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Leonis, are you using that leaked beta, or perhaps a newer build that you'd like to share details about? April can't get here soon enough...but then again wishing your life to speed up to get new software is kind of stupid given none of us knows how long we have.


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1/14/02 at 12:35pm
stroszek: buy OSX, steal PShop 7.
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[quote]Originally posted by suckfuldotcom:
<strong>stroszek: buy OSX, steal PShop 7.
SdC</strong><hr></blockquote>
lol.
i'm going to be getting a new comp by years end most likely anyway, so i can wait at least that long. so maybe i can buy them both. adobe isn't my favorite company, but i may as well support them. after all, i can't imagine life without photoshop and illustrator.
[ 01-14-2002: Message edited by: Stroszek ]</p>
<strong>stroszek: buy OSX, steal PShop 7.
SdC</strong><hr></blockquote>
lol.
i'm going to be getting a new comp by years end most likely anyway, so i can wait at least that long. so maybe i can buy them both. adobe isn't my favorite company, but i may as well support them. after all, i can't imagine life without photoshop and illustrator.

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[quote]Originally posted by Moogs :
<strong>Leonis, are you using that leaked beta, or perhaps a newer build that you'd like to share details about? April can't get here soon enough...but then again wishing your life to speed up to get new software is kind of stupid given none of us knows how long we have.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Now I am using Beta 51 vs 43 I used a few weeks ago. I believe the latest beta is higher than 51 (but don't really know what number)
There was some erratic bug with stylus support under b43. But on beta 51 many of them are gone
Very stable. Has never crashed on me
Opening file is fast, fast, fast
MP support to me is much better than older version (I think it's mostly due to X's better MP support)
Some filters (like guassian blus, radial blur) are pretty zappy for beta filters.
Overall. I think it's VERY close to GM
Hope we will hear some announcement by the end of the month from Adobe.
My cash is already sitting here and wait for the upgrade.
<strong>Leonis, are you using that leaked beta, or perhaps a newer build that you'd like to share details about? April can't get here soon enough...but then again wishing your life to speed up to get new software is kind of stupid given none of us knows how long we have.
</strong><hr></blockquote>Now I am using Beta 51 vs 43 I used a few weeks ago. I believe the latest beta is higher than 51 (but don't really know what number)
There was some erratic bug with stylus support under b43. But on beta 51 many of them are gone

Very stable. Has never crashed on me

Opening file is fast, fast, fast
MP support to me is much better than older version (I think it's mostly due to X's better MP support)
Some filters (like guassian blus, radial blur) are pretty zappy for beta filters.
Overall. I think it's VERY close to GM

Hope we will hear some announcement by the end of the month from Adobe.
My cash is already sitting here and wait for the upgrade.
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1/18/02 at 1:23pm
FWIW, at Amazon.com, there are already 4 books in the works for PS X. Two are due to be published in April, the other two in May.
1.\t\tPhotoshop X at Your Fingertips: Get in, Get out, Get Exactly What You Need
by David D. Busch (Paperback)
Not yet published
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Our Price: $28.00
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2.\t\tPhotoshop X Savvy
by Stephen Romaniello (Paperback)
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Our Price: $50.00
\t\t
3.\t\tPhotoshop X : The Complete Reference (The Complete Reference)
by Laurie Ann Ulrich (Paperback - April 2002)
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Our Price: $34.99
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4.\t\tPhotoshop X Book
by Stephen Romaniello (Paperback - April 2002)
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Sorry if this is old news...
1.\t\tPhotoshop X at Your Fingertips: Get in, Get out, Get Exactly What You Need
by David D. Busch (Paperback)
Not yet published
List Price: $40.00
Our Price: $28.00
You Save: $12.00 (30%)
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by Stephen Romaniello (Paperback)
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Our Price: $50.00
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3.\t\tPhotoshop X : The Complete Reference (The Complete Reference)
by Laurie Ann Ulrich (Paperback - April 2002)
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4.\t\tPhotoshop X Book
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Not yet published
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Sorry if this is old news...
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[quote]Originally posted by TJM:
<strong>FWIW, at Amazon.com, there are already 4 books in the works for PS X. Two are due to be published in April, the other two in May.</strong><hr></blockquote>
No there's not (in the way you think).
Books about Photoshop X, Illustrator X and so on have existed for years. The X is a place filler until Adobe announce the version number officially.
Photoshop won't be called Photoshop X and the books should cover the next Photoshop on all three platforms.
[ 01-18-2002: Message edited by: JLL ]</p>
<strong>FWIW, at Amazon.com, there are already 4 books in the works for PS X. Two are due to be published in April, the other two in May.</strong><hr></blockquote>
No there's not (in the way you think).
Books about Photoshop X, Illustrator X and so on have existed for years. The X is a place filler until Adobe announce the version number officially.
Photoshop won't be called Photoshop X and the books should cover the next Photoshop on all three platforms.
[ 01-18-2002: Message edited by: JLL ]</p>
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1/18/02 at 3:39pm
[quote]Originally posted by JLL:
<strong>
No there's not (in the way you think).
Books about Photoshop X, Illustrator X and so on have existed for years. The X is a place filler until Adobe announce the version number officially.
Photoshop won't be called Photoshop X and the books should cover the next Photoshop on all three platforms.
[ 01-18-2002: Message edited by: JLL ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sorry. My bad. My ignorance is showing again. :o
It was uplifting to me, anyway, that the publishers seem to be expecting the new version by April. It seemed to be one of those applications that was forever "just about" to be released, and others were moaning and wailing that Adobe may never release it.
Ah, well.
<strong>
No there's not (in the way you think).
Books about Photoshop X, Illustrator X and so on have existed for years. The X is a place filler until Adobe announce the version number officially.
Photoshop won't be called Photoshop X and the books should cover the next Photoshop on all three platforms.
[ 01-18-2002: Message edited by: JLL ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sorry. My bad. My ignorance is showing again. :o
It was uplifting to me, anyway, that the publishers seem to be expecting the new version by April. It seemed to be one of those applications that was forever "just about" to be released, and others were moaning and wailing that Adobe may never release it.
Ah, well.
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[quote]Originally posted by TJM:
<strong>It was uplifting to me, anyway, that the publishers seem to be expecting the new version by April.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's not surprising since Adobe said that PS will be released in the March-April-May quarter.
<strong>It was uplifting to me, anyway, that the publishers seem to be expecting the new version by April.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's not surprising since Adobe said that PS will be released in the March-April-May quarter.
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They were at beta 43 around mid-December. They're now at beta 85 according to Railhead Design and the app was rock-solid even at beta 51 (which you can grab on Carracho). I couldn't find beta 55 or 85 on said piracy-mart.
Based on what Leonis and others are saying though, I'm now guessing an announcement will be made in Feb and the release perhaps in early March. Keep your fingers crossed....
<img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />
[ 01-24-2002: Message edited by: Moogs ]</p>
Based on what Leonis and others are saying though, I'm now guessing an announcement will be made in Feb and the release perhaps in early March. Keep your fingers crossed....
<img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />
[ 01-24-2002: Message edited by: Moogs ]</p>
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1/24/02 at 3:01pm
[quote]Originally posted by JLL:
<strong>That's not surprising since Adobe said that PS will be released in the March-April-May quarter.</strong><hr></blockquote>
According to <a href="http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/top_news_item.cfm?NewsID=4137" target="_blank">Macworld UK</a> -
[quote][Adobe vice president] Lamkin revealed: "We are working on a new version of Photoshop, with support for OS 9 and OS X, which will be available in the first half of this year."
His comments confirm recent statements by Adobe CEO Bruce Chizen, who told Cnet that Photoshop would be released in the second quarter 2002.<hr></blockquote>
Let's hope they're being pessimistic.
<strong>That's not surprising since Adobe said that PS will be released in the March-April-May quarter.</strong><hr></blockquote>
According to <a href="http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/top_news_item.cfm?NewsID=4137" target="_blank">Macworld UK</a> -
[quote][Adobe vice president] Lamkin revealed: "We are working on a new version of Photoshop, with support for OS 9 and OS X, which will be available in the first half of this year."
His comments confirm recent statements by Adobe CEO Bruce Chizen, who told Cnet that Photoshop would be released in the second quarter 2002.<hr></blockquote>
Let's hope they're being pessimistic.
Chicanery.
Chicanery.
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You asked the right person 
I have an iBook too
600 DVD with 384MB RAM
Photoshop 7 on iBook is VERY SLOW. I guess it's due to the HD speed.
I remember back to my Pismo day Photoshop 6 was very slow even under OS 9 because of the HD.
BTW. I lost beta 51 due to the hard drive failure in my G4
(damn IBM, this is the forth time in six month
) And now back to b43 
[ 01-25-2002: Message edited by: Leonis ]</p>

I have an iBook too
600 DVD with 384MB RAMPhotoshop 7 on iBook is VERY SLOW. I guess it's due to the HD speed.
I remember back to my Pismo day Photoshop 6 was very slow even under OS 9 because of the HD.
BTW. I lost beta 51 due to the hard drive failure in my G4
(damn IBM, this is the forth time in six month
) And now back to b43 
[ 01-25-2002: Message edited by: Leonis ]</p>
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[quote]Originally posted by Belle:
<strong>
According to Macworld UK -
quote:
[Adobe vice president] Lamkin revealed: "We are working on a new version of Photoshop, with support for OS 9 and OS X, which will be available in the first half of this year."
His comments confirm recent statements by Adobe CEO Bruce Chizen, who told Cnet that Photoshop would be released in the second quarter 2002.
Let's hope they're being pessimistic.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
And Q2 according to Adobe is Mar-Apr-May.
Being pessimistic? Well, Illustrator was released earlier than they originally said
<strong>
According to Macworld UK -
quote:
[Adobe vice president] Lamkin revealed: "We are working on a new version of Photoshop, with support for OS 9 and OS X, which will be available in the first half of this year."
His comments confirm recent statements by Adobe CEO Bruce Chizen, who told Cnet that Photoshop would be released in the second quarter 2002.
Let's hope they're being pessimistic.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
And Q2 according to Adobe is Mar-Apr-May.
Being pessimistic? Well, Illustrator was released earlier than they originally said

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Guys, we're *in* the first half of this year. I think ole Bruce is just playing things close to his chest because that's what these guys do. If the guy at Railhead (very reliable in my mind) and elsewhere are correct about the recent builds' stability and performance, I doubt we're more than a few weeks from GM...I think availability in March is a good bet, unless they're going to wait for some trade show or some other event later on?
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photoshop 7 (b43) on a ibook 500 is exactly as fast as photoshop 6 on a Pismo 500...
two years later, 1/3 of the price and still at beta... I think that is quite good actually...
two years later, 1/3 of the price and still at beta... I think that is quite good actually...
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[quote]Originally posted by Cosmo:
<strong>PS 7b43 is no slower in X than PS 6 is in 9 on my 333 imac (384megs)
It is also very solid for a beta.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Please remember that build 43 is a very old build.
<strong>PS 7b43 is no slower in X than PS 6 is in 9 on my 333 imac (384megs)
It is also very solid for a beta.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Please remember that build 43 is a very old build.
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