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post #81 of 172
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Originally posted by MacCrazy
i can understand your frustration but iSync is better than any Windows software so you should feel proud. Sony Ericsson always have quick support - so go for them.

That is not really the perfect answer.
Apple has a great product in his hand but he is doing anything with it.
The real point is that when you buy a new phone, you can do anything you between it and a PC, but not with a mac. It doesn't matter if iSync is a great product or not, the fact is that it's unusable.
post #82 of 172
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Originally posted by ZO
There is a need nowadays for an option to "kill your hard drive" before selling it to someone, etc. Like in iTunes where you can deauthorize your computer to reset it, there should be an option that will nuke (Secure Delete) of EVERYTHING in your home directory and whatever else necessary before handing over a computer to another person

definitely, i nearly forgot to do the iTunes thing when i reformatted my girlfriend's Dell.
post #83 of 172
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Originally posted by ZO
there should be an option that will nuke (Secure Delete) of EVERYTHING in your home directory and whatever else necessary before handing over a computer to another person

That's already in Panther.

Boot with the Install disk, run the disk utility and you can format the hard disk, writting random bit patterns to it.
post #84 of 172
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Originally posted by ZO
There is a need nowadays for an option to "kill your hard drive" before selling it to someone, etc. Like in iTunes where you can deauthorize your computer to reset it, there should be an option that will nuke (Secure Delete) of EVERYTHING in your home directory and whatever else necessary before handing over a computer to another person

I think a deep format has always been an option though... Format the drive with either the "write zeroes" or "random character" option turned on. You will have to re-install the OS afterwards, but at least you will be selling the computer the way you bought it...

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post #85 of 172
thing is, Im talking about joe-user. Joe user can understand something like the iTunes option, the same should be available to the system and such.
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post #86 of 172
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Originally posted by ZO
thing is, Im talking about joe-user. Joe user can understand something like the iTunes option, the same should be available to the system and such.

Oh i thought you meant an option that would automatically disable all music as well as erasing.
post #87 of 172
gnupg / pretty good privacy

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post #88 of 172
Finder












...at least there is no mention of a new Finder.
post #89 of 172
I use IP over Firewire every day for hours on end to access a windows laptop via RDC without any problems. It's fast and stable and significantly faster than regular 100mbit.
post #90 of 172
SAVE AND SHUTDOWN. WHAT THE HELL APPLE. It would make a HUGE difference for any user on a laptop...which is a good portion of Mac users.
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post #91 of 172
As opposed to sleep?
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post #92 of 172
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Originally posted by MacCrazy
definitely, i nearly forgot to do the iTunes thing when i reformatted my girlfriend's Dell.

I forgot to de-authorize my work computer before I left, but all was OK. After a quick trip to Apple support they simply de-authorized all of the computers on my account. Just meant I had to authorize each one again, which wasn't that big a deal. I was just glad I didn't have that machine locked onto my account.
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post #93 of 172
It seems as though Columns view is being removed, That makes me sad,

I would like full FTP connection (secure FTP) not the weak ftp access there is now.
post #94 of 172
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Originally posted by Groover
It seems as though Columns view is being removed, That makes me sad,

I would like full FTP connection (secure FTP) not the weak ftp access there is now.

Column view - where do you get that from? It's been there since Jaguar and is most people's favourite view.
post #95 of 172
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Originally posted by MacCrazy
Column view - where do you get that from? It's been there since Jaguar and is most people's favourite view.

Unless its preview crashes the Finder.
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post #96 of 172
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Originally posted by costique
Unless its preview crashes the Finder.

that's never happened to me! I always use the column view and it's so much better than anything else, I'm surprised Windows hasn't copied it already. It makes looking through folders faster, easier and less frustrating. Also the previews for music and movies are ingenious.

Column view obviously doesn't work with Spotlight, hence the Spotlight view but it works with everything else.
post #97 of 172
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Originally posted by ZO
There is a need nowadays for an option to "kill your hard drive" before selling it to someone, etc. Like in iTunes where you can deauthorize your computer to reset it, there should be an option that will nuke (Secure Delete) of EVERYTHING in your home directory and whatever else necessary before handing over a computer to another person


There is now in Tiger. When you boot off the DVD and go into Disk Utility you now have a couple of options.

1. Erase Free Space (New to Tiger, not really relavent but just saying)

2. Go to Erase -> Security Options (then you have a list)
A.) Zero out HD (0's to every block)
B.) Random data write
C.) Zero out the HD 7 Passes (securely erases all data, I am doing it now and it takes about 3 hours on a 160GB HD)
D.) Zero out the HD 35 Passes (obviously only FBI could get info off the HD and even then it would be quetsionable)

So as you can tell Tiger has the ability to just about make any HD impossible to read.
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post #98 of 172
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Originally posted by O4BlackWRX
There is now in Tiger. When you boot off the DVD and go into Disk Utility you now have a couple of options.

1. Erase Free Space (New to Tiger, not really relavent but just saying)

2. Go to Erase -> Security Options (then you have a list)
A.) Zero out HD (0's to every block)
B.) Random data write
C.) Zero out the HD 7 Passes (securely erases all data, I am doing it now and it takes about 3 hours on a 160GB HD)
D.) Zero out the HD 35 Passes (obviously only FBI could get info off the HD and even then it would be quetsionable)

So as you can tell Tiger has the ability to just about make any HD impossible to read.

Cool, I bet 35 passes takes an age! How many over-writes would you need to make it FBI proof!?
post #99 of 172
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Originally posted by O4BlackWRX
D.) Zero out the HD 35 Passes, [SNIP] so as you can tell Tiger has the ability to just about make any HD impossible to read.

I was under the impression that it's far easier and quicker to kill a hard drive by throwing it out of the window. Can you imagine how long 35-pass low-level format of a 160GB drive will take?
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post #100 of 172
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Originally posted by costique
I was under the impression that it's far easier and quicker to kill a hard drive by throwing it out of the window. Can you imagine how long 35-pass low-level format of a 160GB drive will take?

I think this is so you can the hard drive on to someone else to use without worry of them getting hold of your data. Also if you want to crate a fresh install may want to recover things later you wont want other data getting in the way.

Does zeroing all sectors make the hard drive unrecoverable or is 35 better? Surely the best would be 35 and then zero?
post #101 of 172
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Originally posted by MacCrazy
I think this is so you can the hard drive on to someone else to use without worry of them getting hold of your data. Also if you want to crate a fresh install may want to recover things later you wont want other data getting in the way.

Does zeroing all sectors make the hard drive unrecoverable or is 35 better? Surely the best would be 35 and then zero?

The 35 pass write is writing 0's to every block 35 times over. I am now approaching the 3 hour mark and I am on pass 3 of 7. It still says "Estimated time: 3 hours." When I tried the 35 pass it was like "Esitmated time: 12 hours." So I canceled that operation and decided to chose 7 and like I said it's been 3 hours and I've still got 4 more to go.
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post #102 of 172
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Originally posted by O4BlackWRX
The 35 pass write is writing 0's to every block 35 times over. I am now approaching the 3 hour mark and I am on pass 3 of 7. It still says "Estimated time: 3 hours." When I tried the 35 pass it was like "Esitmated time: 12 hours." So I canceled that operation and decided to chose 7 and like I said it's been 3 hours and I've still got 4 more to go.

wow! I thought it wrote random data (or is that only in Panther)? I don't think I can be bothered to wait that long. I think I might do a zero data though.
post #103 of 172
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Originally posted by MacCrazy
wow! I thought it wrote random data (or is that only in Panther)? I don't think I can be bothered to wait that long. I think I might do a zero data though.


Check out my B.). Tiger still has Random Write + these other new options. The coolest in my opinion is the Erase Free Space button.
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post #104 of 172
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Originally posted by MacCrazy
Cool, I bet 35 passes takes an age! How many over-writes would you need to make it FBI proof!?

Yeah, how to make it FBI proof (or CIA proof, whichever is better )? I need to get rid of my consipracy theory's.
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post #105 of 172
Quick Question. Have we decided if Q2DE is actually enabled in the GM build of Tiger?
post #106 of 172
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Originally posted by Rmh1572
Quick Question. Have we decided if Q2DE is actually enabled in the GM build of Tiger?

Seems we've not.
The MacNN Forum discusses this as well and the consensus is that it's not enabled.

That's really disappointing if this turns out true.
post #107 of 172
I got that idea that Columns view is not in tiger by looking a the finder on Apple's site. I shows the view buttons in the window as icons, list, spotlight. I hope I'm wrong but watching the Keynotes in the past I don't think I am.

check it out
post #108 of 172
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Originally posted by Groover
I shows the view buttons in the window as icons, list, spotlight. I hope I'm wrong but watching the Keynotes in the past I don't think I am.

check it out

Tell me it's not true .
post #109 of 172
*nm Yeah, I see. I never really liked colum anyway.
post #110 of 172
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Originally posted by Groover
I got that idea that Columns view is not in tiger by looking a the finder on Apple's site. I shows the view buttons in the window as icons, list, spotlight. I hope I'm wrong but watching the Keynotes in the past I don't think I am.

check it out

That's a Spotlight search window where column view wouldn't make sense.
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post #111 of 172
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Originally posted by JLL
That's a Spotlight search window where column view wouldn't make sense.

So this means that column view is still there?
post #112 of 172
I think, even if they changed it, it looks like it would be just as useful as the column view, if not more so. It has all the info like the size, creation/mod date, stuff like that. I can't imaging it not being customizable also.

It's sort of like having all the different views in one. Thumbnail, listing, etc. and you can select which ones you want for which file types.
post #113 of 172
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Originally posted by JLL
That's a Spotlight search window where column view wouldn't make sense.

As I said earlier, Spotlight couldn't have column view. Column view is great so Apple will not be removing it.
post #114 of 172
don't worry, it is still there, just not for spotlight search result windows.
post #115 of 172
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Originally posted by PB
So this means that column view is still there?

Yep!
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post #116 of 172
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Yep!

Great, thanks JLL .
post #117 of 172
That isn't a spotlight search result window though. Spotlight search result windows are in the new platinum metal theme.

what about doing spotlight searches over the network or on external HDs? How does it work? What if someone removes a HD and changes it on a non 10.4 mac, then brings it back?

I want apple to start including better metadata support in its core apps. There should be a people attribute for just about every kind of file, including photos, docs, video...
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post #118 of 172
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Originally posted by Imergingenious
That isn't a spotlight search result window though. Spotlight search result windows are in the new platinum metal theme.

what about doing spotlight searches over the network or on external HDs? How does it work? What if someone removes a HD and changes it on a non 10.4 mac, then brings it back?

I want apple to start including better metadata support in its core apps. There should be a people attribute for just about every kind of file, including photos, docs, video...

It is a Spotlight powered Finder search; similar to the built in search in Panther and Jaguar. A column view for a search wouldn't work because the results all come from different folders/disks.
post #119 of 172
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Originally posted by MacCrazy
It is a Spotlight powered Finder search; similar to the built in search in Panther and Jaguar. A column view for a search wouldn't work because the results all come from different folders/disks.

Not really. Notice that items are grouped by TYPE. A column view would work just fine. The left-most column lists the TYPEs that were found, click on that, the right column becomes the list of data of that type, click on one of those, and the right-most column becomes a preview of that data.

In the screenshot provided, the TYPEs listed are: "Folders", "Images", and "PDF Documents". There is no reason to limit one to a "List View". The same information can be conveyed in a Folder view or Column view.

I haven't played with Tiger, but it *should* allow a column view there (if selected).
post #120 of 172
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Originally posted by atomicham
Not really. Notice that items are grouped by TYPE. A column view would work just fine. The left-most column lists the TYPEs that were found, click on that, the right column becomes the list of data of that type, click on one of those, and the right-most column becomes a preview of that data.

In the screenshot provided, the TYPEs listed are: "Folders", "Images", and "PDF Documents". There is no reason to limit one to a "List View". The same information can be conveyed in a Folder view or Column view.

I haven't played with Tiger, but it *should* allow a column view there (if selected).

Well there isn't a column view for spotlight; column view is for a hierarchy of folders, not for document types. It would be confusing for users and I think Apple have the best solution which is the spotlight view, if you want it by type you can add criteria to the search, or use the list view.
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