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Apple Computer earlier today released iTunes 4.9, a major update to its digital music jukebox software.

In a brief description of the software, Apple said, "With iTunes 4.9, you can now browse and subscribe to podcasts from within the iTunes Music Store. Podcasts are frequently updated radio-style shows downloadable over the Internet. You can also transfer podcasts to iPod, for listening on the go."

A new Podcast Directory in iTunes 4.9 features over 3,000 free audio programs, including favorites such as ABC News, Adam Curry, BBC, Clear Channel, The Dawn and Drew Show, Disney, Engadget, ESPN, Newsweek and NPR member stations such as KCRW in Los Angeles and WGBH in Boston.

The software weighs in at just shy of 10MB and is available from the Mac OS X Software Update mechanism accessible from the Apple menu. As of press time, it was not yet posted to Apple's iTunes website.

As previously reported, it's expected that new iPod models will follow shortly. Original iPods are expected to receive color screens down the line, along with improved battery life of up to 15 hours.

Along with the release of iTunes 4.9, Apple also published a PDF-based instruction set on submitting Podcasts to the iTunes Music Store.

According to the document, "Enhanced Podcasts" may contain chapters with images or URL references that will display in iTunes as the Podcast plays. Apple has released a beta of Chapter Tool to help in creating these Enhanced Podcasts.
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Apple just merged the iPod lines: all iPods have color displays!! About time.
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iPod Updater 2005-06-26 is also now available as of 9:00 (29.3MB download through Software Update). Not sure what all it does but I'm downloading it anyways

edit (found out from apple.com):
Pod Updater 2005-06-26 includes new iPod Software 1.2 for iPod with color display, new iPod software 3.1 for iPod with Click Wheel and new iPod software 1.4 for iPod mini. iPod Updater 2005-06-26 contains the same software versions as iPod Updater 2005-03-23 for all other iPod models.

Download and install the iPod Updater then connect your iPod shuffle, iPod or iPod mini to your computer. The iPod Updater will automatically determine if an update is required.

Whats New in iPod Updater 2005-06-26
Integration with iTunes 4.9 for downloading and listening to podcasts
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post #4 of 24
Well, nothing changes much besides dropping the 30 gig iPod Photo and making the 20 gig a photo. Well, maybe this will be perfect for the release of the Apple Video iPod. I hope they have one that isn't over $399, which is the price of the current 60 gig Photo. Well I hope the Video iPod's are released at a reasonable price.
post #5 of 24
Ah, so now this begs the all-important question.

What's happening on the 7th? Everyone said it was going to be iPods and iTunes and all that. Well, apparently not.

G5 Powerbooks me thinks!
post #6 of 24
Well, a video iPod with a 2" screen will not cut it.

The PSP screen size is great and that is the minimum IMO.

Sadly, Apple would never be able to price it under $500.



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Am I the only one who is unhappy with the podcast store?
1: All the commercial crap is highlighted...If I wanted ABC I could...I dunno...turn on the TV...or the RADIO...same with disney, ESPN, NPR, w***/K*** morning shows, or Bravo.

All the indi stuff is burried...and it DLs from the indi servers, and it is bottlenecking like hell...seems to me like Apple purposefully put these commercial casts in a better position, both positionwise and bandwidth wise (Disney et al can afford a ton more bandwidth than Dawn and Drew or TWIT)
Seems like the first nail in the coffin of podcasting, in a few short months, most indi podcasts will be dead, the rest will be o3n3d by the biggies and we the consumers get screwed.


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post #8 of 24
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Originally posted by a_greer
Am I the only one who is unhappy with the podcast store?
1: All the commercial crap is highlighted...If I wanted ABC I could...I dunno...turn on the TV...or the RADIO...same with disney, ESPN, NPR, w***/K*** morning shows, or Bravo.

All the indi stuff is burried...and it DLs from the indi servers, and it is bottlenecking like hell...seems to me like Apple purposefully put these commercial casts in a better position, both positionwise and bandwidth wise (Disney et al can afford a ton more bandwidth than Dawn and Drew or TWIT)
Seems like the first nail in the coffin of podcasting, in a few short months, most indi podcasts will be dead, the rest will be o3n3d by the biggies and we the consumers get screwed.

Man, talk about a whining loser. First off, ALL the podcasts download from the parent servers, so guess what, those smaller servers are going to get swamped more quickly. What do you want apple to do? Host them all themselves for free?

Second, how is this different then yesterday? All these indi podcasts were around yesterday, hosting their podcasts, people having trouble if too many tried to get them at the same time. Seems to me the only thing it does is give them more listeners, which could earn them more money and pay for more bandwidth.

And you're argument on the bandwidth issue is also completely hosed. You complain that they gave preferential treatment to the larger podcasters, who've got the bandwidth, and hid the smaller guys, then complain that the smaller guys have less bandwidth. Hey, just imagine if Apple spotlighted them, dude! So Apple's at fault for not promoting the podcasts that can't offer the bandwidth promotion would offer. Yeah, good one.

Third, hey, Apple is pushing the large podcasts that might be, I don't know, MORE popular then the indie podcasts. Why should Apple be highlighting "Fred and Barbara's New Baby Podcast!" first, when maybe 6 people care about it? And I would expect there to be some "Editor's picks" or "Staff favorites" popping up, like they do in the iTMS.

And did it occur to you that maybe some of those places like Disney and Bravo could be paying apple for prominent position? (Oh, right, Apple shouldn't take money for that, it wouldn't be right).

(hey, while you're at it, why don't you start whining about how the iTMS seems to promote major label albums more than the indie artists, hell, sometimes you have to go searching to find some indie band you've never heard of)
post #9 of 24
Anyone knows the particulars of the latest iPod firmware updates?
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post #10 of 24
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Originally posted by a_greer
Am I the only one who is unhappy with the podcast store?
1: All the commercial crap is highlighted...If I wanted ABC I could...I dunno...turn on the TV...or the RADIO...same with disney, ESPN, NPR, w***/K*** morning shows, or Bravo.

All the indi stuff is burried...and it DLs from the indi servers, and it is bottlenecking like hell...seems to me like Apple purposefully put these commercial casts in a better position, both positionwise and bandwidth wise (Disney et al can afford a ton more bandwidth than Dawn and Drew or TWIT)

Sincerly,
Big Media et al

For those of us on the road all day in the middle of radio hell (also known as silence), having all the "commercial" podcasts in one place is perfect for me. I can't get ESPN radio, and the NPR signal is weak/non-existant.

As for Indie stuff, I have a wild hunch that the commercial stuff is also a little more popular, hence the "highlighted" placement. Apple is going to highlight whatever draws the most traffic.
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post #11 of 24
Anyone notice the similarity between the podcasting "i" and the incredibles "i"?

Apple paying Pixar for use of the "i"?
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Originally posted by Jamil
Anyone notice the similarity between the podcasting "i" and the incredibles "i"?

Apple paying Pixar for use of the "i"?

The podcasting logo is a little person. The top circle is its head, and the long part is the body. The little waves are the sounds going into the person's head.

It's not an "i."
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post #13 of 24
Does anyone know if you can use iTunes 4.9 to subscribe to a podcast that isn't in the "iTunes 3000" directory?
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Originally posted by dak splunder
Does anyone know if you can use iTunes 4.9 to subscribe to a podcast that isn't in the "iTunes 3000" directory?

Yep! I know! Not going to tell you whether you can or not, since you didn't ask that...
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Yep! I know! Not going to tell you whether you can or not, since you didn't ask that...

And it's only Tuesday, folks.
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post #16 of 24
The next I would see with the syndication of podcasts, larger iPods, and integrating photos into it; is something simple to start with like FW 800. I had to reset my iPod because I must have done something to get the new software on there, and downloading 2400 songs takes a long time, even over Firewire 400.


I'd like to see video iPods, I had thought that the iPhoto sync with camera movies there would be an opportunity to watch it on the iPod as well...
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post #17 of 24
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Originally posted by Louzer
Yep! I know! Not going to tell you whether you can or not, since you didn't ask that...

Well, from what I can tell, (poking around iTunes 4.9) the answer is no. And that's not the answer I was hoping for. But I may as well ask: can you?

Anyway, does anyone have any other info on how to subscribe to a podcast in iTunes directly (from a website or knowing their RSS feed, not through the iTunes directory)?? And if you have the info, please share it. Thanks!
post #18 of 24
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Originally posted by dak splunder
Well, from what I can tell, (poking around iTunes 4.9) the answer is no. And that's not the answer I was hoping for.

Wait, found it. Yes!! According to the iTunes Help section:

You can also subscribe to a podcast if you know the podcast feed URL. Choose Advanced > "Subscribe to Podcast" and enter the URL.

Cool. Although I wish it were much more obvious. Like an "Add Podcast" button next to the "Unsubscribe" button or something.

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post #19 of 24
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Originally posted by Louzer
Ah, so now this begs the all-important question.

What's happening on the 7th? Everyone said it was going to be iPods and iTunes and all that. Well, apparently not.

G5 Powerbooks me thinks!

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post #20 of 24
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Originally posted by Louzer
Yep! I know! Not going to tell you whether you can or not, since you didn't ask that...

Wow, you're an asshole.

Anyways, to answer the original question:

Just go to the "Advanced" item in the menu bar, and select "Subscribe to Podcast".

Here be a screen:

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post #21 of 24
To subscribe to a podcast not on the iTunes store simply drag the URL of the xml feed from Safari into the iTunes podcast window. iTunes will then automatically subscribe you.

Can you believe it, drag and drop still works!
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post #22 of 24
Anyone else here trying to subscribe to any of the Air America shows yet, like the Al Franken Show? (Yeah, I'm a lefty -- deal with it!)

All I'm getting is a little gray circle with a small exclamation mark inside... the same symbol that you see when iTunes can't find the file that goes with one of the music tracks in your iTunes library.

I'm not sure if that means the link is bad, the server is down, or what. Anyone else have any luck here?

I tried one non-Air America show, a science news podcast, and that worked just fine.
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post #23 of 24
Apparently, the only such show that currently works is the Sundance podcast of Al Franken (which is only weekly). All the other Air America podcasts are only available via BitTorrent right now, and iTunes doesn't support BitTorrent, only straight downloads.

Air America will have to offer direct downloads or perhaps use the Coral CDN ( http://www.coralcdn.org/ ) if they want to be compatible with iTunes. IMO I think they will do something soon. Perhaps instead of having a 3rd party provide podcasts (as they currently do) Air America will directly distribute them, and perhaps with some (all?) of the network ads intact to help pay for the bandwidth.

Of course, the ultimate solution would be for iTunes to support BitTorrent, but that probably won't happen until at least iTunes 5.0 comes out (if ever).
post #24 of 24
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Originally posted by dak splunder
[B]You can also subscribe to a podcast if you know the podcast feed URL. Choose Advanced > "Subscribe to Podcast" and enter the URL.

Great news. I was looking for this last night, but I could not find out how to do it. I decided to take a break here at work and check the forums. I know what I am going to do when I get home now, because I had to keep iPodderX around due to the fact that I had a few podcasts that were not in iTunes.

By the way, has anyone had any issues with podcasts that use torrents for their feeds? I subscribed to .NET Rocks and Mondays on iTunes, but I get an error when it tries to update them.
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