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How much money did you donate?

Poll Results: How much did you donate?

 
  • 51% (16)
    $0-$20
  • 22% (7)
    $21-$100
  • 19% (6)
    $101-$250
  • 0% (0)
    $251-$500
  • 6% (2)
    over $500
31 Total Votes  
post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Maybe a little machismo competition will help increase the amount of money donated to help hurricane survivors?

I donated $150 to the American Red Cross. I designated it for 2005 hurricane relief.

Someone donate more that me and make me look like a cheap bastard thus shaming me into donating more.
post #2 of 19
well, my wife and i donated $100 to the aspca last night after tales of abandoned and stranded pets in new orleans. we would have donated more, but we're churning through money like it's water, on temp living and repair supplies for home (and gas, oh my GOD), and my wife's paycheck has not gone through due to damage to banking systems centered in new orleans. but as soon as that's up, we'll start pouring in more.
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post #3 of 19
I have donated $0. If my expertise is needed please tell me and I can put aside 14 days (I have a free flight flight to US I have to use within the next 3 month, why not now?). I don´t see what MY money can do that american money can´t (my honest opinion. Not meant as an invitation to discussion).
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post #4 of 19
I thought I heard some official say that since the Red + had refused to go into the city because of the danger that they would never be welcome into the city again.

--B
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post #5 of 19
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Originally posted by rok
well, my wife and i donated $100 to the aspca last night after tales of abandoned and stranded pets in new orleans. we would have donated more, but we're churning through money like it's water, on temp living and repair supplies for home (and gas, oh my GOD), and my wife's paycheck has not gone through due to damage to banking systems centered in new orleans. but as soon as that's up, we'll start pouring in more.

We all love pets but human beings are dying there. Tell a mother who's child hasn't eaten in 4 days after grandma died waiting for medical care that you donated money for a cat or a dog.
post #6 of 19
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Originally posted by PBook12
We all love pets but human beings are dying there. Tell a mother who's child hasn't eaten in 4 days after grandma died waiting for medical care that you donated money for a cat or a dog.

pets make lots of people's lives better, and imagine how thrilled and comforted someone would be if they saw their dog or cat they thought died. i think it's awesome that pbook12 is helping out.

i assume you are too, since you posted such a biting criticism
post #7 of 19
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Maybe I'm being too harsh. If there's plenty of money in the system then certainly some should be spent to save animals. But wouldn't it be terrible if someone's pet was saved only to find out the owner died waiting for rescue himself.
post #8 of 19
I don't want to interfere in this discussion, but at the lights of the events since the Tsunami, Money is not everything.

Right now, what is recquired is equipment, professional aid , food ...
Money will be need later, for the rebuild.
post #9 of 19
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Originally posted by PBook12
We all love pets but human beings are dying there. Tell a mother who's child hasn't eaten in 4 days after grandma died waiting for medical care that you donated money for a cat or a dog.

pbook, seriously, can it. if you don't want to donate to the aspca, then don't. but you can save your commentary for someone else at some other time. i mean, what exactly did you hope to accomplish by your butt-headed remarks that weren't asked for? am i supposed to call up the aspca and retract the donation? or do you want me to lay awake at night feeling guilty? or did you just want to make yourself seem all so much "above it all" with a better enlightened perspective on matters, you who ISN'T EVEN DOWN HERE.

my money has been donated, and i mentioned it to remind people of some other aspect of th etragedy that is not getting any attention from the cnn flyover cameras. and in our house, our dogs are the closest things to children we have, and we care a hell of a lot for them. whenever i have talked to someone else int eh area that we haven't seen, they always ask if my pets are okay, and vice versa. maybe you don't have pets, or they don't mean as much to you. but i didn't equate them with other people's plight, YOU did. oh, but hey, i'd love for you to fly down and console the kid who screamed his dog's name until he threw up as they loaded him on the bus that it needs to be this way. that child is scarred just as badly now as anyone else, and my heart grieves for him in a way i can't express fully.

look, i am in the situation, my freinds and colleagues are in the situation, i am organizing putting up people in my house when i get back home who have lost everything, and all of the resources and telethons and charity concerts right now are devoted to the people, and no one is talking about the pets at all. excuse the hell out of me for putting SOME light on the part of the situation that isn't as easy for nic robertson to cover from canal street. yeah, i am quite sure that my $100 donation (which i never said would be my LAST donation) will just grind the wheels of the multi-million dollar humanitarian effort to a halt.

(sorry for all the edits, folks, this post just got under my skin. i get incensed when i am trying to do a GOOD thing, and someone tries to make me feel BAD about it. if i have over-reacted, you'll just have to find it in your hearts to forgive me. i have watched an area of the gulf coast i have spent 10 years of my life in wiped out, and a city i met my wife in and attended college in destroyed down to its pavement)
When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

-...
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When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime.
Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight.
Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight.

-...
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post #10 of 19
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Originally posted by rok
(sorry for all the edits, folks, this post just got under my skin. i get incensed when i am trying to do a GOOD thing, and someone tries to make me feel BAD about it. if i have over-reacted, you'll just have to find it in your hearts to forgive me. i have watched an area of the gulf coast i have spent 10 years of my life in wiped out, and a city i met my wife in and attended college in destroyed down to its pavement)

no, pbook posted something totally ass-like and inappropriate. your response was certainly justified. this is a tragedy from many different angles, and i think part of the beauty of private donations is that you can give to super-important causes that may fall through the cracks. i applaud you.
post #11 of 19
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Originally posted by bergz
I thought I heard some official say that since the Red + had refused to go into the city because of the danger that they would never be welcome into the city again.

--B

From the Red Cross home page:

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Disaster FAQs

Hurricane Katrina: Why is the Red Cross not in New Orleans?

Acess to New Orleans is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities and while we are in constant contact with them, we simply cannot enter New Orleans against their orders.

The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city.
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post #12 of 19
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Originally posted by addabox
From the Red Cross home page:

According to the Picayune open letter to GWB, people could go in and out of New Orleans as they please. But you're right, looks like the Feds are trying to keep as much help out as possible.

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Volunteer physicians are pouring in to care for the sick, but red tape is keeping hundreds of others from caring for Hurricane Katrina survivors while health problems rise.

Among the doctors stymied from helping out are 100 surgeons and paramedics in a state-of-the-art mobile hospital, developed with millions of tax dollars for just such emergencies, marooned in rural Mississippi.
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post #13 of 19
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I apologize for putting the welfare of people above animals.
post #14 of 19
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Originally posted by PBook12
I apologize for putting the welfare of people above animals.

"We can not do great things-- only small things with great love."
--Mother Theresa (author)

"If all the beasts were gone, man would die from loneliness of spirit, for whatever happens to the beast, happens to the man."
--Chief Seattle

"Until he extends the circle of compassion to all livings things, Man will not himself find peace."
--Albert Schweitzer

"He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals."
--Immanuel Kant

"A righteous man has regard for the life of his beast."
--Proverbs 12:10

"By ethical conduct toward all creatures, we enter into a spiritual relationship with the universe."
--A. Schweitzer

"...We know from the truths of evolution and ecology that we are all related and interdependent. Anthropomorphism (crediting animals with human emotions and traits) is, however, outdated. Rather we know that we are like animals."
--Michael W. Fox

"I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth."
--Mohandas Gandhi

"I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it."
--Abraham Lincoln

"The Anti-Vivisector does not deny that physiologists must make experiments and even take chances with new methods. He says that they must not seek knowledge by criminal methods, just as they must not make money by criminal methods. He does not object to Galileo dropping cannon balls from the top of the leaning tower of Pisa; but he would object to shoving off two dogs or American tourists."
--George Bernard Shaw

"The question is not, can they reason? Nor, can they talk? But can they suffer?"
--Jeremy Bentham

"...we sacrifice other species to our own not because our own has any objective metaphysical privilege over others, but simply because it is ours. It may be very natural to have this loyalty to our own species, but let us hear no more from the naturalists about the "sentimentality" of anti-vivisectionists. If loyalty to our own species--preference for man simply because we are men--is not sentiment, then what is?"
--C.S. Lewis

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
--Ghandi

"I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being."
--Abraham Lincoln

"I believe I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't. To know that the results are profitable to the race would not remove my hostility to it. THE PAIN WHICH IT INFLICTS UPON NON-CONSENTING ANIMALS is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further."
--Mark Twain

"For fidelity, devotion, love, many a two-legged animal (man) is below the dog and the horse. Happy would it be for thousands of people if they could stand at last before the Judgment Seat and say "I have loved as truly and I have lived as decently as my dog." And yet we call them "only animals"!"
--Henry Ward Beecher (abolitionist)

"I despise and abhor the pleas on behalf of that infamous practice, vivisection... I would rather submit to the worst of deaths, so far as pain goes, than have a single dog or cat tortured to death on the pretense of sparing me a twinge or two."
--Robert Browning (poet)

"Imagine that you are creating a fabric of human destiny with the object of making men happy in the end, giving them peace and rest at last, but that it was essential and inevitable to torture to death only one tiny creature, and to found that edifice on its unavenged tears. Would you consent to be the architect on those conditions? Tell me, and tell the truth."
--Fyodor Dostoyevsky (novelist)

"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you--alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"
--Fyodor Dostoyevsky (novelist)

"Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages."
--Thomas Edison (inventor)

"Every year tens of thousands of animals suffer and die in laboratory tests of cosmetics and household products...despite the fact that the test results do not help prevent or treat accidental or purposeful misuse of the products. Please join me in using your voice for those whose cries are forever sealed behind the laboratory doors."
--Woody Harrelson (actor)

"Even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath, so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is Vanity."
--Ecclesiastes 3:19

"Our task must be to free ourselves...by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty."
--Albert Einstein (physicist, Nobel 1921)

"Not to hurt our humble brethren (the animals) is our first duty to them, but to stop there is not enough. We have a higher mission--to be of service to them whenever they require it... If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men."
--Saint Francis of Assisi (mystic and preacher)

"There is not an animal on the earth, nor a flying creature on two wings, but they are people like unto you."
--The Koran (sacred scripture of Islam)

"I abhor vivisection with my whole soul. All the scientific discoveries stained with innocent blood I count as of no consequence."
--Mahatma Gandhi (statesman and philosopher)

"To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being. I should be unwilling to take the life of a lamb for the sake of the human body."
--Mahatma Gandhi

"If we cut up beasts simply because they cannot prevent us and because we are backing our own side in the struggle for existence, it is only logical to cut up imbeciles, criminals, enemies, or capitalist for the same reasons."
--C. S. Lewis (novelist and essayist)

"All cruelty springs from weakness."
--Seneca (4 BC - AD 65)

"We have enslaved the rest of the animal creation, and have treated our distant cousins in fur and feathers so badly that beyond doubt, if they were able to formulate a religion, they would depict the Devil in human form."
--William Ralph Inge (1860-1954)

"Love of animals is a universal impulse, a common ground on which all of us may meet. By loving and understanding animals, perhaps we humans shall come to understand each other."
--Dr Louis J.Camuti (1893-1981)

"It should not be believed that all beings exist for the sake of the existence of man. On the contrary, all the other beings too have been intended for their own sakes and not for the sake of anything else."
--Maimonides (physician and philosopher)

"For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love."
--Pythagoras (philosopher and mathematician)

"Animals share with us the privilege of having a soul."
--Pythagoras (philosopher and mathematician)

"Compassion for animals is intimately connected with goodness of character; and it may be confidently asserted that he who is cruel to animals cannot be a good man."
--Arthur Schopenhauer (philosopher)

"The squirrel that you kill in jest, dies in earnest."
--Henry David Thoreau (essayist and poet)

"The soul is the same in all living creatures, although the body of each is different."
--Hippocrates (philosopher)

"I have always felt that the way we treat animals is a pretty good indicator of the compassion we are capable of for the human race."
--Ali McGraw (actress)

"In studying the traits and dispositions of the so-called lower animals, and contrasting them with man's, I find the result humiliating to me."
--Mark Twain (author)
post #15 of 19
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I'm not disagreeing with you. I just think the tremendous capacity to show kindness in an event like this needs to focus on people first. I hate the fact that people had to leave their pets behind but they are still trying to get real people out of the city. When that's done, if they have time and people, they can go back for the pets. I can't see what's wrong with that.
post #16 of 19
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Originally posted by PBook12
I'm not disagreeing with you. I just think the tremendous capacity to show kindness in an event like this needs to focus on people first. I hate the fact that people had to leave their pets behind but they are still trying to get real people out of the city. When that's done, if they have time and people, they can go back for the pets. I can't see what's wrong with that.

well, by donating to the group he did, perhaps pets will be saved alongside with people. it isn't mutually exclusive. plus, people are giving generously on all fronts, and it is clearly not a situation where the reason people aren't being rescued is a lack of money. it never has been.
post #17 of 19
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Originally posted by PBook12
I'm not disagreeing with you. I just think the tremendous capacity to show kindness in an event like this needs to focus on people first. I hate the fact that people had to leave their pets behind but they are still trying to get real people out of the city. When that's done, if they have time and people, they can go back for the pets. I can't see what's wrong with that.

And in this great nation, you have endless opportunities to donate to whom ever you chose, and so does everyone else. Just because you think so, doesn't make it right.

My wife and I donated about 3 months salary and 300,000 frequent flyer miles to assist in relocation efforts.
post #18 of 19
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Okay whatever I'm sorry. You guys feel differently about than I do.
post #19 of 19
Whilst the Tsunami disasters had me donate on the third day, I am afraid to say that I do not intend to donate in this case: a man-made disaster overseen by an elected man-made disaster. No.

I think there should be enough money in the kitty (from the budget cut savings alone) without me having to contribute. If this sounds harsh, I do not actually know of anyone who has donated. And when asked why not, the reasons given were the same.

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