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post #1 of 18
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hey mac lovers. i've got the classic struggle question between good and evil: should i buy a mac or PC? please name your favorite benefits of using a macintosh. the biggest thing thats preventing me right now is worrying about executing finance programs i will need to use that are only available for windows systems, and i know about VPC, but it seems too slow.
post #2 of 18
[quote]Originally posted by jonathan lee:
<strong>hey mac lovers. i've got the classic struggle question between good and evil: should i buy a mac or PC? please name your favorite benefits of using a macintosh. the biggest thing thats preventing me right now is worrying about executing finance programs i will need to use that are only available for windows systems, and i know about VPC, but it seems too slow.</strong><hr></blockquote>

you're right. don't use VPC as a way to "get by on the mac" . it's not very good. it's not meant to be an everyday use app. I can't stand when I see a salesperson sell a mac using VPC as the big reason. They do it constantly here in NYC. Very sad.

As for benefits?

too many to name. best thing you can do is go and use an iBook either at a compusa or hopefully an apple store. you'll be hooked.

if the software really is only pc and there is no mac alternative unfortunately the iBook may not be for you
post #3 of 18
I assume you already have a computer, can't you run the fanicial software on that and everything else on the iBook?

As for VPC5 sucking fat dick, I think enough people have complained and it will receiving some major updates soon.
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post #4 of 18
nothing to see here.

[ 03-03-2002: Message edited by: janitor ]</p>
post #5 of 18
troll bait.

i propose something new and brilliant... we often get posts like this floating in, why not instead of giving half assed answers (for lack of time, knowledge, effort) or replying with something like my post... or by supplying a barrage of pro-mac links... why don't we make our own FAQ? a collection of important notes from previous thread... a compilation of some of the more insightful comments... so that when this comes up we have something to point to, in classic, brilliant, ArsTechnica style.

it has come to my attention that this isn't really new... nevertheless it is brilliant.

cheers to me for my 300th

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post #6 of 18
If apps are a concern, list the Windows apps you'd use with the Vaio and we'll tell you about Mac equivalents/alternatives.
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post #7 of 18
the iBook is appalingly slow in OS X. I had been considering one about 2 months ago, but it is not really comparable to a PC
price-&gt;performance wise. I would go Vaio.
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post #8 of 18
The iBook is not appallingly slow in OS X.

Anyway... at the iBook's price range, you can get a small Vaio with external CD drive or a
HUGE Vaio with a 15" screen.

Also, the VAIOs have had a history of poor build quality/durability (like the TiBook, but NOT the iBooks which although scratch prone, will NEVER be accused of being flimsy).

I think your biggest concern should be OS. I like the Mac OS so much I would never consider using a PC myself (though I did buy one for the wife -- but that was BEFORE the new iBooks were released).
post #9 of 18
MacOS X on iBook 2001 is slow indeed, I have to admit it, especially when it come to scrolling pages in Acrobat Reader. Maybe Adobe will make this carbon application faster in the next update. Otherwise, the performance is acceptable, it is a G3 machine anyway but this is a dirt cheap notebook. It deserves each and every penny you've spent.
As for Vaio in my opinion, the design, "form factor" is not that appealing as iBook, iBook is simple, clean and elegance while Vaio is just the typical Japanese consumer electronic product, the fancy look might be impressed at first, while gradually, user will find what it sells is just that look ut won't last long. So, Sony has to update the "look" of vaio very often.
post #10 of 18
How many of you who are claiming OS X is slow on an iBook actually have one? If you do have one, how much RAM do you have? OS X is not appallingly slow on an iBook. It runs OS X fine. Trust me. I spend hours a day with my iBook and OS X and I really have no complaints.

If you want appallingly slow, just look at VPC on any computer that's not top of the line G4. That program has been going downhill since 3.0. It's not worth the blank CD its printed on or the bandwidth that gets wasted complaining about how slow it is.

I love my iBook. More than any other computer I've ever had, including a G4 cube. But really, in terms of whether you should buy the Vaio (*** -ugly) or the iBook (a beautiful computer) depends on what you need. If you can't find comparable software on the mac, you should stick with the vaio, despite how decidely uncool that would be.

The iBook is perfect for what many people need and the price is right too. However, if you fall in the minority of people who can't find their software on the mac side, even the fastest G4 wouldn't be right. When it comes down to it, go for the utilitarian argument. Which would be more useful to you?
post #11 of 18
It's not slow at all. I use my iBook as my main machine and it's actually pretty fast. And I've got a 500MHz with 66MHz system bus.
post #12 of 18
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thanks a lot for the responses guys. i've learned some new stuff. still on the fence though. we'll see what else people come up with. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
post #13 of 18
OS X is a slug and that's all there is to it.


If you're running Windows software buy a PeeCee.
post #14 of 18
OS X on my iBook is fine....runs perfectly fast (or fast perfectly).

VPC is slow as hell....I only use it for the few apps which I need on occasion which are not available on Mac (and, I should say, data analysis and graphing apps stink so far for OS X).

I agree that if you have to run stuff that is PC only, get a PC. In my case, I am lucky to have a PC at work that I can use for most of that, so I can use my Macs for writing, spreadsheets, web editing, etc.


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post #15 of 18
[quote]Originally posted by torifile:
<strong>How many of you who are claiming OS X is slow on an iBook actually have one? If you do have one, how much RAM do you have? OS X is not appallingly slow on an iBook. It runs OS X fine. Trust me. I spend hours a day with my iBook and OS X and I really have no complaints. </strong><hr></blockquote>

wow. what a surprise. I thought you said I was the only one who thought OS X on an iBook was slow <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

could it possibly be that others have different standards as to what they consider fast?
post #16 of 18
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
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could it possibly be that others have different standards as to what they consider fast?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly. It depends on what apps they use, but what do you expect from an iBook? If people are trying to use Photoshop or something like that then what do you expect? For the things the targeted iBook audience uses the iBook is great.
post #17 of 18
I would wait for a p4 Vaio and get that..

But the 600mhz ibook with 384mb ram is fine for osx..
post #18 of 18
Yeah, I would wait for the P4 VAIO.....

so I could have it catch fire on my lap!!!
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