Originally posted by Elixir
roadmap, leave, just leave because you have no clue what you are saying.
microsoft just released a list of 200 plus games that are already backwards compatible with hundreds more to come.
Ok... I'll give you this, but I can still look at the list and see games I liked to play on XBox that aren't compatible.
pay to go online, yes. have you seen the new online system? its the best online experience you can prob have, its even better than PC. it's a centeralized service like no other. 50 dollars a year? big whoop.
the ps3 wont have this. the ps3 is leaving online up to the developers, essentially they can do what they want and charge what they want. judging from the current ps2 online thats not a good decision.
He's talking about the fact that MS is forcing even single player games to have an online component. MS is trying to force people that don't want to pay for online to *HAVE* to pay for online. This is what he is talking about. He's not talking about the quality of online service.
I don't know if MS is *FORCING* people to sign-up for XBoxLive on the 360 to play any games, but you strayed so far away from his topic that it's not even funny.
the only thing thats going to be overpriced is the playsation. at 500 dollars for just the system...500 now will get you the 360, two games and an extra controller.
As far as I know, the $500 price point is no confirmed. It's just speculation. It's like me saying:
"I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend that XBOX720 is going to be $1000 so that only rich people can buy it. I heard that Bill Gates himself said that he wants rich snobs to be able to sneer at the lowly poor people that can't afford a mere $1K gamnig system."
up and down developers praise the simplicity to program for the 360 so maybe your missing something there.
I've heard that development on XBox360 AND the Playstation3 sucks. XBox development was aparently easier. But that's just what I hear.
Seriously cite sources of this 'praise' if you want people to take it seriously. Just drop us some links, or else we'll write it off as you just making crap up.
The thing that I don't get is how this is even a factor, based on your later comments in your post? You make it sound like it's so easy to program for the XBox360 that there will be 1000s of exclusive titles due to the ease of creation, but then you later on say that most games will be cross-console from third parties...
why do i keep hearing this from the playstation camp "xbox doesn't have any games" wtf are you talking about?
this time around basically both systems will have the same games besides exclusive titles.
True. This time around there will be more cross-console games. But that statement doesn't convey that well. Your statement sounds more like, "They will be the same except for their differences."
the exclusive battle consist of a hand full of decent playstaion games and metal gear solid vs halo and a few other decent games.
grand theft auto (what really made ps2 great) will be released on both systems at the same time.
Have a link? GTA games have been coming to PS2 first and then XBox later for this entire past console generation. Why is that going to change now? Sony give up on wooing Rockstar to give them exclusivity for a few months? Seriously. If the XBox360 is so great, then people will just wait the extra 6 months for it to be released on a better console even if it comes to PS3 first.
Metal Gear Solid will probably end up cross-console, with just a delay. That's only possibly though. Have they ported MGS3 to XBox at all? I remember that the rain in the XBox version of MGS2 sucked because they just emulated the PS2 code for it rather than porting it to XBox or something like that.
controller: 360, hands down lol
system:based on sheer numbers ps3
3rd party games: tied
exlusives: personal preference.
blu-ray is up in the air.
Online, yea. 360 will have a better online experience. But keep in mind that I have fun gaming on my PS2 without going online at all. This may not be a deciding factor.
Controller? The PS3 controller that was demoed isn't even a final design. It may look nothing like that. This is why people need to settle down about deciding who has 'won the console war' when two of the contenders aren't even in the ring yet. It's just idle speculation.
System? You mean 'installed base?' I'm not sure what you're talking about here.
Price? IIRC Sony hasn't announced an official price yet, so this is more idle speculation. You might as well be making up magic numbers and using arcane potions to determine who has won the console war. Maybe you could find that Russian psychic that wanted to sue NASA for screwing up the cosmos when they crashed into that comet. Maybe she can tell you who has won before the war has started.
Third Party Games, yea. There will be massive 3rd party support for both platforms.
At least you didn't go on a flame about the exclusives being better or worse. One note on exclusives though... Things like Xenosaga and Final Fantasy will probably be PS3 only. There are a lot of fans of those series, this could be a deciding factor as well. But it's hard to argue that because how does one determine which fan bases are larger?
nintendo has great first party games, it failed because of the lack of support from other developers.
I don't think that they failed. Had they failed, they would be like Sega now, or bought by Microsoft/Sony to make exclusives. We will see how they do this generation of consoles, but it looks like they are targetting a completely different audience with their platforms like Revolution and DS. And as I've stated in another post, if the price is right, people will end up with either a XBox360+Nintendo Rev combo or a PS3+Nintendo Rev combo. I know a lot of people that did this during this generation, including myself.