Originally posted by the cool gut
You see this is the problem - this doesn't seem like your regular 1st run production problems - it seems a lot like they tried to shit this puppy out and do a world wide launch before christmas. You've got problems with power supplies, heating issues, controllers not hooking up, Xbox live crashing - games crashing. True, it's too early to tell the full impact, but it's a bit of a mess if you ask me. If it's such an isolated incident, then why don't they release numbers to prove it?
If the XBox360 were truely as fucked as you want us to believe, then there wouldn't be people that have XBox360's that are working without problems. Some of these problems might not even be design related, but just production problems or a shipment of bad parts. Remember that run of bad capacitors in some motherboards a couple of years ago? Did you blame the motherboard companies for 'trying to shit those puppies out?'
I'll admit that Microsoft probably rushed this out the door, but from your statements I'd expect to go to a store and see mountains of XBox360's behind the return desk. Somehow I don't thing this is the case. As far as number, Microsoft probably doesn't have the kind of numbers you are talking about. They probably don't feel that they need to release 'numbers to prove' something to a handful of bloggers and people bitching on forums.
We just have to wait and see what the full effects of this will be. Anything at this point is just idle speculation. And if you remember correctly, the Japanese release of the Playstation 2 was plagued with problems, but I don't think that the Playstation 2 turned out a failure...
Again - you've got a console which is really just a 1.5 upgrade, it certainly doesn't help releasing games which are 1.5 upgrades as well. They are selling a 360, but people are getting a 180.
You also have to allow time for the developers to get used to the new APIs and the new technology. You're never going to see a release title the is able to leverage the full power of a gaming console. Give it 1-1.5 years before games start to utilize all of the power that the XBox360. The same goes for the PS3. I don't know about the Revolution though. Nintendo's first-party titles may be able to leverage a good portion of it's power since a lot of that is done in-house, but I suspect it will suffer the same problem (of needing time).
You also have to remember that these companies are over-promising what they will deliver, with the possible exception of Nintendo. Sony and Microsoft are both hyping up their consoles. I was disappointed at the last round of consoles after all of the hype about how ultra-realistic they would be. This doesn't mean that the consoles were failtures. It just means that people are going to end up realizing what the hype was and what the reality is after they finally get their hands on the consoles.
Microsoft's biggest problem is that their image stinks - escpecially among their target audience. The last Xbox was a turd, and just a regular P.C. They have followed up with an equally hideous design - which looks more like a tampon than a gaming console. But their biggest weakness, is that they are a software company, not a hardware company - and the excessively buggy launch proves it. Selling a new console isn't that tough when there have been no updates for 4 or 5 years. And remember, the PS2 is almost 2 years older than the original Xbox. Lastly - Microsoft has to make money - they can't fuck the dog any longer. Otherwise, this may be the last Xbox. Should be pretty fun to watch - will the Xbox get "dreamcasted"? - time will tell, time will tell.
Playstation 2 was a money-loser for Sony when they first released it. It was only after they were able to refine their production processes that they turned that around. The fact that they are a software company has nothing to do with it. Microsoft designs excellent mice, there is no reason they can't do well in the console race. They may make mistakes and need to learn from them, but I don't see the 'they are software, and will always only be sofware' mentality that you possess. i agree that the XBox design was horrid, but there is nothing wrong with the XBox360 design. I'll admit that it's a question of personal taste, but it's not like the Playstation 2 is winning any beauty pagents either (I really like the PSTwo's design though mostly due to its size).