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post #1 of 288
8/30/05 at 11:55am
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/08/....ap/index.html

This idiot has been on vacation for 4 fucking weeks, and he is cutting it short by >>2<< days.

Jesus.

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post #2 of 288
8/30/05 at 12:30pm
No S... Its amazing what his spin Doctors like Rove can do when twisting news. What a bunch fricking liars.... sickening,,,,,,,,,this is the new Lows from the Republican Party. Bush has been goofing off for a month while his arse got us into a stupid war, 320 Billion from last estimate. What an asshole.
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post #3 of 288
8/30/05 at 1:17pm
Let's all throw a hissy, shall we.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/leg...5_schedule.htm

It just so happens that his vacation coincides with every Washingtonian politico.

Grow up
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post #4 of 288
8/30/05 at 2:13pm
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Oh look at that - the senate is out, I guess that means there is nothing for the President to do?

Isn't this how he spent the summer before Sept. 11?
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post #5 of 288
8/30/05 at 3:00pm
He's supposedly cutting his mega-vacation short in order to deal with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. But in this article Congress as well as the Bush Administration decided that improvements to New Orleans' flood control infrastructure were not considered an important priority. Now look what's happened.

Fixing up our own cities' infrastructures for glaringly obvious reasons (such as N.O) seems less of a priority than demolishing Iraqi ones, for no reason.

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One of the hardest-hit areas of the New Orleans district's budget is the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, which was created after the May 1995 flood to improve drainage in Jefferson, Orleans and St. Tammany parishes. SELA's budget is being drained from $36.5 million awarded in 2005 to $10.4 million suggested for 2006 by the House of Representatives and the president.

What a bunch of shortsighted, crooked, lying Assholes. This deliberate snub to the city and people of New Orleans is criminal. Utterly disgusting. The needless deaths of perhaqps hundreds of people are on their hands.

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8/30/05 at 3:13pm
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You americans don´t have enough vacation time as it is. Bush is just going forward with a good example. You would be amazed how good the world would be if he turned his up to 52 weeks a year.
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post #7 of 288
8/30/05 at 3:21pm
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Originally posted by sammi jo
He's supposedly cutting his mega-vacation short in order to deal with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. But in this article Congress as well as the Bush Administration decided that improvements to New Orleans' flood control infrastructure were not considered an important priority. Now look what's happened.

Fixing up our own cities' infrastructures for glaringly obvious reasons (such as N.O) seems less of a priority than demolishing Iraqi ones, for no reason.



What a bunch of shortsighted, crooked, lying Assholes. This deliberate snub to the city and people of New Orleans is criminal. Utterly disgusting. The needless deaths of perhaqps hundreds of people are on their hands.


So now Bush is at fault for what has happened to a city that is built below sea level?



I say Bush made the right decision and should further cut off Federal funding for that city. If they can't keep the waters out then the waters should win, as they are doing now.

How long should the rest of America pay for that mistake?
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post #8 of 288
8/30/05 at 3:32pm
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Originally posted by NaplesX
So now Bush is at fault for what has happened to a city that is built below sea level?



I say Bush made the right decision and should further cut off Federal funding for that city. If they can't keep the waters out then the waters should win, as they are doing now.

How long should the rest of America pay for that mistake?

i'd like to think there's more to life than money, and that our country is about more than funding the pet-war or tax-break or whatever else is fashionable at the time. new orleans is a priceless piece of american history, and the US has so little history that we should take all steps to protect what we have.

i mean, new orleans is only 300 years old, but that is ancient by american standards, and the last thing we should do is let it wash away and then build a home depot and some shit-boxes twenty miles north.

there is more to our existance than the next twenty minutes.
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post #9 of 288
8/30/05 at 3:43pm


Just how well do you think that Naples would fare from a Category 4 direct hit?

Never mind the fact that it was the Army Core of Engineers that created NOLA's levee dependency in the first place....
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post #10 of 288
8/30/05 at 3:48pm
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Originally posted by FormerLurker


Just how well do you think that Naples would fare from a Category 4 direct hit?

Never mind the fact that it was the Army Core of Engineers that created NOLA's levee dependency in the first place....

I like to think it was the flooding that did it, but hey...
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post #11 of 288
8/30/05 at 3:49pm
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Originally posted by NaplesX
So now Bush is at fault for what has happened to a city that is built below sea level?



I say Bush made the right decision and should further cut off Federal funding for that city. If they can't keep the waters out then the waters should win, as they are doing now.

How long should the rest of America pay for that mistake?

Using that kind of twisted logic, then its anyone's fault for living anywhere. It's the fault of people in the West, the Missouri area and the Carolinas etc for living in earthquake zones. Or the fault of people anywhere on the East and South Coasts for living in hurricane prone zones. Or the fault of anyone in the midwest and south for living in tornado zones. Or anyone living on a floodplain of a major river. Or anyone living in dry, fire risk areas of the west, or .. etc etc etc. Perhaps in your strange worldview, nobody should live anywhere?

When there is a natural or other type of disaster, then it is civilized to band together and help out. Or does cooperation, civilized behavior and mutual assistance smack of the dreaded socialism for you? It's not macho enough, or bloody-minded enough?

Or is anything you can't blame on "al Qaeda" or Muslims considered too low a priority for you?

Hey here's a conspiracy theory you can start peddling: "Hamas have a secret weapon that can target hurricanes on the US?"
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post #12 of 288
8/30/05 at 3:53pm
People can live wherever they want, I just don't think that everyone else should bail them out and pay to rebuild because they chose unwisely.

Coastal hurricane, low lying flood, and earthquake prone areas should be build at your own risk.

Instead you and I pay for security for those that build in unsecure areas.
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post #13 of 288
8/30/05 at 4:02pm
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Originally posted by NaplesX
I like to think it was the flooding that did it, but hey...

That's what you'd like to think, huh? What a surprise - you are spouting off on something you know nothing about, and you are entirely wrong.
http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index....armsway_3.html
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Sinking is largely a natural process: The earth deposited by the river crushes the soft soil below it, and abandoned delta areas slowly disappear under water. But humans have accelerated it. Ironically, flood-protection levees are one of the chief man-made causes of subsidence. When the corps started systematically leveeing the river in the 19th century, it cut off the region's main source of silt, the raw material of delta-building. The weight of large buildings and infrastructure and the leaching of water, oil and gas from beneath the surface across the region have also contributed to the problem.

And if this is NOLA's own fault (or however you want to describe your outrageous statement), then why did Gulfport, Biloxi, and Mobile get flooded as well?
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post #14 of 288
8/30/05 at 4:05pm
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Originally posted by NaplesX
People can live wherever they want, I just don't think that everyone else should bail them out and pay to rebuild because they chose unwisely.

Coastal hurricane, low lying, and earthquake prone areas should be build at your own risk.

Instead you and I pay for security for those that build in unsecure areas.

Look who is suffering here: mostly low income people, mostly of color. Are they of low priority re. your concept of the pecking order of those deserving aid?

Did you support the free federal $$multibillion gift to the airline industry following 9-11? Or the huge, $$ multi-billion subsidies and corporate welfare programs to benefit large and most profitable businesses? The huge agricultural subsidies, mostly paid out to lartge agribusiness, while smalltime farmers go bust? And the endless list of corporate gravytrains in the military-industrial-warmaking sector?

For hardline rightwingers, welfare is for the wealthy. If you're not wellconnected enough, then you go hang with the rest.
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post #15 of 288
8/30/05 at 4:05pm
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Originally posted by NaplesX
People can live wherever they want, I just don't think that everyone else should bail them out and pay to rebuild because they chose unwisely.

Coastal hurricane, low lying flood, and earthquake prone areas should be build at your own risk.

Instead you and I pay for security for those that build in unsecure areas.

I trust you'll keep that in mind if a Cat 4 wipes out Marco Island and floods Naples 6 miles inland.
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post #16 of 288
8/30/05 at 4:38pm
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Originally posted by sammi jo
Look who is suffering here: mostly low income people, mostly of color. Are they of low priority re. your concept of the pecking order of those deserving aid?

Would they be suffering if NO was just a delta as it should be?

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Originally posted by sammi jo
Did you support the free federal $$multibillion gift to the airline industry following 9-11? Or the huge, $$ multi-billion subsidies and corporate welfare programs to benefit large and most profitable businesses? The huge agricultural subsidies, mostly paid out to lartge agribusiness, while smalltime farmers go bust? And the endless list of corporate gravytrains in the military-industrial-warmaking sector?

Don't support any of them, thanks.
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post #17 of 288
8/30/05 at 4:40pm
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Originally posted by FormerLurker
I trust you'll keep that in mind if a Cat 4 wipes out Marco Island and floods Naples 6 miles inland.

I will. I know the risks of living here. And I won't accept a penny from the government if that should happen.
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post #18 of 288
8/30/05 at 5:00pm
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Originally posted by the cool gut
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/08/....ap/index.html

This idiot has been on vacation for 4 fucking weeks, and he is cutting it short by >>2<< days.

Jesus.


I guess I was the only one who kept seeing the president giving speeches from one end of the country to the other -- on his "vacation"?

???

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post #19 of 288
8/30/05 at 5:04pm
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Originally posted by NaplesX
Would they be suffering if NO was just a delta as it should be?

NOLA *would* be a delta "just as it should be," if not for the extensive levee and pump system that was built buy the Federal Government. I'm sure a few minutes with google results for "New Orleans Levee System" would leave you vastly better informed. NOLA is further below sea level than it would have been without the levees, which have also killed off huge swaths of the barrier marshlands that have cushioned the city against past hurricanes.

Anyway, it sounds like you are advocating that the Federal government should cut and run from projects that it started that need ongoing attention. And yet you advocate the opposite for the ongoing money-sucking, no-end-in-sight bombfest in Iraq.

Is that because spending hundreds of billions to kill thousands of Muslims in their home country is more important to you than spending $20 million or so to keep thousands of Americans safe at home?
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Don't support any of them, thanks.

And yet you have thousands of posts here demonstrating your blind support of the corporate lackeys that pushed all those giveaways through with unabashed glee.

Fascinating...
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post #20 of 288
8/30/05 at 5:09pm
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Originally posted by dmz
I guess I was the only one who kept seeing the president giving speeches from one end of the country to the other -- on his "vacation"?

???

If by "speeches" you mean "staged PR photo-op events to attempt selling his Iraq and Social Security policies to an increasingly-skeptical public," then yeah, I saw that too.
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post #21 of 288
8/30/05 at 5:25pm
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Originally posted by FormerLurker
If by "speeches" you mean "staged PR photo-op events...

I can't reconcile "vacation" with either one.

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post #22 of 288
8/30/05 at 5:40pm
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Originally posted by dmz
I can't reconcile "vacation" with either one.

I can't reconcile "governing the country" with any of the above.

Meanwhile, despite all the daytrips to make policy-pushing speeches, how much time do you think he spent cowboying around on the ranch, as opposed to the hard work of eliciting applause from handpicked audiences? Just how many speeches did he make since he landed in Crawford?
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post #23 of 288
8/30/05 at 5:57pm
You don't even have to be in Washington to govern the country. Heck, you don't even need to get out of the bed! Do it all there! Eat, sleep, govern, drink...
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post #24 of 288
8/30/05 at 6:09pm
You're all a bunch of fucking idiots.

Shut the hell up. You start off a thread criticizing Bush for cutting his vacation short and making light of it, but there is a Hurricane. In other words, your response to entire cities being devastated and hundreds of lives lost is to look for ways to make fun of the president and blame him. What a fucking joke.

And then you have the other side defending Bush and saying New Orleans deserves it. What an asshole you are Naples.

This thread has no winner/stronger side, you all look like a bunch of tools.

Grow the fuck up
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post #25 of 288
8/30/05 at 6:23pm
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Originally posted by FormerLurker
NOLA *would* be a delta "just as it should be," if not for the extensive levee and pump system that was built buy the Federal Government.

Um, wrong. Those levies go way back...

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...11/ai_68642805

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Draining the water from the New Orleans region has been a constant, centuries-old problem.

"Back in the 1800s and early 1900s, New Orleans had a very unique system of drainage that the Dutch copied," says Ken McManis, professor at the Department of Civil & Environmental Engineering, University of New Orleans. "What we had was a system to collect the water and pump it over the levee system. But if the water accumulates more rapidly than the pumps can handle, we get flooding in certain areas."

The turn of the century brought development to the lakefront. Flooding problems plagued the area. In 1920, the New Orleans Levee Board began a massive effort to hold back the lake. The city built a 200-acre, six-foot wall along the south shore of Lake Ponchartrain. By the mid-30s, the project was completed.

Read the article. It's very prophetic.

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Originally posted by FormerLurker
And yet you have thousands of posts here demonstrating your blind support of the corporate lackeys that pushed all those giveaways through with unabashed glee.

Fascinating...

Really? Do me a favor and produce say an easy 3, to back up your claim? I'm sure you can, right?
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post #26 of 288
8/30/05 at 6:30pm
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Originally posted by Bronxite
You're all a bunch of fucking idiots.

Shut the hell up. You start off a thread criticizing Bush for cutting his vacation short and making light of it, but there is a Hurricane. In other words, your response to entire cities being devastated and hundreds of lives lost is to look for ways to make fun of the president and blame him. What a fucking joke.

And then you have the other side defending Bush and saying New Orleans deserves it. What an asshole you are Naples.

This thread has no winner/stronger side, you all look like a bunch of tools.

Grow the fuck up

Hey, great rant there. Welcome.

New Orleans doesn't deserve to be devistated by a hurricane, but it's not like they didn't know what would happen. Read the link from my last post and see for yourself. That was 2000!

I know people that grew up and went to school there. They knew what could happen.

Let's not pretend.
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post #27 of 288
8/30/05 at 6:41pm
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Originally posted by NaplesX
Um, wrong. Those levies go way back...

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...11/ai_68642805

That would be the levees on the Lakefront, that enabled Lakefront development. They are different levees than those under discussion here.

Not the levees on the River that choked off the land-nourishing silt - the ones build by the Army Corps of Engineers. You're not *against* the troops, are you?


Not the ones that had their operational funding cut by BushCo, as sammi originally pointed out.

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Really? Do me a favor and produce say an easy 3, to back up your claim? I'm sure you can, right?

That's neither worth the effort nor necessary. I'll never convince you to admit your blind loyalty, and no one else frequenting these forums needs convincing.

Don't let that stop you from digging up some of your favorite old posts to prove me wrong, though...
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post #28 of 288
8/30/05 at 6:47pm
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Originally posted by sammi jo
Fixing up our own cities' infrastructures for glaringly obvious reasons

. . . but that might ghasp take Tax money!!!


No Big Governmnet . . . boo!


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post #29 of 288
8/30/05 at 6:53pm
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Originally posted by FormerLurker
That's neither worth the effort nor necessary.

So, your full of it then?

Very well.
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post #30 of 288
8/30/05 at 6:53pm
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Originally posted by NaplesX
I will. I know the risks of living here. And I won't accept a penny from the government if that should happen.

You are a self rightious full of shit dirt bag.

Somebody had to say it.

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post #31 of 288
8/30/05 at 6:56pm
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Originally posted by Fellowship
You are a self rightious full of shit dirt bag.

Somebody had to say it.

Fellows

Why is that fellows? Those are mighty strong words.

Care to explain?
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post #32 of 288
8/30/05 at 6:59pm
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Originally posted by NaplesX
Why is that fellows? Those are mighty strong words.

Care to explain?

I don't care to use such language but your lack of concern for your fellow man leaves a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to my respect for you.

You are "free" to your opinions and such but don't expect anyone to really consider with any measure or depth your line of thought when you are really nothing more than a bitter selfish old man.

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post #33 of 288
8/30/05 at 7:02pm
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Originally posted by the cool gut
This idiot has been on vacation for 4 fucking weeks, and he is cutting it short by >>2<< days.

Waaaaaaaaa!!! When do I get to be president and take a vacation
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8/30/05 at 7:03pm
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Originally posted by Fellowship
when you are really nothing more than a bitter selfish old man.

Well said Fellows.

That's the most dangerous kind out there. I'm sorry for breaking the rules and posting about someone's character (or lack thereof), but saying that New Orleans deserves this because it was built in the wrong place... is just.. I don't know, less than good.
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8/30/05 at 7:08pm
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Originally posted by Fellowship
You are a self rightious full of shit dirt bag.

**fumbles through the four Gospels, can't find "self rightious full of shit dirt bag" -- shakes head**

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8/30/05 at 7:10pm
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Well said Fellows.

That's the most dangerous kind out there. I'm sorry for breaking the rules and posting about someone's character (or lack thereof), but saying that New Orleans deserves this because it was built in the wrong place... is just.. I don't know, less than good.

I thought that I specifically said I don't think they deserved any harm.

Ah but I guess it makes everyone feel good when there's a bad guy.

Such is life.
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8/30/05 at 7:48pm
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Originally posted by Dale Sorel
Waaaaaaaaa!!! When do I get to be president and take a vacation

Wow, you really nailed it.

People take exception to Bush taking more vacation time than any president in history, and taking a particularly long vacation while Iraq burns, because they are jealous..
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post #38 of 288
8/30/05 at 9:12pm
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Originally posted by NaplesX
So, your full of it then?

Very well.

If that's so obviously true, then you should have no problem proving me wrong by quoting your own previous posts.

Like I said previously, you are the only one here who would disagree with my original assertion about the skew of your POV, and I'm not going to make the futile attempt to prove to you that you are the one that's full of it.

Please keep on offending people though - it's doing wonders for your credibility.
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8/30/05 at 9:14pm
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Originally posted by addabox
People take exception to Bush taking more vacation time than any president in history...

Source?

I have a hard time believing he has taken more time off than JFK.
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8/30/05 at 9:22pm
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Originally posted by Dale Sorel
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I have a hard time believing he has taken more time off than JFK.

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Until now, probably no modern president was a more famous vacationer than Ronald Reagan, who loved spending time at his ranch in Santa Barbara, Calif. According to an Associated Press count, Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his eight-year presidency -- a total that Bush will surpass this month in Crawford with 3 1/2 years left in his second term.

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