Originally posted by steve666
>Exactly how are the activities I mentioned not terrorism?>
How? Because it isnt terrorism. Israel isnt purposely trying to kill Palestinians.
No, they're just trampling all over the Palestinians' human rights and sticking them in refugee camps until a couple of them snap and dress up in plastique.
That's about the equivalent of slowly pouring a bottle of soda on someone's head while they sit in a restaurant table, and later claiming "I didn't start the fight, it was self defense, that guy is a maniac.. he tried to hit me!".
If there were no terrorist attacks on Israelis there would be no need to retaliate, and even with the retaliation they dont deliberately target civilians, unlike the palestinians.
That's exactly the kind of finger pointing that solves nothing. Both sides are guilty as hell, and so both sides also have good reasons to pick up their AK or Galil. As long as you or anyone else keeps digging up those reasons, those justifications, there will certainly be enough to keep the conflict going on for a century. But in the name of Jesus H. Christ why must you do that instead of pointing the finger at the people who hold the keys to getting things in order?
>What the Palestinians insist on is irrelevant. Israel is already calling all the shots. It is in the power of Israeli government to stop the conflict. <
If it were the conflict would be over. There are 2 sides to the conflict.
Uh-uh. There is no conflict if there is no way for bombmen to cross the border. And that is a question of political will.
>Irrelevant and I think untrue as well. If they were patient they would shut the border and wait till the situation defused itself.<
They tried that millions of times.
They have never shut their border for real. How do I know? Because the conflict has continued.
Like I said, if 0 people get through, 0 suicide bombers get through.
But they need their excuses for keeping the conflict going, keeping people in fear, desiring strong leadership.. it works awfully well.
They are building a wall to protect themselves then get criticized for that.
...so? They are used to criticism, and to ignoring it. There's nothing wrong with the wall idea. I just hear it is being built wrong. It's stretched to cover new colonies built so far out, they will create isolated pockets of Palestinians, who'll face IDF checkpoints if they want to get on their fields.. after the wall is built. Again, pissing them off for no good reason, and defeating the whole purpose of having a *border* because it's obvious the Israelis in the outlying colonies will not be fully protected. Israel should just empty their own outlying colonies, empty the closest palestinian colonies they have to, and build a wall straight enough to be a real nation border instead of a weird prison fence.
Try putting yourself in Isareli's shoes.
I have lived