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Found a way to backup the Final Cut Pro 3 CD :)

post #1 of 19
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Just give me a few minutes to organize those sentences....

NOTE: I share my info only to those who actually own the app and the CD. This is not to encourage software piracy and I take no responsibility on this

will be back soon.......
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post #2 of 19
<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

:eek:

aiiiiight....
post #3 of 19
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[edit] Scroll down a little bit for the revised procedure

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post #4 of 19
Fascinating procedure... thanks for the heads up, Leonis. By the way, I'm just curious, what is it about the CD that makes it protected? I mean, the audio CD's that are "protected" have garbage data in them, but that certainly can't be the case here... can it?

:confused:

I swear, I'm just interested in the technology behind this. I think it is a wonderful thing that you have fouund this method because it is evil evil evil for one not to be able to safely back up their software in case of an accident such as your own.
post #5 of 19
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This is what I have heard from my friend....

The encryption procedure used in the FCP CD is pretty similar to some PlayStation (one) CDs.

The burning software plays a big role on this

When the protection stuff detect is being copied on the CD more from other source it will tell the burning software that there's an error and such..........

In the case of the FCP CD, if the file system detects the files is being directly copied on CD it will give 'tough time' to the burning software and disable the most critical part - which is the hidden validation partition - so that we can never directly make a backup CD unless we do either:
1) Do what I mentioned

2) Find a CD duplication station (that doesn't tie to computer) to do the direct disc to disc copy.

3) On a PC use an app call Clone CD. This apps does block to block (RAW data) direct copy and skip all those protection crap. But I was told that some PC CD writers don't support RAW data copy.
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post #6 of 19
Gotcha. I know how it works with the PSX games... I had forgotten about that way.

Thanks man.
post #7 of 19
Nice job Leonis. Thanks for the info!!!

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post #8 of 19
Just don't steal from Apple, folks.

It's okay to steal from other companies, though.
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post #9 of 19
Well Unfortunately, I would like to make a backup CD and I tried your procedure...no dice. It says, "disk2s1" failed to image due to error 5. Input/output error. Damn! I was attempting it on OS X 10.1.1 on a new PowerBook G4 667 Combo. I'm on my PC now and I'm going to look for the Clone CD app...I've heard of it (and had actually used it without realizing it) and I'm going to give it a try. I'm keeping my fingers crossed

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post #10 of 19
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Here's the revised version of the procedure. Which adds Toast and fixes to my typos

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1) Insert the FCP 3 CD (must be original CD)


2) Launch Disk Copy. Make sure to turn off the "verify checksum" and "check invalid checksum" options under preference


3) Go to Image &gt; New Image from Device
Save the image file as CD/DVD master. Name it whatever you want. In this case I will name it "image.cdr.dmg"


3b) If you use Toast. Pick Disc Copy. Select the FCP disc and then save the entire disc as image file (Here just save it as "Final Cut Pro 3 Upgrade.image"). Also don't worry about verifications.


4) After the image is created with either Disk Copy or Toast. Launch Disk Copy again.....

Go to Image &gt; Convert Image.

Then select that CD/DVD master image file ("image.cdr.dmg" for the image created with Disk Copy or "Final Cut Pro 3 Upgrade.image" if that was created with Toast) you just created.

This time save the new file as COMPRESSED.

Name it differently than the one you did in step 3 - this time I call this new file "FCP 3.dmg".

This new compress image will take a while to create because of the compression.

5) THIS is the most important note: Treat that image as a file. AS A FILE!

6) If you are using the built-in finder CD burning feature with the OS. Just pop in a blank CD into the burner and prepare it. Just drag that file "FCP 3.dmg" to the blank CD like what you always do to backup your music, files, etc. REMEBER NEVER BURN THAT IMAGE AS DISC....otherwise the CD will turn useless.

If you use Toast. Pick Data Disc as the option, choose MacOS Extended. Then drop that new compressed file (FCP 3.dmg) to the toast window then burn!

This time Toast and Disk Copy should not report errors even the verification options are on.


7) When the CD is burnt, put the disc back to the drive. Double click the image file (FCP 3.dmg) on that disc and let Disk Copy to mount the image. That mounted volume from that image file is now treated as the "original" final cut pro CD. Double click the installer from that mounted volume and viola!


For those using OS 9. U have to use Disk Copy 6.4 or Toast Titanium to mount that DMG image file


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I have heard that Clone CD works but not everyone has access to the PC so it's still better to provide a "mac" way
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post #11 of 19
Leonis, you never cease to amaze me.
post #12 of 19
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[quote]Originally posted by starfleetX:
<strong>Leonis, you never cease to amaze me. </strong><hr></blockquote>

what? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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post #13 of 19
[quote]Originally posted by Leonis:
<strong>

what? :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

It was a compliment. Just smile and nod...
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post #14 of 19
Yes, it was a compliment. Just smile and nod.
post #15 of 19
[quote]Originally posted by starfleetX:
<strong>Yes, it was a compliment. Just smile and nod. </strong><hr></blockquote>

we should learn to "backup" micro$oft products and not apple. this is not backup but pirating. apple needs its 4% market share to buy apps. i can appreciate the technical merits.....
post #16 of 19
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Hey. This is not the encouragement to software piracy. I just posted them here to let those offical software user that own the app to backup.
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post #17 of 19
[quote]Originally posted by Leonis:
<strong>Hey. This is not the encouragement to software piracy. I just posted them here to let those offical software user that own the app to backup. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Hey Leonis, no swipe at you. It was quite clever actually! :-)

i want to see apple do well and micro$oft windoze bit the bullet (which wont happen)
post #18 of 19
[quote]Originally posted by eat@me:
<strong>this is not backup but pirating.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Uhhh... no. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

Some people have legitimate reasons for backing up their software. Did you not hear about what happened to Leonis and his original FCP3 CD?
post #19 of 19
[quote]Originally posted by starfleetX:
<strong>
Uhhh... no. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

Some people have legitimate reasons for backing up their software. Did you not hear about what happened to Leonis and his original FCP3 CD?</strong><hr></blockquote>

no, i did not and kindof apologized.
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