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1. why didn't apple buy BeOS? couldn't they have used it is maybe, OS 11 or something? It would seem like it would be a good buy....

2. why did palm buy BeOS? are they using the technology to put video on the Palm OS? how are they using it or how do you think they're using it?

3. (long shot....) did palm buy Be, trying to lure Apple to buy palm out??? not sure about this one.....it came to mind when i first heard that palm bought Be.....

4. is there anyway for Apple to aquire the Be assets and integrate is into their software?? BeOS is sometimes regarded as one of the best OS's and it's a shame that apple didn't buy them
post #2 of 12
agreed.

it's my humble opinion that, steve jobs aside, a BeOS-based MacOS would kick OSX's ass all over the place.

BeOS's strengths in 1995 were the areas that OSX striggles in today.

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I'm just going to go back to wishing that BeOS ran on G3/4 machines...
post #3 of 12
Read this article.

<a href="http://www.macspeedzone.com/frames2000/appleconfidential.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.macspeedzone.com/frames2000/appleconfidential.shtml</a>

Be was being VERY greedy and at the time Be was FAR behind NeXT. I find it funny that Be was recently sold for 20m. They should have taken Apple's offer.

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[quote]Originally posted by Sinewave:
<strong>Read this article.

<a href="http://www.macspeedzone.com/frames2000/appleconfidential.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.macspeedzone.com/frames2000/appleconfidential.shtml</a>

Be was being VERY greedy and at the time Be was FAR behind NeXT. I find it funny that Be was recently sold for 20m. They should have taken Apple's offer.

[ 11-18-2001: Message edited by: Sinewave ]</strong><hr></blockquote>


Be was not VERY greedy. They were worth every penny especially to a company that was desperate. they were trying to get the best deal by taking a chance.

and Be was NOT far behind NeXT in any way.
post #5 of 12
[quote]1. why didn't apple buy BeOS? couldn't they have used it is maybe, OS 11 or something? It would seem like it would be a good buy....<hr></blockquote>

because Steve Jobs was more important.

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2. why did palm buy BeOS? are they using the technology to put video on the Palm OS? how are they using it or how do you think they're using it?<hr></blockquote>

because Be has top notch engineers and a great portable small efficient OS in BeIA and terrific media technology.

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3. (long shot....) did palm buy Be, trying to lure Apple to buy palm out??? not sure about this one.....it came to mind when i first heard that palm bought Be.....<hr></blockquote>

no, Apple has no interest in buying Be and no interest in buying Palm anymore.

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4. is there anyway for Apple to aquire the Be assets and integrate is into their software?? BeOS is sometimes regarded as one of the best OS's and it's a shame that apple didn't buy them <hr></blockquote>

it is but nothing is going to happen
post #6 of 12
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
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Be was not VERY greedy. They were worth every penny especially to a company that was desperate. they were trying to get the best deal by taking a chance.

and Be was NOT far behind NeXT in any way.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Here is a good quote
Apple noted that only $20 million had been invested in Be so far, and its offer represented a windfall, especially in light of the fact that the BeOS still needed three years of additional expensive development before it could ship (it didn't have any printer drivers, didn't support file sharing, wasn't available in languages other than English, and didn't run existing Mac applications). Direct talks between Amelio and Gassée broke down over price just after the Fall Comdex trade show, when Apple offered $125 million. Be's investors were said to be holding out for no less than $200 million, a figure Amelio considered "outrageous."


And at the time it couldn't get on the net either I believe. Be was more work for more money. I find it funny that they wouldn't take Apple's $125m offer.. but they finally sold at 20m. I bet they was kicking themselves after that one.
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post #7 of 12
and that is different from NeXT and NeXTStep how? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
post #8 of 12
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
<strong>and that is different from NeXT and NeXTStep how? :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

Well networking worked in NeXT.. BeOS would have required 3 MORE years than NeXT did... it had ZERO print drivers.. etc. It was still a very immature OS.
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[quote]Well networking worked in NeXT.. BeOS would have required 3 MORE years than NeXT did... it had ZERO print drivers.. etc. It was still a very immature OS.<hr></blockquote>

I suppose some of the time spent porting and optimising NeXT could have gone into making up for Be's deficiencies.
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post #10 of 12
[quote]Originally posted by Mac The Fork:
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I suppose some of the time spent porting and optimising NeXT could have gone into making up for Be's deficiencies.</strong><hr></blockquote>

No cause they would have had to spend that time THEN a few more years.
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post #11 of 12
Well, what else can I factor in?

- The resources thrown at BeOS development would have been greatly increased.
- The OS group wouldn't have had to port the entire OS over to x86 while still making attempts to support the PowerPC, as Be ended up doing.
- Apple ended up redoing NeXT's IO architecture and graphics engine.
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post #12 of 12
If Apple bought Be instead of NeXT we'd not have OS X yet. It's that simple. Be is not that compelling compared to NeXT. Esp at that point in time.
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