory-based storage.

Like the iPod, the iTunes-compatible phone will play tracks purchased from Apple's iTunes music download service.

Update: First Photos Surface?A purported photo of the Moto iTunes phone, posted to the neowin.net forums.

Update: According to sources, the phone shown above and elsewhere on the internet is not the rumored Apple-Motorola cell phone, but rather a development phone used for demonstrating the embedded version of iTunes that will be included with the Apple-Moto phone.
post #2 of 33
Dang, Motorola broke their NDA. Sue 'em!

Sounds interesting yet inevitable. I wonder how terrible the battery life will be on these things.
post #3 of 33
In truth, I just don't get it. Isn't my iPod for listening to music while I am out and about? What is the purpose of having an iTunes integrated phone? At the end of the day, I don't know that I would be interested in a device that is basically a cell phone that can sync with iTunes. I might be more interested in an iPod that can make phone calls. Know what I mean? Anyone have any thoughts?
post #4 of 33
Well I guess this follows the old Apple-way-of-doing-things:
- When technology lets it become what it should have been from the start.

Just like the iPod Photo would be a killer
app if it could store photos not having to
go through a computer (software update?),
the Moto-Apple phone will be a killer when
3G mobile networks lets you buy the songs
when you are mobile...

This is possible in Europe, but the phone
will probably not get to Europe in about
a year anyway (like the iPod/iTMS didn't).

But Apple doesn't wait for that to happen...
I think that the strategy is to make
it a killer in its third version or something
(and that's when we will see an Apple branded phone).
When technology lets it become what it should have been
from the start.
post #5 of 33
"Well I guess this follows the old Apple-way-of-doing-things:
- When technology lets it become what it should have been from the start"

Sometimes technology needs to mature. If you try to create something with "everything now" it usually ends up like something created by Microsoft - a big messy piece of crap that has all the bells and whistles and very user unfriendly.

Taking baby steps is the best way to determine what should come next. Let the market decide which direction to go rather than trying to force everyone to go a certain way.

Apple did the same thing with the iPod ... at first it was just an MP3 player... then later as many people requested and they figured out an elegant way to accomplish it, they added the ability to synch with certain types of data on your computer... then later, added a color screen to display photos... etc... next, possibly some form of wireless technology; cellular, satellite, or WiFi.

Apple has become pretty good about knowing the right time to enter a market and what that market really wants/needs.
post #6 of 33
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Originally posted by Kishan
In truth, I just don't get it. Isn't my iPod for listening to music while I am out and about? What is the purpose of having an iTunes integrated phone? At the end of the day, I don't know that I would be interested in a device that is basically a cell phone that can sync with iTunes. I might be more interested in an iPod that can make phone calls. Know what I mean? Anyone have any thoughts?

Are you kidding, then you're just living in your "All anyone needs is an iPod, nothing else!" world. This would be great! Right now, I want to go out for a walk, I start packing up my crap, which includes iPod and cell phone (of course, with the iPod on, and crappy cell phone vibrate mode, I never hear the phone ring). Just more stuff weighing you down, esp. if you're wearing shorts and a t-shirt ("aaaiiiiggghhh! LouZer's wearing shorts again! Run for your lives!"). And esp. if you know what you want to listen to (for me, its either audiobooks or radio broadcasts), then this would work out well.

You know, just take the argument for a flash-based player (size, weight), and that's what you got here.
post #7 of 33
I suppose this blows the hell out of the iTunes lawsuit that numb nut in Northern California filed this week. Now he does indeed have a choice.
post #8 of 33
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Originally posted by Louzer
Are you kidding, then you're just living in your "All anyone needs is an iPod, nothing else!" world. This would be great! Right now, I want to go out for a walk, I start packing up my crap, which includes iPod and cell phone (of course, with the iPod on, and crappy cell phone vibrate mode, I never hear the phone ring). Just more stuff weighing you down, esp. if you're wearing shorts and a t-shirt ("aaaiiiiggghhh! LouZer's wearing shorts again! Run for your lives!"). And esp. if you know what you want to listen to (for me, its either audiobooks or radio broadcasts), then this would work out well.

You know, just take the argument for a flash-based player (size, weight), and that's what you got here.

Your point is well taken. It would be nice to have one device that can handle all the mobile electronics you might need (phone, music, pda). The point that I was getting at was that I would rather see them add phone capability to an iPod rather than incorporate iPod-like features into a cell phone form factor. Without the click-wheel, I just don't see the interface being efficient even if the memory is limited to 1GB. Thats still a lot of songs to get through with only up and down arrows!
post #9 of 33
I don't usually post on these boards but I read AppleInsider ever day and I've got a question: How is this announcement going to effect the upcoming Flash-based iPod? Obviously this cell-phone device would directly compete with the similarly speced Flash-based iPods. Motorola has been known for keeping their cell-phone prices low (though not Nokia low) ... if Apple prices the iPod at $150 and the phone is $250 (though most carriers will give you $200 off of most Motorola phones) so if you can get a new cell phone for $50 and all the features of the Flash-based iPod then why would you even think of buying it? I mean there is size but really how big is this phone going to be ... my V400 fits more easily in my pocket than my iPod.
post #10 of 33
Jebus, Murray, and Jobeth...when will the darn cellphone manufacturers realize I don't want a darn phone with a darn camera, a darn music player, a darn gameboy, or a darn web browser? I want four darn signal bars, at every darn time and in every darn location.

Darn it.
post #11 of 33
so ... is this a fake?

post #12 of 33
That, Gordon, is a Sony Ericsson phone. So it's fake.
post #13 of 33
It is a very well done fake. The small text is perfect Applespeak. (did you notice that it states that the iPod has bluetooth built-in? The creation date of the image is a year and a half ago, though. but it would be cool.
post #14 of 33
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Originally posted by Gordon Werner


Two thumbs up for this fake phone,
two thumbs down for the one in the article.

Oh well, I guess I will keep my P800.
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post #15 of 33
I bet the itunes interface stands out like a sore thumb in amongst Motorola's absolutely terrible phone UI, unless they've put it on their Symbian UIQ based phones.

If they have, I'll have iTunes for my Sony Ericsson p910i too please. ;-)

Incidentally, my p910i on Orange in the UK already has a music player and download service. These services have been around for quite a while in Europe. If Apple/Motorola concentrate on the USA again like they did iTunes on the Mac for this then they will quite possibly miss the boat. It's £1.50 a track though so about twice the cost of downloading from iTunes and they are lower quality and you can't play them on your mac or pc.

http://www.orange.co.uk/multimedia/orange_world.html
post #16 of 33
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Originally posted by jimhill
I want four darn signal bars, at every darn time and in every darn location.

Give me that, with a good calendar and address book, with good iSync via Bluetooth, and I'm a buyer.
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post #17 of 33
I agree. If I can also dump my palm, and have phone, tunes, and contacts all in one place,it's mine. My wife won't let me have an iPod, but a new phone...
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post #18 of 33
since i expect it to have a color screen i wonder if it will allow you to store photos????
post #19 of 33
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Originally posted by e1618978
Two thumbs up for this fake phone,
two thumbs down for the one in the article.

Oh well, I guess I will keep my P800.

Hear, Hear...

Motorola iPhone = RUBBISH

Sweet iPhone = SonyEricsson T630 + iPod Mini

Seriously, I HATE Moto phones. Their buttons hurt my fingers. SE buttons gently tickle them.

I HATE Nokia phones. Their designs are over the top and just tacky. SE designs are smooth, slick, and sensous, like the newer Apple products.

Whoa... I think I got up on the wrong side of bed, but really f**k this iPhone b******t

Thank goodness the Moto-Apple deal is Moto probably will struggle on with its rubbish phones and Apple will reap the rewards of its nascent iTunes-for-Mobile store/devices initiative....

Come on SonyEricsson, get with the program!! You were destined to be with Apple much longer and in a much closer way! Listen to the consumers!
post #20 of 33
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Originally posted by FormerLurker
Give me that, with a good calendar and address book, with good iSync via Bluetooth, and I'm a buyer.

Speak to someone with a SonyEricsson T630, better yet, watch it in action especially on Bluetooth sync with Mac OS 10.3+

Some other posters here will be able to comment on how even more awesome the SonyEricsson K- and P- series are.

I have gone through at least 5 phones in the past 3 years. My T630, past 6 months, SSSSWEEEETTTTT mmmmmmm .... finally a phone worthy to get its bluetooth paws all over my lovely iBook ... I wouldn't let a Nokia or Moto piece of crap within ten feet of my iBook.
post #21 of 33
While I have engaged in quite a bit of Motorola-bashing, here's an article to ponder:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1ef70bd7ac&e=3

I think with this new dude in charge, looks like things like the Razr and iPhone will help it get back on its feet. Maybe some iTunes halo effect onto Motorola.

I admit I've always liked their ad campaigns though, BangingMoto and FunMoto and all that stuff \
post #22 of 33
The phone in the picture exists. However it has been around for awhile in the UK and AU, and it's simply a motorola mp3 player phone. It is a pretty cool phone though, I thought about buying one before I got my t630.
Here's a link to the moto page for that phone
http://direct.motorola.com/experienc...roductid=29212

It's called the E398 - Here's a photo...



I do believe that they could have been simply showing the iTunes interface using this phone, it seems like it would be the most appropriate to develop it on... mp3 capability and whatnot.
post #23 of 33
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Originally posted by Gordon Werner
so ... is this a fake?


There is a UK magazine called iCreate that is dedicated to Apple hardware and software that features a page each issue with an "if only Apple made this" angle. The image shown looks to me like one of these pictures. What you can't see in the image is the small print running down the side of the page that states that this is not real but just on somebody's wish list.
post #24 of 33
They are running out of time if they are going to release this iTunes phone during the "first half of 2005". I'm ready to get a phone and I wante to see this phone before I settle on something else (and probably regret it once this phone comes out).

Has there been any word on what network the phone would use?
post #25 of 33
Please... Im mean if that's a genuine apple poster.
Firstly the design is old apple branding. The poster would be black kids
secondly the paper reflecting in the light is A3 epson cheap glossy paper from an epson 2100 printer or alike. Offset printing doesn't do this. BTW apple would print larger posters.

No itunes phone with sony ever please. Sony suck.
post #26 of 33
Well fuck that shit. Everybody just go out and get the K750i and be done with it.
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post #27 of 33
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Originally posted by Celco
Please... Im mean if that's a genuine apple poster.
Firstly the design is old apple branding. The poster would be black kids
secondly the paper reflecting in the light is A3 epson cheap glossy paper from an epson 2100 printer or alike. Offset printing doesn't do this. BTW apple would print larger posters.

No itunes phone with sony ever please. Sony suck.

The biggest giveaway for me was this line:

"Say hello to the iPhone"

Apple don't refer to their products as the iBook. the iMac, etc. just iBook and iMac, so a genuine Apple ad would read:

"Say hello to iPhone"
post #28 of 33
tptmuso was right. It's from a magazine. They do something like that every month as a kind of 'What if...' piece in the back of the magazine.

Move along now, nothing to see here...
post #29 of 33
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Originally posted by aegisdesign
tptmuso was right. It's from a magazine. They do something like that every month as a kind of 'What if...' piece in the back of the magazine.

Move along now, nothing to see here...

Not to mention the fact that it has already been discussed here a zillion times before.

Stop digging up old threads!!
post #30 of 33
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Originally posted by Jambo
Not to mention the fact that it has already been discussed here a zillion times before.

Stop digging up old threads!!

It may have been discussed (I'm sure it's a conservative estimate) "a zillion times", but it is still relevant as the date of it's supposed release is drawing very close. They had said during the "first half" of 2005 the phone would be launched and available immediately. I don't know if any carrier has signed up or the odd rumors of Apple starting their own cell phone network are true.

Also, it is possible with the rumors of iTunes 4.9 coming out shortly, that the new software will have functionality built in for the phone(s).

If you don't like the thread... than just don't respond. But if you have insight, I'd be glad to read it.
post #31 of 33
That page was an april 1 joke.
post #32 of 33
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Originally posted by TednDi
That page was an april 1 joke.

No, it wasn't. iCreate do it every issue.
post #33 of 33
I'll confirm 100% that this is the back page "What if Apple made" column from issue one of the UK magazine iCreate.

I'm so damn certain, because not only do I have a copy archived away nice and safe, but also because I'm the guy that mocked it up, designed the page and wrote the copy. The phone is a Photoshopped T610, with an iPod scroll wheel and the Page was deliberately designed in the older Apple Style; I wanted to make people look twice, but there was always a fine line to consider.

I used a Sony Ericsson because at the time they and Apple were suspiciously friendly; I'm 90% that something was going on, but got Steve'd.

Anyho, it always makes me giggle but then feel a little guilty to see it, and some of the others we did, pop up on rumor boards. We only did them cos we wanted the stuff so bad - they tended to be begging letters to Steve more than anything else!

MCBear


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Originally posted by Celco
Please... Im mean if that's a genuine apple poster.
Firstly the design is old apple branding. The poster would be black kids
secondly the paper reflecting in the light is A3 epson cheap glossy paper from an epson 2100 printer or alike. Offset printing doesn't do this. BTW apple would print larger posters.

No itunes phone with sony ever please. Sony suck.
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