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Who thinks this thing is fake?
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IMHO this thing is fake. The interface is way too Newton like and there appears to be no color on the LCD. The movie is convieniantly short and not very telling. Why demo a secret Apple product for 5 seconds?
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Agreed.

For one thing, the clock's not in sync. It says 10:52 in the title bar area and 10:51 in the Day/Date area.
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The big Apple logo protrudes too much onto the screen.
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The video is strange. Why not pick up the device and show it on all sides? Why does it seem locked down to the "wood" desktop?

This seems almost too slick and well lit to be "covert" video. It has a professional production feel... almost as if it's an Apple demo video.
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post #7 of 88
Fake.

Apple is just not going to let leaks happen.

No way.

But, it was a decent effort though.
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picture of it on the web for 2 months.

Fake.....
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post #9 of 88
No it's fakey, fake, fake. The script was After Effected in. Towards the end, look really closely at the lines @ "Say hello..." It's a layer.
post #10 of 88
"Reintroducing the Newton 2100, completely un-updated except for a clumsy, awkward case".

God, I certainly *hope* that's a crude hoax.
post #11 of 88
yeah, yeah. the more you look at it, the more you realize it's too good looking to come out of a secret meeting. notice how the camera and the device are locked down... perfectly still. that was so they could animate the screen. speaking of the screen... what LCD looks like that?
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post #12 of 88
count me in: fake.
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Its a complete fake. If you watch the video at normal speed but in full screen mode, you can see the pda moves slightly as it is written on, but the text does not move with the pda. Totally FAKE. FAKE FAKE FAKE
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What bugs me the most is how many people will look at this and still say that it's real. I mean with the original iWalk, despite the overwhelming presence of 3d blunders, the iWalk still managed to make it onto several tv news reports and several professional online news articles.


It's like we need a site just to point out every blunder in there and shove it in their faces before they'll get it....
post #15 of 88
Fake. Is it just me or who gives a rip if they release this after the hype? That would not blow me away. PDAs have there place, but I don't want one and could care less if Apple put one out.
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post #16 of 88
Okay, have you seen the other videos and pictures posted? If that's a fake, it's the coolest and best fake ever. The bootup.mov, which shows the image on the screen rotating with a quick spin of the dial - amazing. And, it DOES have a color screen, with an OS X style interface. My guess: $799?
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No fake... Go see for yourself....!!!
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[quote]Originally posted by Reid:
<strong>Okay, have you seen the other videos and pictures posted? If that's a fake, it's the coolest and best fake ever. The bootup.mov, which shows the image on the screen rotating with a quick spin of the dial - amazing. And, it DOES have a color screen, with an OS X style interface. My guess: $799?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Reid, post the bootup vid, i cant get it to work!!
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post #19 of 88
a scrollwheel to turn the screen?

Come on...I don't think Apple would use the scroll just for that if that at all. Can't imagine writing on the screen, accidentally hitting the wheel...oops. Screen flipped to new orientation.

I would've loved some type of a scroll wheel or buttons on my 2100 to scroll through names at least. I can't see Apple making such a blunder with the wheel shown here.
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[quote]Originally posted by psantora:
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Reid, post the bootup vid, i cant get it to work!!
thanks
-Paul</strong><hr></blockquote>

Download both the bootup and the turnaround vids. When you open up bootup, choose the search option, and find turnaround. The movie will then play. Bizzarre.
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[quote]Originally posted by kcmac:
<strong>a scrollwheel to turn the screen?

Come on...I don't think Apple would use the scroll just for that if that at all. Can't imagine writing on the screen, accidentally hitting the wheel...oops. Screen flipped to new orientation.

I would've loved some type of a scroll wheel or buttons on my 2100 to scroll through names at least. I can't see Apple making such a blunder with the wheel shown here.</strong><hr></blockquote>

That's something Apple would definately not do. Incredibly horrible design and dubious usability and asthetics. A huge blunder.


Also, why the hell is the interface black and white while the startup screen is in full bleeding color? (at least whatever makes up brushed steel and a very nice blue apple). There doesn't seem to be any backlighting either yet the display is amazingly bright. Looks absolutely nothing like any lcd screen I have ever seen period. Yet another huge blunder.

Also the on button looks amazingly like a flimsy light switch or push button. The second you put this in your pocket, it would flip on, and drain the battery. Yet another huge blunder.

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No fake... Go see for yourself....!!!
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post #23 of 88
What an excellent way for two industrial design students to spread the newest Mac Quicktime Virus via a hoaxed iWalk video.

Did I say that out loud?

Fake! But I want one.

I would guess that the German office of CHiat / Day is behind this one. Nice post production, and a nice toy found in the trash can of Jonathan Ive's office.

But if it's real I'm buying one.

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post #24 of 88
I posted this in another thread, but what the heck:

This is an open letter to Apple Computer, its CEO Steve Jobs and its many wonderful employees:

Thanks for the biggest nostalgia-tinged hoot of the year!
This is the way it used to be in the old days multiplied by a million. Tease us in the morning and gig us at night, this is the best hoax I've seen in ages. It's April's Fool Day early, and well appreciated by some of us grizzled rumor-vets. I've got a great big grin on my face from the entire adventure....can't wait to see the real stuff next week.


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[quote]Originally posted by erbium:
<strong>No fake... Go see for yourself....!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

What do you keep blabbering about? We all went and saw it. Instead of 3D blunders we now have physical blunders, and instead of Photoshop lense glare, we now have Photoshop cut&paste.
post #26 of 88
You dopes. It's not a fake.
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It's also convenient that you never, ever see the tip of the stylus actually touching the screen, you just see the words/letters after they've been written onto the screen.
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God forbid that iWalk is a real product. Like the Cube, it has no market. Cool as the cube was, so would be an iWalk (or insert better name here). But nifty designs don't make up for a lack of good marketing.

What would be the iWalk's market?
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[quote]Originally posted by BuonRotto:
<strong>God forbid that iWalk is a real product. Like the Cube, it has no market. Cool as the cube was, so would be an iWalk (or insert better name here). But nifty designs don't make up for a lack of good marketing.

What would be the iWalk's market?</strong><hr></blockquote>

The Palm market is crashing, but Compaq's 'iPaq' is a very big hit.

Microsoft hasn't been investing years and years and millions upon millions in this area (PocketPC) for nothing.

That's the market Apple is aiming for -- and aiming dead center.

I don't know whether the SpyMac pictures are of an early prototype or close to the finished product. But it sure isn't a fake. Duh.

Well, we'll see, as Apple Legal swings into action in the morning.


[edit: you say iPad, I say iPaq... let's call the whole thing off.]

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[quote]Originally posted by BuonRotto:
<strong>God forbid that iWalk is a real product. Like the Cube, it has no market. Cool as the cube was, so would be an iWalk (or insert better name here). But nifty designs don't make up for a lack of good marketing.

What would be the iWalk's market?</strong><hr></blockquote>
It's probably a fake BUT they are up to something see <a href="http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06295372__" target="_blank">this patent</a>

In any case to answer your question, if it does prove to be real I am going to buy one so fast it'll make my bank manager spin. =)
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[quote]Originally posted by SirFlakey:
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It's probably a fake BUT they are up to something see <a href="http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06295372__" target="_blank">this patent</a>

In any case to answer your question, if it does prove to be real I am going to buy one so fast it'll make my bank manager spin. =)</strong><hr></blockquote>

That particular patent seems to be by employees of Palm, Inc. - not Apple.

Personally, I think the device shown is for real. I also think it is a prototype; Apple may release something like this soon, but I'm quite sure it look rather different.
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post #32 of 88
If iWalk is a fake it was done by our friends at SpyMac. Did you look at the picture that has the browser going to a test page at SpyMac just for the purpose of seeing if it worked.

Who else could have done that? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
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[quote]In any case to answer your question, if it does prove to be real I am going to buy one so fast it'll make my bank manager spin. =)<hr></blockquote>

You know it. , and what do you mean it has no market? It's the Apple branded PDA we have all been begging for. It looks soo cool to me. I'll be crying if Apple cant produce one, or something similar.
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OK, after looking @ my iPod for a little while, I realized something. There is NO WAY they could fit the 5gb drive into the "iWalk". They need room for a circut board, a batterty, the screen, and RAM. Add the hard drive and it is thicker (I would say MUCH thicker) then the iWalk seems to be. Also, the stylus goes right where the HD would be. So, either it is a fake, or it doesnt have the 5gb drive. Either way, it sucks...

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post #35 of 88
SpyMac contradicts themselves about the iWalk. The messages on the site want you to believe that they've been handed top-secret videos from an anonymous source:

[quote]<strong>
The SpyMac staff have finished verifying the authenticity of the iWalk video and have decided that the source of the footage is sufficiently unidentifiable.

We can clearly make out Firewire, audio-in and audio-out ports.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yet the camera shot shows the user loading up a spymac.com web site, written specifically:

[quote]<strong>
"to see, whether or the browser works."

<a href="http://www.spymac.com/test/Test.html" target="_blank">http://www.spymac.com/test/Test.html</a>
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Likewise, we would generally expect a top-secret Apple product to be built and tested in Cupertino, or in Asian production facilities.

Yet, on turnaround.mov German can clearly be heard ("Bitte", and something else.) Note that Spymac.com is on a German webhost:

[quote]<strong>
bill-c-titlet\t\tHerr
bill-c-firstnamet\tAndreas
bill-c-lastnamet\tMueller
bill-c-organizationt\tSchlund + Partner AG
bill-c-streett\t\tErbprinzenstr. 4-12
bill-c-pcodet\t\t76133
bill-c-cityt\t\tKarlsruhe
bill-c-ccodet\t\tDE
bill-c-phonet\t\t+49 721 91374 80
bill-c-faxt\t\t+49 721 91374 20
bill-c-emailt\t\tbilling@schlund.de
</strong><hr></blockquote>

So either iWalk is real, yet for some reason they're lying about their relationship to the source...

...or else iWalk is a fake, made by Spymac themselves.

Which explanation is more consistent?

P.S. I see onlooker made a similar point while I was writing this post....

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[quote]Originally posted by psantora:
<strong>OK, after looking @ my iPod for a little while, I realized something. There is NO WAY they could fit the 5gb drive into the "iWalk". They need room for a circut board, a batterty, the screen, and RAM. Add the hard drive and it is thicker (I would say MUCH thicker) then the iWalk seems to be. Also, the stylus goes right where the HD would be. So, either it is a fake, or it doesnt have the 5gb drive. Either way, it sucks...

-Paul</strong><hr></blockquote>

not true.
1.) the iPod drive is a type II PC card. very very small. could easily fit in there
2.) is it not possible the drive could be used as the RAM also?
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[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
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not true.
1.) the iPod drive is a type II PC card. very very small. could easily fit in there
2.) is it not possible the drive could be used as the RAM also?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Im not saying that the drive isn't small. It is VERY small. Im saying that with everything else that they have to fit in there (f/w controler, Audio I/O, IR, Battery, etc.) there won't be enough room for the HD.

No, the HD could not be used as the Ram, it is too slow.

-Paul

Edit:forgot to address your 2nd point

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[quote]Originally posted by brewsky:
<strong>Its a complete fake. If you watch the video at normal speed but in full screen mode, you can see the pda moves slightly as it is written on, but the text does not move with the pda. Totally FAKE. FAKE FAKE FAKE</strong><hr></blockquote>

Good call. I thought it might be real until you pointed this out. Look at the printed text while keeping an eye on the border of the device. The text clearly "wobbles" a bit in relation to the frame, and it's a dead giveaway.

Certainly a lot of effort put into it, though.

Still can't get the bootup one to work, FWIW.
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post #39 of 88
"SayHello" :

In between the leather case and the iWalk you can see a "ghost" pen which they have tried to hide... doh!



Bluring and obvious edits in between these two frames (a scroll wheel mouse is damned handy for this stuff).



The above mentioned "wobble" is also bloody obvious... (Mkae the movie full screen and watch the words "say hello" most obvious around 7 seconds through)

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This one proves to me, that this iWalk thing is a fake. In the "Bootup" movie, the hand moves the wheel, but the wheel stays where it is. But after some moments, the wheel snaps to the point where the finger is.

View it here in slow motion:
<a href="http://www.olivergruber.ch/stuff/iwalkfake.mov" target="_blank">www.olivergruber.ch/stuff/iwalkfake.mov</a>
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