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According to ThinkSecret new iBooks priced at $999 and $1299 as well as new Mac minis priced at $499, $599 and $699 are due next week. It's about damn time.

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post #2 of 166
I read the article. It still doesn't give any real specifics on the hardware other than the pricing.
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Apple is expected to announce new consumer-oriented products next Tuesday, in time for the for the back-to-school shopping season, according to unconfirmed reports.

Specifically, anonymous sources said to expect new Mac mini models on Tuesday, July 26th. Updated iBook laptop computers may also accompany new Mac minis, according to rumor site Think Secret.

The site added a dab of color to rumors pertaining both offerings, explaining that three new Mac mini and two new iBook part numbers have appeared in Apple's retail database.

The three new Mac mini configurations are priced at $499, $599, and $699, according to the site. Meanwhile new iBook part numbers are showing up at $999 and $1,299 price points.

No further details or specifications of the systems have surfaced. Previous reports from overseas have suggested that Apple's 14-inch iBook would gain a widescreen display around this time.

Earlier this week reliable sources told AppleInsider that Apple was looking to clear out its existing inventory of Mac mini's through retail discounters such as Overstock.com -- a telltale sign that new models are imminent.
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I would seriously consider a Mac mini if it had 1.67 Mhz G4. A 5600 rpm HDD and 512RAM and a coregraphics GPU for $599. . A q u a M a c .
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Originally posted by AquaMac
I would seriously consider a Mac mini if it had 1.67 Mhz G4. A 5600 rpm HDD and 512RAM and a coregraphics GPU for $599. . A q u a M a c .

I think that's very possible. Definitely at $699 (if rumors are true) but I think some of these things will happen (especially graphics) for all models.
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Originally posted by macnut222
Definitely at $699 (if rumors are true) but I think some of these things will happen (especially graphics) for all models.

Apple needs absolutely to ship ALL models with Core Image capable GPUs ASAP. I think that by this autumn there will be no Macintosh without such a GPU, even if it is bottom of the line (right now even the eMac has a Radeon 9600).
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Originally posted by AquaMac
I would seriously consider a Mac mini if it had 1.67 Mhz G4. A 5600 rpm HDD and 512RAM and a coregraphics GPU for $599. . A q u a M a c .

i think you mean 1.67 Ghz not Mhz
but yeah.... agree with the specs for $599, though make that 1.5 Ghz. $499 will be 1.33 Ghz.

people are sick of me saying this but just for the record again:
$1299
14" widescreen iBook
g4 1.5ghz
512mb ram
5400rpm 60gb hard disk
ati mobility 9600
.............

fuck it. not gonna happen

.............
post #8 of 166
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Originally posted by sunilraman
i think you mean 1.67 Ghz not Mhz
but yeah.... agree with the specs for $599, though make that 1.5 Ghz. $499 will be 1.33 Ghz.

people are sick of me saying this but just for the record again:
$1299
14" widescreen iBook
g4 1.5ghz
512mb ram
5400rpm 60gb hard disk
ati mobility 9600
.............

fuck it. not gonna happen

.............

I think the next Mac mini will come in 1.42 and 1.67 GHz configs.

As for iBook, I think the $1299 model you list is possible (with a few exceptions):
14" widescreen iBook It may remain the same 4:3 ratio display, maybe not
g4 1.5ghz Maybe, if not, then 1.42 GHz (like you can notice the difference)
512mb ram If this is the high-end iBook, I agree
5400rpm 60gb hard disk Not sure about speed, but I think it'll be an 80 GB disk
ati mobility 9600 agree - for all next-rev iBooks

Oh, and the system bus will (finally) increase to 167 MHz.
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post #9 of 166
If no one has noticed, iBook has just joined Mac mini for a 5-7 day wait period at the Online US Apple Store.
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post #10 of 166
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Originally posted by sunilraman

people are sick of me saying this but just for the record again:
$1299
14" widescreen iBook
g4 1.5ghz
512mb ram
5400rpm 60gb hard disk
ati mobility 9600

I'd jump on this.
What would a widescreen 14" screen be in terms of resolution?
post #11 of 166
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Originally posted by macnut222
If no one has noticed, iBook has just joined Mac mini for a 5-7 day wait period at the Online US Apple Store.

CONFIRRMED!!!!

Actually, that is a pretty good sign. Cool beans, as I need to buy my daughter an iBook for school here in the next few weeks.

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post #12 of 166
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Originally posted by satchmo
I'd jump on this.
What would a widescreen 14" screen be in terms of resolution?

1280x768 is what most manufacturers are doing for their 14" wide. note also that this is 720p capable, at least in terms of resolution of HDTV 720p (1280x720)
post #13 of 166
Has anybody heard whether the PowerBooks will be covered in this update? I am in the stage of buying a new Apple PowerBook, so this would be of interest. Otherwise I'll just wait to find out Tuesday.
post #14 of 166
a bump from 1.25/1.33 to 1.42/1.5...poo
a bump from 32mb to 64mb video...pah
a bump from 256mb to 512mb...mmm, ok

i'm really hoping for a new form factor and definitely a new screen and video card. unfortunately its not going to out do the powerbook and unfortunately that thing pretty much sucks now too. not that its bad but the bus speed is atrocious and the video card sucks.

but if for $999 you get:
512mb ram
widescreen
64mb video
1.42mhz/167 bus
bluetooth

i'd probably be pursuaded to buy one because the options are decent. but for a measly graphic or ram bump and/or a few more GB's in the HD, forget it, its still last years technology, imho.


Somehow I think there will be a new 15" or 17" screen tomorrow....match with the Mini. Doesn't it make sense to add a screen with both Firewire and USB hub like the other models? I'd guess in the $399-$459 range.
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Okay, my predictions...


iBook (pessimistic)

12" iBook / 1024x768 / 1.33 GHz / 40 GB / 256 MB / AE / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 32 MB / $999
14" iBook / 1024x768 / 1.50 GHz / 80 GB / 512 MB / AE / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $1299

iBook (optimistic)

13" iBook / 1152x768 / 1.33 GHz / 40 GB / 512 MB / AE / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $999
13" iBook / 1152x768 / 1.50 GHz / 80 GB / 512 MB / AE / SUPER / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $1299

Mac mini (pessimistic)

1.33 GHz / 40 GB / 256 MB / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 32 MB / $499
1.50 GHz / 80 GB / 512 MB / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $599
1.50 GHz / 80 GB / 512 MB / SUPER / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $699

Mac mini (optimistic)

1.33 GHz / 40 GB / 256 MB / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 32 MB / $499
1.50 GHz / 80 GB / 512 MB / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $599
1.67 GHz / 100 GB / 512 MB / SUPER / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $699

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post #16 of 166
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Originally posted by ajmas
Has anybody heard whether the PowerBooks will be covered in this update? I am in the stage of buying a new Apple PowerBook, so this would be of interest. Otherwise I'll just wait to find out Tuesday.

i think virtually everyone on appleinsider will say that 99.99999% that PowerBooks will not be covered in this update. but with Apple nowadays, who the bloody hell knows. we thought they'd NEVER move to intel... as one poster put it before... it's like finding out your girlfriend is a hooker. nice, but hmmm...
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Originally posted by 1984
Okay, my predictions...


iBook (pessimistic)

12" iBook / 1024x768 / 1.33 GHz / 40 GB / 256 MB / AE / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 32 MB / $999
14" iBook / 1024x768 / 1.50 GHz / 80 GB / 512 MB / AE / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $1299

iBook (optimistic)

13" iBook / 1152x768 / 1.33 GHz / 40 GB / 512 MB / AE / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $999
13" iBook / 1152x768 / 1.50 GHz / 80 GB / 512 MB / AE / SUPER / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $1299

Mac mini (pessimistic)

1.33 GHz / 40 GB / 256 MB / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 32 MB / $499
1.50 GHz / 80 GB / 512 MB / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $599
1.50 GHz / 80 GB / 512 MB / SUPER / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $699

Mac mini (optimistic)

1.33 GHz / 40 GB / 256 MB / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 32 MB / $499
1.50 GHz / 80 GB / 512 MB / COMBO / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $599
1.67 GHz / 100 GB / 512 MB / SUPER / ATI 9600 w/ 64 MB / $699

Please be the optimistic! optimistic would be awesome.

but if it is the Pessimistic iBook... why only a combo drive in the 14"???
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I cant wait for the next model of the macmini. Its a bit of a drag that its going to be a bit more "obsolete" after the intel switch.
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post #19 of 166
Just pimp up the GPU and ram and throw in the BT/AP module on the 699 model, and I am BUYING on tuesday.

I don´t really care about the speed of the CPU. Its really not that kind of computer.
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1.67ghz in the mini or ibook WON'T happen, because the powerbook is at 1.67 ghz. Unless Powerbooks are updated with a minor speed bump to 1.8ghz. If it does happen, Powerbook sales will fall.

The mini is built for switchers, to surf the net and listen to music and , not for high end professionals.
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post #21 of 166
Powerbooks and mac minis are hardly interchangeable. They have entirely different target users and I don't think many people who want a portable computer would buy a mac mini and carry it, a screen, a keyboard and a mouse around with them...
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Powerbooks and mac minis are hardly interchangeable. They have entirely different target users and I don't think many people who want a portable computer would buy a mac mini and carry it, a screen, a keyboard and a mouse around with them...

I have to agree. The update is for Back to school products, and the PowerBook isn't one of those. I'm surprised if this were a BTS update why there is no mention of the eMac? Think Maybe Apple is doing away with the old CRT, and substituting the mini in it's place?
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post #23 of 166
Perhaps they're waiting for the flat screens to be cheap enough to stick in an emac? On the other hand, CRTs are more suitable for education use and they are more sturdy... The problem with minis in education is they're rather stealable...
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Originally posted by fieldor
1.67ghz in the mini or ibook WON'T happen, because the powerbook is at 1.67 ghz. Unless Powerbooks are updated with a minor speed bump to 1.8ghz. If it does happen, Powerbook sales will fall.

The mini is built for switchers, to surf the net and listen to music and , not for high end professionals.

PowerBook sales will drop because of a 1.67 GHz Mac mini? no.
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post #25 of 166
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Originally posted by satchmo
I'd jump on this.
What would a widescreen 14" screen be in terms of resolution?

The iMac 17" is 1440x800 or something. I imagine a 14" display will be less than that. Will be 16:10, not std. 16:9, for the dock though.
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As far as 13" displays are concerned, I think Apple would use the same display as Sony's S Series: 1280x800. If they use a 14" display, it'll be 1280x768.
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post #27 of 166
Lets edit my post here and put 1,67 ghz in ibook will hurt powerbook sales.

Macmini will get minor bump, but I doubt it will get 1.67 ghz unless Apple is sitting on huge supplies or still has on order with Freescale.
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As far as 13" displays are concerned, I think Apple would use the same display as Sony's S Series: 1280x800. If they use a 14" display, it'll be 1280x768.

Wait a minute. The rumor was always 14.1 inch widescreens. I never saw any rumors about 13.3 inch widescreens. It's going to be 14 inch widescreen or bust.
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post #29 of 166
now what if Apple decided to stand us on our ear and blow our minds with a $699 mac mini...intel version?

not likely but interesting. More likely, 1.5 with all the options, basic keyboard and mouse, perhaps.
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Just pimp up the GPU...

I don´t really care about the speed of the CPU. Its really not that kind of computer.

It's also not the kind of computer that needs a "pimped up" GPU. The mini is not for big-time gaming or video production or anything else graphics intensive!

What the mini needs is more RAM...more RAM...more RAM.
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It's also not the kind of computer that needs a "pimped up" GPU. The mini is not for big-time gaming or video production or anything else graphics intensive!

No. But being the first update since Tiger it needs to support it fully (and by todays standards it isn´t graphic intensive). It needs the 9600, not necessary 64 mb VRAM.
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post #32 of 166
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Wait a minute. The rumor was always 14.1 inch widescreens. I never saw any rumors about 13.3 inch widescreens. It's going to be 14 inch widescreen or bust.

Exactly!

While 13.3 is nice, it's just too close to the 12" to position apart.

Any thoughts as to whether these iBooks will allow true spanning (i.e. no hack required)? I'm not talking DVI (although that would be nice too), but simple VGA analog spanning like most PC laptops have.
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Originally posted by sandau
now what if Apple decided to stand us on our ear and blow our minds with a $699 mac mini...intel version?

not likely but interesting. More likely, 1.5 with all the options, basic keyboard and mouse, perhaps.

A 14" BTO Pentium M iBook for developers on the go and very early adopters would be pretty cool. Maybe a disclaimer at the apple store warning most consumers it is not ready for everyone yet. Not bloody likely, but it would be cool.

I want an iBook pretty bad, but have no real need for one right now. It should be pretty interesting to see what uncle Steve can actually give us in terms of updates the way the products sit right now.

*Edit: actually, on 2nd thought, a BTO 2.2 GHz pentium M PowerBook would be more likely; which is to say not very. But if the PowerMacs are the last to be switched and they can get some of those out the door to developers, I would think the laptop designs would be further ahead. Steve might have realized some Intel coders would like a machine to take home and why not get some field testing done with a few consumers crazy enough to buy them with limited support. LOL, sorry, just thinking out loud.
post #34 of 166
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Originally posted by Anders
Just pimp up the GPU...

Now, who will explain to us non-native english speakers what exactly "pimp up" means? Not that I don't understand the context, but my dictionary says funny "pimping" things .
post #35 of 166
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Originally posted by satchmo
Exactly!

While 13.3 is nice, it's just too close to the 12" to position apart.

Any thoughts as to whether these iBooks will allow true spanning (i.e. no hack required)? I'm not talking DVI (although that would be nice too), but simple VGA analog spanning like most PC laptops have.

The only way I can see Apple have spanning on the iBooks but only using VGA is if the came out with a VGA display themselves. (Maybe an eMac like design with a CRT with out the computer in the bottom. a 3 port USB and 2 port FireWire Hub built-in... It would be perfect for the iBook and the Mac Mini) But thats not likely to happen. So instead, Apple should just offer Mini-DVI on the iBook.
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Not that I don't understand the context, but my dictionary says funny "pimping" things .

ROTFLMAO!
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YAY, can't wait
post #38 of 166
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Originally posted by onlooker
..... I'm surprised if this were a BTS update why there is no mention of the eMac? .....

The eMac is already sitting pretty. updated just a few months ago, it's actually decent value for those that don't mind the CRT all-in-oner.

1.42ghz g4
167mhz bus
ati radeon 9600 64mb vram dedicated
8x superdrive with dual-layer 2.4x burning on the superdrive version
256mb ram tho'....
post #39 of 166
Maybe they gonna replace the actual iBooks and PowerBook 12" with one model and cut the price of the PowerBooks 15" and 17":

NewBook 13.3" 1.50GHz HD40/Combo ATI9600/64 $999
NewBook 14.1" 1.50GHz HD80/SuperDrive ATI9600/64 $1299
PowerBook 15" 1.50GHz HD60/Combo ATI9700/64 $1499
PowerBook 15" 1.50GHz HD80/SuperDrive ATI9700/64 $1699
PowerBook 15" 1.67GHz HD100/SuperDrive ATI9700/128 $1999
PowerBook 17" 1.67GHz HD100/SuperDrive ATI9700/128 $2299

167MHz FSB, 512MB RAM (exp to 2GB), 5400rpm HDs, Extended Video Output

For the Mac mini, i keep my previsions:

1.42GHz 512MB HD40@5400 Combo ATI9600/64 $499 (it's very close to the actual eMac architecture)
1.50GHz 512MB HD80@5400 Combo ATI9600/64 $599
1.67GHz 512MB HD80@5400 SuperDrive ATI9600/64 $699
post #40 of 166
That would make quite an update. It seems feasible. Maybe they will lose the 14" in the lineup , because of the difference 14"-15".

Nice post mjteix.
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