Originally posted by midwinter
I do not feel about Lost the way I felt about Twin Peaksthat they were writing by the seats of their pants. Give it time.
TPTB of TP
had it working fine until they gave us who killed Laura Palmer. After that, it became messy, but there was an underlying notion that Evil did, and it had come to roost in Twin Peaks (I won't give any info away to those who haven't received the DVDs queued at NetFlix, and it you don't; you should). And, there is nothing wrong with flying by one's pants--especially since TP
was very avant garde for its time (1990 or so). It also showed some of the most visceral and shocking scenes (without resorting to actually showing them) that I've seen until Millenium
It was a fountainhead for The X-Files, Millenium, American Gothic, Lost, and Desperate Housewives
. I'm not writing that you don't think it's good; it's that your comment reflects what a lot of critics have said about TP
because it's been associated as a precursor to Lost
in a few articles. Some forget how seminal the show was at the time (especially in soundtrack, cinematography, and saddle shoes) and that it was a certain phenomenon (and marketed as such--I have the audio cassette of Dale Cooper's messages to Diane).
, I am a huge fan, and I've been loving it since its kick-ass pilot: one of the most tremendous first fifteen minutes in TV history. I have, really, no issues with the show, and I've been happily enjoying the ride. I suppose I do have patience, but I also trust TPTB in running the show. They've provided clues to those that notice. The flashbacks provide character info and motivations, clues to the island (or certain circumstances in the current timeline), or both. I can see why some characters are tied to the island (Locke, Hurley), others that might (Walt, Claire, Jack), and others might not be (Kate, Charley, Sun and Jin, Boone and Shannon, Sayid) but were on the wrong flight at the right time--as far as we know, currently.
I really don't care what the monster, hatch, Others, Black Rock are right now, but I will when the narrative tells me I should. While I enjoy spoilers, I don't like reading ahead. Lost
is doing fine; I hope ADD-America allows it to blossom at its own pace.
I'm just saying that it really seems to be a kind of plotless monstrosity. We'll see what happens. We have had a few story-arcsStarbuck going after the arrow of Apollo, Hilo and Sharon, the breakup of the fleetbut the connective tissue? Seems to be "holy shit they're attacking us!"
I agree with this, but I don't believe it makes BSG
a "plotless monstrosity." The Cylon menace is the driving plot-theme (what is
their plan?)--not finding Earth. Earth is the McGuffin. The same with Lost
: its McGuffin is "Holy shit! We need to get off this island!" It's plot-theme is what the heck is the island all about? What is its
The shows are quite similar:
- After a cataclysm, survivors find themselves away from home and civilization.
- A pair of leaders emerges (one of each pair reluctantly). Each in the pair has different philosophies, and one betrays the other.
- To keep the McGuffins fresh, each show has characters that leave the group and strive to achieve them.
- Each antagonist (the Cylons and the Island), cause characters to see things which other characters can't.
- Though originally established that each group is all that there is, new characters are introduced (Pegasus; The Others)
- A misty menace is lurking: Boomer's baby; the disease on the Island
- Character(s) that were thought lost (will) return to the group
Obviously, I'm being a bit general; these are rather conventional narrative set-ups in having the fun of watching the characters deal with this stuff.
Of the two, Lost
has a longer shelf-life: the island, ironically, is larger than space to introduce new characters/ideas/tribulations. Eventually, as the Lost-a-ways finally leave island in 5 seasons, Galactaca and the rag-tag fleet will need to find Earth in 4. After which, Fonzie--start your engine.