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doesn't look that big here, but check it out when on the mobo (sorry, crappy pics from mobile phone, i got no digital camera)




as you can see while the footprint is just about the size of a cpu die, it spans at least 1/4 of a motherboard.




this is the fan from the stock amd heatsink, i ripped it off and am using it to blow directly on the asus southbridge heatsink (i removed the asus southbridge heatsink fan, it was noisy and small.
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I think you will enjoy the heat sink and fan combo. My father installed one into his machine last year and the difference it makes in the level of noise is astounding. Except for when the 10,000 rpm hard drive is spinning, I can hardly tell the machine is on anymore.
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From the looks of that (out of focus ) pic, your using an El cheap midi tower?
Which is probably made of steel, which is ain't good as it retains the heat and fry's everything. get a nice aluminum case, Cooler-master do a nice range.

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Originally posted by cybermonkey
From the looks of that (out of focus ) pic, your using an El cheap midi tower?
Which is probably made of steel, which is ain't good as it retains the heat and fry's everything. get a nice aluminum case, Cooler-master do a nice range.


Cooler-master dose make nice aluminum cases, although I prefer Lian Li - I've owned 5 Lian Li case and all have worked perfectly.
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Cooler-master dose make nice aluminum cases, although I prefer Lian Li - I've owned 5 Lian Li case and all have worked perfectly.

Hey, they are nice, i'm especially liking this one
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Originally posted by cybermonkey
Which is probably made of steel, which is ain't good as it retains the heat and fry's everything. get a nice aluminum case, Cooler-master do a nice range.

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Just to clarify aluminum is pronounced AL-U-MIN-YUM and not ALUME-IN-UM

Somehow, I thought the standard UK English spelling was aluminium, which explains the pronunciation differences.

Has anyone had any solid confirmation that aluminum makes a worthwhile difference in computer cooling? Such as trying the exact same case design in both steel and aluminum? Unless the heat sink is coupled to the case, good air flow is a much more significant factor, particularly as it is metal to air to metal heat flow.

And why is this thread in a Mac forum anyway?
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And why is this thread in a Mac forum anyway?

And who are you to decide what thread goes where?
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And who are you to decide what thread goes where?

Uh, woah, I'm not even suggesting I'm one to decide this, I just think it's odd. I don't visit here often, but I've never noticed a thread talking solely about PC hardware in this subforum, it seems so out of place. About as out of place as someone posting a new thread about their new Zen in the iPod forum.
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heh. i think there are a lot of appleinsiders that go both ways, or many ways... people here that have macs but also pcs running windows and linux and stuff.

i suppose this could go to general Discussion rather than current hardware...
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Originally posted by Kishan
I think you will enjoy the heat sink and fan combo. My father installed one into his machine last year and the difference it makes in the level of noise is astounding. Except for when the 10,000 rpm hard drive is spinning, I can hardly tell the machine is on anymore.

i must say i'm liking the zalman copper flower. and i'm glad i ripped out (well, gently dismantled) the southbridge fan and am just blowing the amd stock fan onto it... with these mods, more acoustically hmm... satisfying...

hey my maxtor diamondmax plus 9 sata 7200rpm 80gb drive is silent as. really, i don't hear it at all...

i am far from any sort of silent pc though, but now i guess the acoustically satisfying part that it sounds more "breezy" rather than "grindy" or "rattle-y"
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heh. i think there are a lot of appleinsiders that go both ways, or many ways... people here that have macs but also pcs running windows and linux and stuff.

i suppose this could go to general Discussion rather than current hardware...

Well, I generally frequent forums of unrelated interests that are bigger sticklers about being on-topic, so forgive my previous comments.

You do raise a good point. Normally I'd think I'd go to a different PC forum to discuss PC stuff, but then, for a computer-heavy forum, this seems to be among the best that I've been to.
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Originally posted by cybermonkey
From the looks of that (out of focus ) pic, your using an El cheap midi tower?
Which is probably made of steel, which is ain't good as it retains the heat and fry's everything. get a nice aluminum case, Cooler-master do a nice range.

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Just to clarify aluminum is pronounced AL-U-MIN-YUM and not ALUME-IN-UM




heh. i'm with the Brit on the aluminium thing. having grown up in the colonies of the Empire (malaysia, singapore, australia), i learnt the Queen's english, yo.

umm... yeah... that case is just the steel frame left from ripping out the plastic and power supply and other bits and pieces from an old circa1997-1998 Midi(? ..uh yeah i think its midi) tower that used to house a pentium2-233mhz

every pc case so far i've looked at makes me want to throw up. i'll check out this lian yi deal. oh i thought the "shuttle" pcs are cool but too small.

i am definitely spoilt from my G4 and G5 powermacs i used to own, and still use at work/etc nowadays... why has no pc case manufacturer come to anything close to the now 5-year-old-but-still-kickass powermac g4 design ?????

oh and it is IUPAC spelling with the i in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium
apparently this wiki is "protected until disputes can be resolved" probably regarding the spelling and pronounciation of aluminium...!!!
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Originally posted by sunilraman
i am far from any sort of silent pc though, but now i guess the acoustically satisfying part that it sounds more "breezy" rather than "grindy" or "rattle-y"

The pitch has a lot to do with perception of how annoying a sound is. All my PCs have a low-pitched muffled turbulence sound (a lot like low speed wind turbulence), which I greatly prefer to anything that whines. It helps that the smallest fan them is mid-speed 9cm rather than one of the cheap tiny whiners, a design choice I agree with.
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The pitch has a lot to do with how annoying a sound is. All my PCs have a low-pitched muffled turbulence sound, which I greatly prefer to anything that whines. It helps that the smallest fan them is mid-speed 9cm rather than one of the cheap tiny whiners, a design choice I agree with.


cool. so it wasn't just me... well that's the fun part of hacking around with a pc box, i suppose you might say it is relevant in exploring apple's design considerations and challenges. eg. the "whiney" iMac g5 17"

totally. bigger, slower, breezier = more pleasing, well ventilated, "spaceship/ airconditioner hum" sort of feel, rather than (edit) "blender/vacuum cleaner" ... i'm a bit dissapointed that asus used one of those for the southbridge fan, but then again i bought the a8n sli normal, while the a8n sli deluxe is a heatpipe (pure-fanless) motherboard.

yeah looks like 90mm and above and say 4000rpm (less? 2000rpm and below??)and below is the starting point for pleasant air cooling stuff...
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Originally posted by JeffDM
Well, I generally frequent forums of unrelated interests that are bigger sticklers about being on-topic, so forgive my previous comments.

You do raise a good point. Normally I'd think I'd go to a different PC forum to discuss PC stuff, but then, for a computer-heavy forum, this seems to be among the best that I've been to.


heh. no worries. i think i'm scared by all those other pc fanboy sites. i feel "safe" sharing here also having a high post count affords me *some* degree of immunity from ridicule here though not always.
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ah... good to see some good drugs are still making their way into China, specifically the Lian Li product design floor...

http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/M_M_PC-777.htm
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Originally posted by sunilraman
oh and it is IUPAC spelling with the i in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium
apparently this wiki is "protected until disputes can be resolved" probably regarding the spelling and pronounciation of aluminium...!!!

You can thank safari's spell check for the removal of the I

What i tend to say whenever i get into a heated slanging match over this is "England invented english, So we know how our words are pronounced, That's why it's called English!!!"

The above comments are meant solely as jest (Joke). These comments should not be taken seriously and i shall not be liable for any flame, Terrorist or economic wars, That some people may feel inclined to start

This thread should not be read if your pregnant, manically depressed or take ibuprofen
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I didn't know there was a 'terrorist war'. I've heard of terrorism, but...
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This is a nice case i currently own that i have lying around in the spare junk room

In it is a 3 gig prescot, 1 gig ram, 300 gb HD and a 6600 GT O/C
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heh. i think there are a lot of appleinsiders that go both ways, or many ways......

Hmm...

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...people here that have macs but also pcs running windows and linux and stuff.

i suppose this could go to general Discussion rather than current hardware...

Yes GD is the right place.
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This is a nice case i currently own that i have lying around in the spare junk room

In it is a 3 gig prescot, 1 gig ram, 300 gb HD and a 6600 GT O/C

*shakes fist* ya bastard...!! yes yes yes, other than genuine alienware that is the only other pc case that i can live with. i've seen red ones around (similar to if not actual asus vento). frackin BAD ASS.
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ooooh... and it's made by asus. good on them. :thumbs:

edit: very nice but one thing, i'd like the bottom jet intake vents to not come out so much, that is, for it to be curvey and all that but still have an overall rectangular profile ala powermac g4.

*sigh* so it looks like i'll be sticking to my old skool ripped out steel cage for a while...
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Originally posted by sunilraman
ah... good to see some good drugs are still making their way into China, specifically the Lian Li product design floor...

http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/M_M_PC-777.htm

The conchPC!
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ooooh... and it's made by asus. good on them. :thumbs:

edit: very nice but one thing, i'd like the bottom jet intake vents to not come out so much, that is, for it to be curvey and all that but still have an overall rectangular profile ala powermac g4.

*sigh* so it looks like i'll be sticking to my old skool ripped out steel cage for a while...

It is a very nice case indeed which i believe was designed by some car designer. When i ordered it, I put in for a red one, which looks awesome, but somehow ended up with a green one The bottom vents are'nt too bad what is annoying though is the 4 USB2 and headphone ports at the front are recessed too far in, So if you have got big hands, It's a bitch to access.

Confession time:

After taking that pic, i couldn't stop thinking about it running again, mainly a CS:S fix

[RANT]That game has ruined my life, i Started playing it 6 years ago when it was in the beta's, Now whenever i think PC or hear anyone else going on about em, all i can think about is fecking HL!!! I am pretty certain the game contains Subliminal messages )[/RANT]

It is now sitting on my desk running kde3.4 under gentoo
before you ask, i have 2 copies of windows XP, 1 is used as a coaster and the other is a spare for the coaster

This is certainly bringing back old memories, But is just doesn't have the OS X feel We'll see how long it lasts as my main station.

I'll post pics later/
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yeah... it's weird huh... at first i started playing NFSunderground2 and it was a bit too much attitude for me, but as i got into it, its just fun, if you turn off all the annoying voice overs... and turn of the music tracks you don't like. at high quality, 4x aa 4x af it's beautiful on the amd64-6600gt......... good times

but then today i tried myst5 (i finished the myst1 back in the day.... sooo painful but i finished it !! yeah!)... the myst5 demo looked pretty but i was like, WTF? something was just downright weird and upsetting about that game. then fired up fifa2006. i used to get into the ol'FIFA94 or whatever... it was fun..! but fifa2006? its like all the players look like these weird characters out of resident evil or something... hella freaky.

was heavy into CS and ut2004 through 2004... but now these gaming places seem a bit weird

maybe i'm getting old? i turn 27 in a few weeks i suppose i've got my own tastes now, i used to always like RTS, driving, and flying games. FPS is too adrenalinecharged for me nowadays, and RTS is just, well, Starcraft was the epitome in my mind. frackin' piece of literature, it is. why hasn't anyone put out a nice space sim? i hope i won't have to download that remake of privateer, just because, well, its retro and fun, but, what about something new??? like a battlestar galactica space sim game??? that would be awesome. something that took the best bits of wing commander and xwing/tiefighter and follows on from the vision of this excellently-reimagined BSG. as more of the story is revealed they can release expansion packs and stuff

oh bugger. 1 virus on my computer. shite. gotta end this rant and vent the sucker out the airlock. the joys of using a PC thank goodness for mcafee, much less annoying than norton. i used to trust norton, but, *sigh* times change... especially how in this decade norton anything mostly screwed up your mac....
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yeah... it's weird huh... at first i started playing NFSunderground2 and it was a bit too much attitude for me, but as i got into it, its just fun, if you turn off all the annoying voice overs... and turn of the music tracks you don't like. at high quality, 4x aa 4x af it's beautiful on the amd64-6600gt......... good times

but then today i tried myst5 (i finished the myst1 back in the day.... sooo painful but i finished it !! yeah!)... the myst5 demo looked pretty but i was like, WTF? something was just downright weird and upsetting about that game. then fired up fifa2006. i used to get into the ol'FIFA94 or whatever... it was fun..! but fifa2006? its like all the players look like these weird characters out of resident evil or something... hella freaky.

was heavy into CS and ut2004 through 2004... but now these gaming places seem a bit weird

maybe i'm getting old? i turn 27 in a few weeks i suppose i've got my own tastes now, i used to always like RTS, driving, and flying games. FPS is too adrenalinecharged for me nowadays, and RTS is just, well, Starcraft was the epitome in my mind. frackin' piece of literature, it is. why hasn't anyone put out a nice space sim? i hope i won't have to download that remake of privateer, just because, well, its retro and fun, but, what about something new??? like a battlestar galactica space sim game??? that would be awesome. something that took the best bits of wing commander and xwing/tiefighter and follows on from the vision of this excellently-reimagined BSG. as more of the story is revealed they can release expansion packs and stuff

oh bugger. 1 virus on my computer. shite. gotta end this rant and vent the sucker out the airlock. the joys of using a PC thank goodness for mcafee, much less annoying than norton. i used to trust norton, but, *sigh* times change... especially how in this decade norton anything mostly screwed up your mac....

Battlestar is on the PS2, a really nice game.

Ok, i've done it, I've axed gentoo and put on XP

As for anti-virus goes i use this Does the job, bloody fast, and it's free. So why did i get rid of gentoo? Because as a desktop it's too buggy and unpolished, that goes for all the WM's out there.
As a console/server it's the dog's bollox Give me a week and OS X will be back i'm sure
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I couldn't take it anymore, windows has to go

Back on me mac mini, with beautiful OS X. things just fall into place on this OS it's like the equilibrium of windows and linux/unix. I think me p4 is going in one of my server cases running gentoo as a file & print server with X11 forwarding, Use me mini for music and web and have me dual G4 for iphoto.

Gotta sell some stuff on Ebay
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heh. XP didn't last very long, did it well, pity i'm on the other side of the world, otherwise i'd be somewhat interested in that asus vento case. green is sorta funky-cool

yeah nothing beats mac os x right now. especially when in a crunch. and older macs i would certainly have written off as obsolete based on my pc-timelines, those macs continue to surprise me.

yeah i've got an old pentium2-333mhz (oc'ed 375mhz) that would rock as a suse or redhat dedicated azureus box, now that new seasons of *ahem* alias, that new show on cbs (threshold) and of course a few more episodes of bsg down the pipeline. i just need a 2nd hand 10/100 ethernet card and a weekend of tinkering and i'd be ready with a headless box i can christen the "tv-on-demand router" eh but i'd need to figure out remote desktop stuff or ssh kind of stuff to go into tha headless box and stuff. have tried VNC stuff on pc and mac but not linux yet
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used the word stuff way to many times in the above post
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If your looking into making a PVR, You want to check out mythTV havent set this up myself so can't comment on how easy it is

As for ssh it really is quite easy, just run sshd on the server to setup the key and make sure sshd starts at runlevel. I think on SuSE it starts automagically whereas on gentoo you have to add it manually. Connecting is then a simple case of opening a term and typing sshd user@192.168.08. User being the username you set the key up on the server and the IP is obviously the IP of the server.

After that it's just a case of learning the CLI, which if your unsure about, typing info will give you a list of commands. If you'll be sshing via winblows you want to get putty which is a term emulator.

Windows aint quite gone, It's still on the HD in the machine, which just needs monitor and keyboard connectingand then i could be playing CS;S once more (getting excited) Damn i hate that game i really do!!!

When and if i dismantle that PC the case is going on Ebay, So i'll give you a bell if you fancy it, It's as new only had it 6 months, Will even give you a discount in view of the postage
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