Katrina the somber possibilities and the ME reaction.

Personally, I don't think your concern about the ME is even worthy of comment.

Sorry, it is just an innane attempt at finding persecution.

Yea seriously... what the FUCK?!

this thread is ridiculously offensive

Moving away from the paranoid Islamophobic premise of the thread.

A relevant political connection with the ME..and that is the possible impact of Katrina on the petrochemical infrastructure of the S. Louisiana area. With crude/gas prices at record levels, a major disruption in supplies,, with accompanying damage and destruction to rigs in the Gulf of Mexico, and refineries in the area impacted by Katrina... this could severely impact oil prices and cause knock-on damage to the economy of the US as a whole.

here's one link to LA oil industry.... http://www.lmoga.com/newhome.html

Theres a story here on ABC re. the possible impact of Katrina on the oil industry.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Weath...ory?id=1075628

Yeah and I bet those French will be happy. And Canada. And the Germans and Spaniards and terrorist-loving Italians... hell, all of Europe. Well not England, they won't be happy. OK, maybe the people of England but not Tony. But Russia, they hate us. And the Scandinavians will probably start celebrating by having curling parties of something. Don't even get me started on the Chinese. And the liberals in America will be cheering right along with the "bitch in the ditch" and Michael Moore. And the independents too, and those RINOs in the Northeast.

First of all, let me say that I am honestly hoping everyone is safe, that no lives are lost, and that any damage is quickly repaired. End of story. I don't have to tie this in to anything political. But I have to respond to this.


I find the thought of ANYONE trying to profit off of this politically deeply offensive. Yet here you are, frothing at the mouth, knowing full well that if any video is released from the Middle East, it'll be of a few fanatics. However, I'd like to think that even the Bush Administration has enough integrity not to try to use this to justify hatred of Muslims.

The actions of George W. Bush have caused anyone capable of hatred in the Middle East to hate America. There will be some Muslims who will see any death or destruction as divine retribution. These people are sick.

Just like these people.

Let us pray that God will send a massive Tsunami to totally devastate the North American continent with 1000-foot walls of water doing 500 mph -- even as islands in southern Asia have recently been laid waste, with but a small remnant surviving.

No doubt these people (this person) will cheer and praise God for killing all the fags in that horrible city of unbounded sin, New Orleans. I bet San Francisco is next.

And these.

Many of the nations afflicted by the recent Tsunami were predominantly of the idolatrous Islamic religion. It is without question that Islam will be a driving force behind the final persecution of the Jewish people. Indonesia, the nation worst hit by the Tsunami, had an increasingly extremist Islamic influence. The other countries also affected have likewise in large measure departed from true biblical Christianity and are now embracing radical Islam in its stead. There is no doubt that this is a judgment from God upon such idolatrous practices.

No doubt the fanatical Muslims who want to point out how horrible Christians are spread these stories and stories like them all around their communities. Just like what the fanatical Christians who want to point out how horrible Muslims are will do in Katrina's wake.

Just like you're doing in advance, licking your lips for the attack.


The real Christians are the ones who say, "By no means do the actions of a few individuals representative of the average Iraqi/Palestinian/Iranian." The bigots will say, "Look how evil all those Muslims are!"

I guess we'll see.

Pat Roberston would have been dancing if he could dance. The evangellicals are just as hateful as the radiacal Islamists.

I love it when Islamophobic racists who know nothing whatsoever about their own culture - let alone one they despise on the other side of the world - set themselves up as 'experts' on something they know nothing about just because they hate it.

Actually - no, I don't love it.

It's embarrassing.

You'll dance yourself soon enough when Iranian blood starts flowing. Perhaps there are enough of your ilk to found a small settlement - then you won't have to miss it next time.

If I believed in such inane reductionist terminology I would call you evil too but there are better words perhaps. Who's to say who's right?

Not to derail further, but it should be noted that you are portraying yourself as a "Christianophobic" over here. So tossing around "Islamophobic" as some kind of derisive charge is a tad ironic on your part.

This whole thread, and virtually every post in it, make me want to vomit.

Not really - the people I was commenting on stand in relation to Christianity as NaplesX does to Islam.

Hey, speaking of Christians - what are the chances that Falwell, Robertson, or one of their ilk is going to characterize this as New Orleans' punishment by God for the wickedness and debauchery and gayness of the French Quarter?

Hey, they did it with 911.

If the Islamist terrorists had the same magnitude effect on us that we have on them, we would be dancing in the streets when they got wacked.

3000 people in the trade towers was insignificant compared to the death dealing done by the USA.

And don't forget those dancing Israelis - everyone's doing it apparently.

The Russians have a cool cossack half-sitting thing too.......

So? The Iranians said basically the same thing yesterday.

Not to mention how ridiculous this thread is to begin with

100 Percent

Here's another one - they're coming thick and fast now....

Damn those iranians and their theology of hate.

In the mean time where are the post where you express sorrow for the 1000 dead iraqis from yesterday NaplesX? If all muslims has to express sorrow for the hurricane hitting the Christian country its only fair that all christians should express sorrow when the same hits a muslim country starting with yourself. And if any christian should show any schadenfreude it of course falls back on all christians.

(BTW notice how hard it is for the theologists to find the exact reason for the hurricane. Is it all the fags or is it Sharon God wants to punish? Wouldn´t it be easier if God left a giant Post-It on the Superdome so we knew exactly how to interpret his action)

Yes, imagine if a Muslim cleric had said any of the above, I think we all know there would be a different story.

But basically it all boils down to two things: there are haters and non-haters - the haters sometimes where an Islamic hat, sometimes a Christian one, sometimes they even point out the errors of others who wear these hats.

An extremist is an extremist is an extremist.

True that, and IMO we are far too acquiescent in the face of this and the rest of the BS that comes from people like them.

Takes one to know one...

But I've got an even more extremist brother and he's bigger than yours

It is official US Government policy NOT TO ACCEPT foreign aid, regardless of the political leaning of the (US) administration. If there has been any "lack of foreign aid offers", there may be part of the reason. From what I have read, many nations have offered aid, including "enemies" like Venezuela, Cuba and Iran. In the light of government policy, these aid offers have most probably been rejected.

WTF. Are they ready to do an NK on its own citizents?

What if an out of control wild fire erupted in Texas? Would much needed water spraying planes from Mexico be rejected?

Just in on CNN: Cuba's Fidel Castro has just offered the services of 1,100 top notch doctors and 30,000lb of medicine, to aid the hurricane victims. How will the administration react to that?

Those evil socialists strike again!

From the daily press briefing of The US DoS, Sept. 1, 2005:

"MR. MCCORMACK: Good afternoon. I want to start with a brief update on a topic that I know is of interest to everybody here concerning Hurricane Katrina relief and relief efforts as well as on offers of foreign assistance. Let me start off by saying that we have received numerous and generous offers of assistance from foreign governments and foreign organizations. And Secretary Rice after consulting with the White House has made it clear that we will accept all offers of foreign assistance. Anything that can be of help to alleviate the difficult situation, the tragic situation, of the people of the area affected by Hurricane Katrina will be accepted.

I can run through a list, thus far. It's a list that's being constantly updated and growing really by the hour. We've received general offers of assistance, as well as some more specific offers of assistance from a number of different countries and organizations and includes: Russia, Japan, Canada, France, Honduras, Germany, Venezuela, the Organization of American States, Jamaica, NATO, Australia, the United Kingdom, Netherlands, Switzerland, Greece, Hungary, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Mexico, China, South Korea, Israel and the United Arab Emirates. I'll try to keep you updated as best we can on those lists. Like I said, it's growing literally by the hour.

Also, I wanted to update you on a few messages of sympathy and condolences have been coming in. These have been streaming in. I don't have a complete list of those right now, but it's been very heartening and very gratifying to receive these messages coming in as people around the globe see the tragic situation and the suffering of the people of the areas affected by this hurricane and the aftermath.

Secretary Rice has spoken personally, for example, with Foreign Minister Fischer of Germany just this morning. We received messages of sympathy and condolence from other countries like Israel and Japan as well and I can go on and on. I don't have a complete list right now. Secretary Rice is being briefed by staff that is with her on a regular basis. She's in contact with -- back here in the Department with Under Secretary Burns who is quarterbacking our efforts here at the Department, making sure that the Department is working closely with foreign governments, as well as the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA.

Secretary Rice spoke with Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff this morning. She made it clear that the State Department is going to be working closely and in support of the Department of Homeland Security in their efforts. And really, that's all I have at the moment. I just wanted to open up because I knew that this is an interest -- some of you took interest in.

QUESTION: From what you know, are there any specifics, particularly graphic specifics or significant specifics, you can provide on Country X offering Item Y? Anything you could do to illustrate the generosity and the effort?

MR. MCCORMACK: Let me make one point before -- I'll try to give you some examples of the types of things that countries have offered. The process that's happening here is we are, here at the Department of State, receiving offers of foreign assistance from overseas. Embassies here in Washington contact us or foreign governments are contacting our embassies, and those requests are funneled back here to Washington. We then immediately pass those along to FEMA and the Department of Homeland Security. The process then is Homeland Security and FEMA look at what the offers are, what the capabilities of those foreign countries are, those foreign organizations, and trying to match those up against needs. And so that's the process that's going on now. And Homeland Security and FEMA have the lead on that but we're working closely with them.

Let me give you a few examples of the types of things that have been offered: boats, aircraft, tents, blankets, generators, cash assistance, an offer of assistance from Venezuela through Citgo, which is a U.S. subsidiary of the Venezuelan Government National Oil Company.

QUESTION: And they offered oil? That's what I was asking about yesterday.

MR. MCCORMACK: Right. And you asked me -- you asked about that, yes.

What other types of offers? Offers of medical teams, offers of assistance in helping to restore electrical power expertise. So those are -- that's a sort of rough summary of the types of aid that has been offered."


State Department Press Briefing

update: The list of countries/organizations now includes, but is not limited to:

Australia, Austria, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Belgium, Canada, China, Columbia, Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, the European Union, France, Germany, Guatemala, Greece, Guyana, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico, NATO, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, the Organization of American States, Paraguay, Philippines, Portugal, South Korea, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovakia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Switzerland, Sweden, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, United Kingdom, United Arab Emirates, Venezuela, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, the World Health Organization.

And in her Sept. 2, 2005 briefing, Rice said:


she also added:


We gonna hear an apology or wha'?

Thats good to hear. I could not imagine a democracy be defensive enough to say we don´t need your help in a time of crisis.

But I have one issue. What about Poland? They forgot about Poland!

I see that Venezuela want to help. Perhaps they could send money through this charity.

nice

Actually though, they are obviously in a Commie Plot with Castro's Cuba to topple the US by offering disaster aid.

At least, it's obvious to anyone with half a brain.