Originally posted by Gene Clean
Well, this ain't fucking NY. In Chicago (where I am) people are far more civil when they discuss.
How so? Most of the wars I'm talking about have nothing to do with Palestinians. They're wars between various countries in the Middle East.
Not an excuse, but if you think about it, it's the only way they can react. Born in refugee camps, living in misery, with a little bit of propaganda, they are ready to do that shit if the need be. Now, why don't we think about dismantling those refugee camps, allowing these people to return to their homes (and when they do, let's not destroys their homes with buldozers, shall we?) - let's give them a state, a country they can call theirs - and let's see what they do.
I highly doubt they will continue to kill themselves and others if their legitimate needs are met. You keep people in refugee camps, living like animals, you expect them to react like animals as well. Action -> ReAction.
I seem to recall that you can be quite rude yourself.
Its the only way they can react? So to you trying to exterminate as many innocent people as possible is a just reaction?
I think we all see where you are coming from.
Their legitimate needs? Like having Israel dissapear?
Gee, how about they talk, and not kill. Hard to expect a successful peace process while one side is sending lunatics to kill your women and children.
How about you look at it from the Israeli side?
The vast majority of the public wants to swap land for peace.
Peace Process starts.
Israel gives up control of most towns to Palestinians.
During Peace Process israelis see terrorism that has never existed in Israel.
Peace Process still continues.
More Israeli's die a hideous, grusome death, women and children some of the main targets.
Peace Process continues, then Arafat turns down Israeli proposal that all dignitaries present, including from the US and Europe , thought for sure Arafat should have accepted.
Palestinians start rioting.
More Israelis killed by terrorists.
Israel finally retaliates.
Now, you would most likely prefer that the Israeli's just lie down and accept being slaughtered, but they are like any other country and any other people-they fight back. They defend themselves. And with an amazing amount of restraint.
With the firepower Israel has they could have obliterated the Palestinians.
Instead, they take small measures, trying to limit casualties to civilians and targeting the terrorists.
Israel should be commended, not given 100% blame for what is happening right now.