Originally posted by Aurora
The extreme Left has screwed the Democratic party Period. If you dont see that then your Blind as a bat.
See, this is a really fun thing for conservatives to sayand they've been saying it for 30 yearsbut the fact remains that it's just not true. We've hashed this out in numerous threads, but the fact of the matter is that when the Democratic Party held to its liberal/lefty ideals, it kicked ass and took names. When it moved to the center, post-Nixon, it's gotten bitch-slapped at the national level. now it's getting bitch-slapped at the local level. We really ought to just have a thread and dispel this myth of the "extremist left" running the party.
A Spinmaster and Liar won for the 2nd time because of No message from the Democratic Party and Not having anyone who was a decent Governor.
Well, Kerry ran a terrible campaign (as noted in Jon Stewart's "YOU'RE TRYING TO LOSE!" comment) that was mealy-mouthed and uncertain and afraid and generally wussy. There was no real coherent message. There was no endlessly articulated 3 point plan. They didn't use the media well. They didn't respond to attacks. It wasn't until the Clinton team of Begala and Carville got involved (and Clinton himself stepped in to tell Kerry to STFU about Vietnam, because every time he mentioned it, the Republicans shoved it down his throat) that the campaign started to fire back, but by then it was too late.
I hope this proves once and for all that Shrum has no business running a Presidential campaign.
America dont elect some G.D. Political Spin Senator. Take a look at history. Kerry didnt have a record of anything.??? Vietnam ? Please another govt F. Up. why even mention it.
Not lately, we don't elect senators.
Sorry Fact is America was stuck with George for lack of a decent candidate in the Democratic Party.
There were good candidates in there. I think Dean, with whom I disagree on far too much to have voted for him, would've run a firebreathing campaign that would've energized the base in ways that Kerry, quite frankly, was incapable of.
The Left Extremist found one of the most left and promoted him as their candidate.
You know, this was another one of those talking points that never even got questioned. The Republicans had one of their publications rank him as "most liberal," then they trotted out the talking heads to the shows day after day after day.
And Kerry is left
?! The guy couldn't even bring himself to say he was a liberal
on the campaign trail, much less a lefty.
Poor Job, They had better people then Kerry but when the extremist run it all. Its Time to Boot all Incumbants out Period.
I think the party needs serious shaking up. It's been conventional wisdom/staus quo for too long, and frankly, I'm tired of them getting their teeth kicked in. But if they keep acting like they have been, they deserve it.
Part of it all, though, is that George Bush is the Bill Clinton of Republican campaigners. He's relentless. He's ruthless. He's calculating. His handlers are brilliant. The persona he's cultivated is perfect. I mean, the guy ran in 2000 claiming he was a "Washington outsider." Heh. It's brilliant! He tosses out the best Texas drawl a guy from Connecticut can do, makes a few verbal gaffes, and turns out he's a "regular guy"! Never mind that he comes from a political dynasty that's equal to the fekkin' Kennedys.
My only hope is that, like Bob Dole (who I *do* like) against Clinton in '96, Kerry was the last gasp of something.