Apple readying significant Mac mini update - Page 3

Also it's much better to shut down regularly - at start up routine checks are made on the computer making sure it's in order - I never leave my computer on for more than a few days - and that's only if I'm working on a project with a lot of work open. However, a sleeping computer uses very little energy.

Another option is to stop reading (or being influenced by) "rumor" sites and just be satisfied with whatever you buy, possibly being surprised with it being more than you expected for whatever the reason might be.

at this point in time (tuesday 8.30am new york) i thought it prudent to note that apple store is up with no changes.

if i bought a mini today I'd be disappointed if it was anything but the new specification. We want as much for our money as possible. If I was unaware I wouldn't mind - maybe ignorance is bliss!

This outrage, over not knowing which version one will receive, is pathetic.

Apple isn't advertising the new version yet. They aren't asking you to gamble on which version you'll receive.

Nothing dishonest or disreputable is happening here. Just as with any purchase, you get what you are promised. See the specs on your order confirmation page? That's what you'll get. (Or a few lucky people get something better)

If you want the new model, don't place an order for the old one.

This is obvious it's just people who've already ordered who are hearing about this will be disappointed if they don't get the new one - this isn't good for business.

That is what I am doing. The waiting is what sucks.

i think apple must really be very busy with the ipod stuff and getting macintels ready. they've said, f8ck the powerbooks and powermac, fuck the paris keynote.

however, some people/employees involved with the mac mini will probably be getting a good spanking over these screw ups... its very unapple... first a 30-day deal thingy that's yanked a few days in, then this weird "stealth" upgrade to the mac mini.

i really cannot see any financial reasons for this, unless apple just wants to play it really safe by fully clearing the july-sep quarter before dropping prices on previous mac mini models.

i think apple is just slightly nervous about the july-sep quarter, but when the numbers come through they'll definitely be fine. i say next tuesday (October 4th) they'll announce the updated mac minis, slash prices on older models, maybe earlier if things get too far widespread through the internet and customers discover joe/jane-next-door got a faster computer for the same price from the same bloody apple shop.

just nerves at apple, i think, i wish them the best with announcing the mac mini updates in the clear, and addressing the ipod nano issues in a reasonable fashion. i am not apologising or berating them simply because i have no reason to at this stage, just my two cents for now.

remember that apple released the nano early because, yes, as steve said, to some degree, you want to get a head start on christmas but mostly because they wanted to book some strong sales in the last few weeks of september, again to make sure their july-september quarter looks good. if they fuck up july-sep (in the views of analysts) their momentum (halo, os x, ipod, macintel, iHome, iLife, iWork, etc etc...) so preciously gained these past few years will take a big hit...

Don't let it bother you. This isn't a TV. Coming from the PC world you should know that computers there change much faster than they do here.

Good question, but I think it is very small.

As for those complaining about upgrades....grow up.

Tom DeLay ... ha, ha, ha.

I see there are a lot of Apple apologists on the forums. I keep forgetting they can do no wrong.

The real question here is not when Apple will make the updates official but will they? They could conceivably keep this crap up until the Intel versions come out. It's not like a few days or a week can make much if any difference in stock levels. They no longer have the free iPod mini incentive going for students and this unadvertised cracker jack prize is unknown to most outside the forums. I wonder how long before these new versions start popping up on eBay at a premium.

I think you are missing the point and complaining about a lot of nuthin'. Wait for Apple to make an announcement before you go off on it ... you are like the 24 hour news cycle. I'm no apologist, but if you buy a product and you are not ripped off, why are you complaining about versions popping up on eBay?

I think that they will have to announce the upgrade. They might wait until the old ones are out of stick. Most consumers won't be seeing these articles anyway. They just go in and buy the machine. Few consumers even know what machine they have other than (maybe) the manufacturer. This is especially true of low end PC users.

If this article is true, and we don't yet know if it is, then Apple is most likely counting on that.

They are selling the Mini more like a consumer device than a computer. Ever read those disclaimers? Here's one from my Linksys COMMERCIAL Gigabit 8-port workgroup switch I use here at home:

Linksys reserves the right to revise or update its products, software, or documentation without obligation to notify any individual or entity.

This is standard. Some even add that they are:

not obligated to incorporate any changes or improvements into existing products.

Take 1984's post with a grain of salt. He's pissed at me for a disagreement about Core Image and I think this post was a motivated by that.


Companies do this type of thing all the time and it is infact benneficial to consumers. Once a new model has trickled through the supply chain and stocks of the old model are gone, the new model is announced. People that happened to purchase during this brief time period are pleasantly suprised if they receive something better than what they ordered.

If we are Apple appologists on this subject, we must also be appologists for just about every other company in existance.

Example: I ordered the 04 version of Avid Juicy 7 hydraulic disc brakes for my bicycle. When they arrived I discovered that they were infact the 05 model and that they were even better than what I ordered.

Example2: The same thing happened when I ordered an HDTV tuner online, I was shipped a new and improved model.

How dare companies give you something for free.

That's true and it's how other computer companies that I've dealt with work. There's always the chance you could get a better component but you'll never get less than you're promised. It's been my experience with Dell and some local companies as well.

So is all this bitching gonna become the norm if Apple suddenly adopts this approach?

Damn that Apple for not updating enough!

Damn that Apple for updating too often!

Damn that Apple!!

I think the problem here is that there are several fairly big updates all at once. Now that people know about them they will be pissed if they buy a machine and don't get what they figure might be in the very next box on the shelf.

That's understandable. It goes to show why Apple is so upset at the websites that blab this information out.

If we didn't know about this in advance, bought a machine and found that it was better than we expected, we would be thrilled. Now if we buy it, we expect to get the upgrade, and will be pissed instead if we don't.

Big difference.

Ignorance is bliss

Yes, it is.

Sorry, I have no idea who you are. I don't keep track of who I agree with and who I don't. As for Core Image, I never said the Mac mini doesn't support it, only that it is the only model that does not have a GPU that supports accelerating it. Someone kept going on about how the Mac mini does support it which was not being disputed. Maybe that was you. I don't know.

Buying a Mac mini and finding out a week later that you now get more memory standard is one thing. This is quite another. Here, two people can buy an identical Mac mini (according to it's description) and one will get a faster processor, faster hard drive, improved wireless, better graphics support and a vastly superior DVD drive.

Whenever I have bought a Mac or PC in the past they always stuck the new specifications on the box when they changed significantly. Yeah, I'm going to wait but there are going to be a lot of ticked off people who didn't know any better. How could they? There was no announcement.

You also have to wonder how the Apple retailers feel about this. There are already complaints that Apple has been screwing them over by delaying shipments and reducing quantities in favor of their own stores. Many have gone out of business. It sounds like Apple may be the only one to have these improved Mac mini models so perhaps this is just another tactic to kill of the remaining Apple retailers.

There have been a lot of changes at Apple this year. For better or for worse the old Apple is gone.

This reminds me of taking little kids out to eat...

Johnny and Suzzie both order a sandwhich and medium fries. When the waiter brings the meals to the table, Suzzie sees that Jonnie got a large fries even though he ordered a medium.

Waaaa! waaaa! How come he got more?

No way. I'm glad I know. If I had bought one and found out later that others were getting a vastly improved model at the same time I got mine I would be seriously pissed off. I mean, if they were just getting more memory or something I wouldn't be happy about it but it wouldn't be a big deal.

Are you in the market for a Mac mini? Perhaps when they do the same with the PowerBooks and PowerMacs you will be singing a different tune. Otherwise you're just being hypocritical, that's all.

Nope, I'd be mature enough to not expect more than what I ordered.

I really think we've exhausted this subject.

Wow, you must truly be without flaws. It must be nice being perfect.

Then again, maybe this is just pocket change for you. For most a computer is a large expense (yes, even a Mac mini) and is not something to be taken lightly. I find it hard to believe anyone here would not be the least bit upset discovering others were getting so much more for their money simply by luck of the draw.

NO NO NO, we are just saying that the nvidia 5200, which is withion ~2 months of age of the 9000, which has no HAL, can do it -- and the chips are dirt cheap now because there were a glut that never sold before the hi-end -fx line price tanked...and subsequently the 6XXX was released...hell they are up to 7xxx now...apple is a full 4, yes 4 gens behind in video

2 on the pro line, and the TOP END vid card (6800 w/ 256) is a full generation behind and costs $100 more than the average 7XXX...

Too bad the PMs cant use this Not only is the chip newer, you could recover a slot!

Yeah, now we're back to my whining about why Apple has been so tardy about providing the Express bus. Despite what someone else said, a full 50% - at least -of all PC's sold by the end of the year will have Express. Even Gateway (ugh), has a new line of Express machines with the BX case series starting at $649.

Other than Express, It's also up to the board companies to provide them the cards, not just Apple. Apple does it because no one other than ATI is interested. We'll just have to wait for the 1800 series and hope for the best. I don't remember if they will work with AGP or not.

I was sort of out of the TV room, but I think this news just hit CNBC. I wonder what will happen now?

What news?

The $hit will hit the fan? Just a guess.

The fact that Cnet has confirmed from Apple that they are indeed putting updated mac mini's in SOME of the boxes.

I don't really consider the update 'significant' as stated in the thread title though. Still this is weird and could bury Apple in open-box returns of all the old models by people buying/returning them in search of the 'OMG! 1.5GHz' holy grail.

Five minor improvements really add up to a significant overall upgrade to the mini. Nothing to sneeze at, but nothing to hop up and down for either. I'd say this beats the PowerBook upgrade of last January.

i want an updated mac mini...!! \ damn, gotta go and get another flash teaching contract to fund it....

the sh*t that hit the fan will fly around on monday, then tuesday morning apple will make an official announcement and price cuts.... it's the october-december financial quarter now, so whatever apple could have done, really, for the july-sep financial quarter, has been done. now, christmas frenzy time with updated mac minis, ipod nano, new powerbooks in several weeks. just my shots in the dark.

I'd say that's a good bet. I wonder what Apple will do when they finally announce the mini upgrade. They've got boxes out there with both old and new minis in them. Perhaps the serial number tells the truth about the contents.

OMFG Confirmed !!!111!!11!11
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1865183,00.asp


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"It's better than what some companies do frequently as inducements to buy. Dell often says it will 'double the memory' or upgrade the monitor size if you 'buy right now.' Dell at least discloses what it's doing to the customer, but with Apple, I guess sometimes the improvements are already in the box," Golden said.

See Special Report: Mac OS X in the Enterprise

Isn't at least a modicum of trust lost when a company doesn't deliver what it says it will delivereven if the product is a better one than advertised?

"I don't necessarily see this as a 'trust' issue," Golden told eWEEK.com. "I see it as more of an Apple administrative issue. It looks as though they had lots of [computers] lying around and needed to find a way to get rid of them."

Has anyone in the UK actually received one of these updated Mac Minis yet?
I've been holding out for about 10 days now. I've just sold by PC and want to change to a Mac. I won't be able to wait much longer, so by next weekend i'll have to buy one regardless. I cannot go another week without a computer.

Is it reasonable to expect an official announcement this coming Tuesday?
I know its only a minor update but the dual-layer superdrive would be a big bonus for me.

especially if you are not in the US, i would wait... 1.5ghz, 5400rpm drive 80gb and dual layer burning are all nice upgrades. for switching over from your pc, i think you want this upgraded mac mini, it will give you a really nice experience. now with the 64mb vram as well...

Tiger 10.4.2 will be buttery smooth on this machine... even at "just" 512mb ram...