Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
Have you researched Shetline's terms?
Have you understood how order can be produced by energy and the role of randomness in selection and the production of variety?
Do you promise, in the light of your research and for the principle of intellectual honesty, never to raise this point again in an argument about evolution?
Or am I right when I say that the facts aren't important to you after all?
Come on, Hassan i Sabbah, you're smarter than this -- why can't you just admit this is essentailly a metaphysical argument that hinges on 'Random vs. uncorrelated' and leave it at that?
Also, I had a more general thought on this. As the man said, "First they ignore you, then they mock you, then they fight you, then you win." We are well past the ingnoring/mocking, and well into the fighting stage, if this NPR story
is any indication.
When the Smithsonian literally has to call out the goon squad to keep certain ideas off the table it's a pretty good sign that things are falling apart. When fear and intimidation is used by any institution, it's, historically speaking, always been an act of desperation.
I think this battle has essentially been won. Especially when the real issue is metaphysical, and no one dares to admit it.