Originally posted by Splinemodel
To scott: I am having a lot of fun with you, because you're so unbelievably synthetic.
I have no idea what that means.
First off, you lead me to believe that you're from a humble southern upbringing
Indeed I am. Plantersville, Mississippi. Around 1,000 people. One Baptist church. One Methodist. When they don't have enough people to make a congregation at one, the all have church at the other. I can show you pictures if you don't believe me.
only to cap off a series of generally elitist arguments with the phrase, "Ah, a dick joke. That's funny, in a kind of bourgeois way."
You have to admit that a dick joke in reference to my nick, which is taken from the main character of a delightful piece of sensation fiction by Wilkie Collins from the 1860s, is an awfully bourgeois thing to do.
To that I ask: have you done so well for yourself that you are now a wealthy man with time to spend on the whimsies of the elite, or are you merely pretending?
I'm doing pretty well, thanks. The wife and I are comfortable. We like our 70 year-old house. We like our jobs. The more troubling thing for you ought to be your assumption that people from humble Southern origins cannot go on to become elitists about art.
Ultimately, since you find that "wealth is authority," you either have wealth, and thus authority on the issue of taste, or don't have wealth, and thus don't have authority on the issue of taste.
In America, yes, wealth = authority. Just look at Paris Hilton. But my remark was flippant and written in haste, and it wasn't clear enough that I was noting that in a capitalist system like ours, wealth does, in fact, equal authority. Even in art.
I guess the alternate profile, and the worst forecast, is that you could just be one of those unfortunate lackies who listens to NPR and subscribes to their every idiom without falter.
Why can you not stay on topic? This isn't about me listening to NPR. This is about me saying that there is art that is good and there is art that is bad and not being namby-pamby about it or my elitism.
I choose not to worship others, but instead to make my own decisions, particularly in matters of personal preference.
This would indeed be "democratization," and you may hate it, especially because I may well have more cultural clout that you do.
I seriously doubt that.
So, feel free to cling to your metrics,
Thanks. I'll be hanging out with Matthew Arnold in the back room.
but tastes and metrics of good taste always change, leaving you with nothing but remnants of the past.
Like good art?
If it's change you fear, then I'm afraid you have lost the battle, because change is one of the inevitibilities of the nature. That is why I called you synthetic. [/B]
Ah. No. I don't fear change. I fear that we have a culture where no one much cares about what is good art anymore, and where, for instance, no one flinches if I say "It is bad taste to dress yourself in a Hello Kitty leisure suit" but people get all bent out of shape when I say that "It's bad taste to listen to X."
I say again: I am an elitist about this, and I am unapologetic about it. Some art is better than other art, and apparently people need to be told this.