Originally posted by strobe
This conversation has entered the surreal.
Sure. People who own Office and Photoshop are going to use WINE to run their production apps on their Macintels...
If you want that kind of frustration, why are you using a Mac to begin with?
I'll echo everything Gene said, plus Chuckler's comments about masochists using desktop Linux. Masochists, and people who like to hack for their own enjoyment. You can pretty much say the same for WINE users (not quite sure which one I am).
The only reasons I got involved with WINE were:
a) It's an interesting project.
b) I'd like to play Windows games in WINE. This objective is achievable, although I don't see myself working on it much until I get a Macintel. I started working on OpenGL and D3D support, but I got distracted. Ultimately I would also like to add HID support (to whatever the Win32 equivalent is, which I think is Direct Input or something).
c) Perhaps SCSI/SAM support could be added so I could run Alcohol 120%. Not a high priority.
d) VfW codec support for MPlayer. May not even require WINE actually.
But lets not fool ourselves that WINE can be used by non-machochist/hackers, or that this solution should ever be pursued. I can provide many reasons why it should not.
The surreal? This was the point to the thread in the beginning. Windows people moving to the Mac.
You say NOT as though you know all of these people.
I recommend that you get to some other sites and read the threads about this issue over there. Try ArsTechnica and Anand, for a start.
What I've been saying is from what PC people over at these, and other sites, are saying about a switch.
Many, if not most, are looking at TRYING a Mac. Not moving to one. Just Trying one.
They are interested because they might be able to dual boot, or run WINE or Crossover.
You dismiss this as though it doesn't exist. Maybe you just don't know that it does.
I've had friends who, for years, kidded me (sometimes, not such kidding) about owning a Mac. Now several are satisfied that THEY might get one, if they can dual boot or run WINE or Crossover.
Don't be so smug about OS X. We think it's better, some of them even think it's better. But they are NOT ready to leave Windows.
They want a taste of the Mac, they don't want a seven course meal.
You obviously don't know anything about Crossover, as you refuse to even discuss it. WINE is a pain. Installing it is a pain. Installing programs to run under it is a pain. But Crossover is not. It is very easy. Anyone can do it. Installing programs under it is also very easy.
Apparently few bothered to go to the link I provided earlier.