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post #121 of 316
1/24/05 at 4:29pm
PowerBook UK Page updated:

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High-speed Architecture


Faster than ever, PowerBook G4 computers all feature PowerPC G4 processors that provide robust performance for complex multimedia or data intensive applications. The 15-inch and 17-inch models boast processor speeds of up to 1.5GHz, and the 12-inch model now offers speedier performance with its 1.33GHz processor and new 1.67MHz system bus.

1.67? isn't that the new processor speed - that makes the bus look even worse!!!
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post #122 of 316
1/24/05 at 4:32pm
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Originally posted by MacCrazy

it's the same chip so i doubt it, the new dual core apparently use 200MHZ - not a lot better. What does the FSB actually do?

These are the bus speeds for Freescale's mobile G4 processors:

The 7447 is 167 MHz
The 7448 is 200 MHz
The 8641 is 667 MHz

Current PowerBooks use the 7447 and it is rumored that the updated PowerBooks will use a 7447B variant at 167 MHz as well. The 7448 is most likely not ready yet though miracle or miracles it could be ahead of schedule. Doubtful though.

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post #123 of 316
1/24/05 at 4:37pm
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Originally posted by 1984
These are the bus speeds for Freescale's mobile G4 processors:

The 7447 is 167 MHz
The 7448 is 200 MHz
The 8641 is 667 MHz

Current PowerBooks use the 7447 and it is rumored that the updated PowerBooks will use a 7447B variant at 167 MHz as well. The 7448 is most likely not ready yet though miracle or miracles it could be ahead of schedule. Doubtful though.

667 MHz now that's a proper bus!
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post #124 of 316
1/24/05 at 4:53pm
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Originally posted by MacCrazy
What does the FSB actually do? [/B]

This is the system that allows teh cpu to talk to other components such as Ram. The slower the communication with ram the less it can calculate each cpu instruction execution. To me this is more important on PPC chips (RISC) since their cpu executions are less complicated than x86 (CISC). They are executed faster, but it needs to be read from ram more to do the same execution on x86. RISC is usually faster, but it can be bottlenecked this way.

 

 

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post #125 of 316
1/24/05 at 5:59pm
Supposedly (according to the 20-page! Macnn pb thread) there may be something to the fact that the powerbook software page Shows iLife 05 preinstalled while the store shows iLife 04 preinstalled. The implications are obvious. Anyone else know someone at a "university store" that knows a whole bunch about "big pb news tomorrow"?

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post #126 of 316
1/24/05 at 6:10pm
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Originally posted by bergz
The stickers have been up for a week or two. Check pb threads at the macnn and macrumors forums.

Or don't. It's all pretty much OMG!!! What could this mean!!! OMG!!!!

--B

not so much OMG! WTF! for me today, but i am annoyed that how can Apple Australia claim these to be "NEW" isnt that misleading?
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post #127 of 316
1/24/05 at 6:22pm
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Originally posted by sunilraman
not so much OMG! WTF! for me today, but i am annoyed that how can Apple Australia claim these to be "NEW" isnt that misleading?

This is 9 months old, now. And it's the 1st thing you see on the US Powerbook page.

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post #128 of 316
1/25/05 at 12:51am
at what local time is apple usually updating its store ?

10am ? 11am ? in each country
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post #129 of 316
1/25/05 at 3:31am
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Originally posted by bergz
Supposedly (according to the 20-page! Macnn pb thread) there may be something to the fact that the powerbook software page Shows iLife 05 preinstalled while the store shows iLife 04 preinstalled. The implications are obvious. Anyone else know someone at a "university store" that knows a whole bunch about "big pb news tomorrow"?

--B

That's because there are no software pages on iLife '04. They've just replaced the links, they've done this with other hardware.
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post #130 of 316
1/25/05 at 4:20am
So.......
What time are you banking on today for the update? It better be today. I can't wait any longer
-PowerBook G4 1.67 17"
-iBook 1.33(work)
-iPod Mini 4G
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-PowerBook G4 1.67 17"
-iBook 1.33(work)
-iPod Mini 4G
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post #131 of 316
1/25/05 at 4:24am
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Originally posted by rayapple
So.......
What time are you banking on today for the update? It better be today. I can't wait any longer

I reckon before 2200 GMT, but you never know. It's now 1200 so 10 hours to go!

Seriously I expect it to be the same time as yesterday's announcement. 1420
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post #132 of 316
1/25/05 at 4:25am
hi

i'm in France so if something happens, it will happen an hour after you

announcement ? yesterday ? which one ? sorry but i missed the info
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post #133 of 316
1/25/05 at 6:08am
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Originally posted by enzo0511
hi

i'm in France so if something happens, it will happen an hour after you

announcement ? yesterday ? which one ? sorry but i missed the info

it was a quarter of a billion songs yesterday. I reckon if the announcement is made it'll be any time between now and 2200 (2300 for you)
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post #134 of 316
1/25/05 at 6:31am
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Originally posted by MacCrazy
it was a quarter of a billion songs yesterday. I reckon if the announcement is made it'll be any time between now and 2200 (2300 for you)

Well, 1420 GMT hasn't happened... let's hope for 1420 in Cupertino (2220 GMT)
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post #135 of 316
1/25/05 at 6:35am
none of the previous updates of the french store occured during the evening nor at night

it happened between 11am and 2pm

nothing today so we can consider it dead for today

perhaps next tuesday ? \
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post #136 of 316
1/25/05 at 6:44am
i predict tuesday 28th of June
playing the waiting game...
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playing the waiting game...
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post #137 of 316
1/25/05 at 6:56am
If it doesn't come within 2 hours (by 9PM PST), it's not coming today.
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post #138 of 316
1/25/05 at 6:57am
What? It's not even 7AM in Cupertino. I bet Jobs hasn't even put on the money making jeans and turtleneck yet.

Give them till noon at least, before swearing it off.

Everyone is abandoning hope already? Geez, what is this, the reformation?

-ST
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post #139 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:05am
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Originally posted by ShallowThroat
What? It's not even 7AM in Cupertino. I bet Jobs hasn't even put on the money making jeans and turtleneck yet.

Give them till noon at least, before swearing it off.

Everyone is abandoning hope already? Geez, what is this, the reformation?

-ST

I have hope!
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post #140 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:05am
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Originally posted by Existence
If it doesn't come within 2 hours (by 9PM PST), it's not coming today.

No, if it doesn't come between 8:00 am and 9:00 am Eastern Time, it will no t happen. This is ALWAYS the way it has worked, UNLESS Steve is doing a special presentation or a keynote.
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You think Im an arrogant [expletive] who thinks hes above the law, and I think youre a slime bucket who gets most of his facts wrong. Steve Jobs
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post #141 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:05am
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Originally posted by ShallowThroat
What? It's not even 7AM in Cupertino. I bet Jobs hasn't even put on the money making jeans and turtleneck yet.

Give them till noon at least, before swearing it off.

Everyone is abandoning hope already? Geez, what is this, the reformation?

-ST

I heard similar posts last week, and it never came

We are becoming more confident with each week that passes, but the result is always the same. I want my Powerbook!
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*iMac Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHZ (Mid 2007), *Apple 20-inch Cinema Display (Aluminium)
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*Powerbook G4 12" - 1.5 GHZ
*iMac Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHZ (Mid 2007), *Apple 20-inch Cinema Display (Aluminium)
*iPhone 4S, Airport Extreme (2011) *MacBook Air 11-inch (Late 2010)
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post #142 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:08am
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Originally posted by DHagan4755
No, if it doesn't come between 8:00 am and 9:00 am Eastern Time, it will no t happen. This is ALWAYS the way it has worked, UNLESS Steve is doing a special presentation or a keynote.

It was the 21st Anniversary yesterday. Please Apple, hear our prayers!!!!!!
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post #143 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:11am
it's too late now in Europe

it should have happened earlier if it really was for today !
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post #144 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:18am
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Originally posted by enzo0511
it's too late now in Europe

it should have happened earlier if it really was for today !

Listen to what DHagan4755 said. If it does not happen in around 2 hours from now, then it is not for today.
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post #145 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:21am
It ain't comin.

These updates are always at 9 EST.
A good brain ain't diddly if you don't have the facts
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post #146 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:32am
If they don't come today I guess maybe the delay in shipping really was just to pre-load iLife '05 onto them.

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post #147 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:33am
Perhaps this is all an act to make Nick dePlume look like an idiot.
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post #148 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:33am
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Originally posted by 1984
If they don't come today I guess maybe the delay in shipping really was just to pre-load iLife '05 onto them.

perhaps, they could come on a non-tuesday, or next week!
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post #149 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:34am
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Originally posted by Squirrel_Monkey
Perhaps this is all an act to make Nick dePlume look like an idiot.

do you really think Apple could deny its customers and lose money just because of this kid ?
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post #150 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:37am
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Originally posted by enzo0511
do you really think Apple could deny its customers and lose money just because of this kid ?

Relax. Your sarcasm detector must not be working.
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post #151 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:38am
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Originally posted by Squirrel_Monkey
Relax. Your sarcasm detector must not be working.

what do you mean ?
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post #152 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:40am
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Originally posted by enzo0511
what do you mean ?

I was being sarcastic. I find it funny that the guy Apple is suing for posting leaked information also happens to be the guy sticking out his neck with his Powerbook bump rumors.

Is everyone too wound up in here to have a little fun?

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post #153 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:42am
The longer they make us wait the higher our expectations will become.

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post #154 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:43am
given this recent revelation, maybe we need to see what people's expectations are? vote on this poll...!! please?

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...threadid=50404
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post #155 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:44am
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Originally posted by Flounder
It ain't comin.

These updates are always at 9 EST.

XServe G5 updates were 9:50 EST on Tuesday 4th Jan.
iBook G4 (along with RAID and PowerMac updates) updates were 8:34 EST on Tuesday October 19
4th Gen iPods were released on Monday 19th July at 8:42 EST
PowerBook G4 updates and iBook G4 updates on Monday 19th April 8:45 EST

What does this show? - I don't know but I'm thinking no PowerBooks today. :'(
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post #156 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:47am
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Originally posted by Squirrel_Monkey

Is everyone too wound up in here to have a little fun?


Speaking for myself... Yes. It has been an unreasonably long wait and for such a small update.

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post #157 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:47am
rumors have been spreading the info for weeks now

why is Apple not announcing this damn powerbook ?

during all this time, their revenues are decreasing because of that...
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post #158 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:53am
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Originally posted by 1984
Speaking for myself... Yes. It has been an unreasonably long wait and for such a small update.

yeah, maybe i'll spite apple and wait another year for the G5!
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post #159 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:59am
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Originally posted by sunilraman
given this recent revelation, maybe we need to see what people's expectations are? vote on this poll...!! please?

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...threadid=50404

What I meant was the longer Apple puts off this update the more people will think something big is happening. A better question might be:

What features do you expect to see in a PowerBook released in June vs a PowerBook released tomorrow?

By the way, it looks like inventories are being replenished. Does this mean we may have another 5 or 6 months of waiting in store for us?

Let the G5 and Dual-Core G4 speculation begin!

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post #160 of 316
1/25/05 at 7:59am
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Originally posted by enzo0511
why is Apple not announcing this damn powerbook ?

Perhaps it is a CPU (7447B) stock issue and they are waiting Freescale to provide enough of them before they show the new Powerbooks in the online store.

Oh, it is left one hour until 09:00 EST and the Apple Store is still up, so can we start assuming safely that there will be no update today?
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