Originally posted by midwinter
I seem to remember Gingrich becoming a political liability with charges of ethics violations and divorcing his wife while on her deathbed.
I would have to disagree on that. The ethics thing had something like 75 charges filed against him with all but one dismissed. The last, if I recall correctly related to a college class he was teaching being called partisan. The divorced wife happened before he even became Speaker if I recall correctly.
More to the point do you really think it was fear that Americans would think he misunderstood the tax code on the ethics matter or that he kept ending up on magazines as the "Gingrich who stole Christmas" for being viewed as so mean spirited?
Another year of items like this
in the news and Dean will be asked to go by his own peers as well.
And if Dean had actually done that, that would be a problem. Dean said that the party was "not very friendly to different kinds of people, they are a pretty monolithic party ... it's pretty much a white, Christian party."
You guys are bending over backwards to to make this NOT a statement about how the Republican Party ain't exactly the most diverse community in America.
The reality is that Republicans captured large numbers of minority votes and that not winning the majority of minority votes does not make one a monolithic party of only white people. If I capture 40% of the Hispanic vote and you capture 60%, that doesn't mean I am unfriendly or only white. The reality is that Democrats are scared becaue they thought their race baiting would lock up non-black minority votes and that plan is failing. Since there is no plan B they are scared to death.
Yeah. They need to stop that and just start breaking the law quietly like the Republicans do/did.
Better still they can do like in Washington and keep recounting the votes and magically have one county keep "finding" votes until their candidate happens to win.
Democratic claims involve voting machine density, claims of machine tampering. Republican claims deal with oh...actual votes. Big difference in my book. I guess not in yours.
The Democrats seem to have a plan for SS reform: STOP FUCKING AROUND WITH IT. Why is that so hard?
It's hard because it is clearly a big lie and the big tax increase necessary to pay back all the bonds in the "trust fund" likely won't be politically tolerable. You don't start telling the next generation ten years from now that "BTW, your parents went and wrote themselves a big IOU and called it retirement savings, you are expected to pick up the tab on it" and call it sound policy.
Understand that the government, no matter who is president (even with Clinton 7 out of 8 years) spends the Social Security excess. They do not spend it to bring down the national debt. They spend it and still raise the debt. That excess plus the repayment of it is going to be a half TRILLION DOLLAR hole per year turn around the second that "trust fund" needs to be tapped. You don't just find that sort of money.
But back to my larger point: Dean sure as hell seems to have people on the right scared.
I don't see anyone afraid of Dean. What I actually see is people pointing and laughing with glee at the thought of the midterm elections. I'll need to find my Carville quote about this last election. I mean when you watch a party put their best foot forward and then put a bullet right through it, what can you have but happiness?
However the reality is that within any party, there are positions that a person doesn't agree with. Since we have spoken at length you know what my areas of disagreement happen to be. When no other party or group can challenge on ideals then it is likely no new ideals will be considered.
I don't want the political process in the country to be a de facto win for Republicans simply because Democrats can't compete. I want the best ideal to win. If the ideal comes from Democrats, then I want the Republicans to have to adapt, or perhaps even improve the ideal to win mindshare. If Republicans adopt a bad ideal, I want them to lose. I don't want them to win simply because the Democrats are incompetent and can't field a reasonable response.
The fact is that right now, Democrats don't care about coming up with true solutions to problems. When someone else comes up with a solution, they attack the intent of the person rather than the ideal itself. The continue to lose big but will not adapt. If I were all about my team winning, this would probably be a great thing. However since I am about what is best for everyone, it isn't a great thing.