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post #1 of 61
1/4/02 at 4:57pm
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this just appeared, looks pretty convicing


New iMac and Powermac specs ...and a surprise?(01/04/2002)
We have recieved the following e-mail with alleged prices and specs of the new iMacs and
Powermacs. The information in this e-mail supports and validates other information that we have,
although we question some details such as X.2 being ready in time. The numbers beside the
names are alleged CompUSA part numbers.

It has also come to our attention that organizers have been placing a strip of double-sided tape
underneath every tenth chair in the area will Jobs' will be presenting his key note. "Look under
your seat"? It has happened before... all we can say is: take the time to becareful where you sit.

G4 Mac M9541LL/A
1200 MHz PPC G4 256 MB PC DDR ram 60 GB HD nVidia MX2 32mb 24x CDRW GBEthernet 56K
Modem Wireless Ready (Airport) Keyboard Mouse Mac OS X.2 Options: Airport/Gigawire
CompUSA Price $1699

G4Mac M9571LL/A
1400 MHz PPC G4 512 MB PC DDR ram 80 GB HD nVidia MX2 32mb DVDR-SUPERDRIVE
GBEthernet/GW 56K Modem Wireless (Airport) Keyboard Mouse Mac OS X.2
CompUSA Price $2499

G4Mac M9591LL/A
1400 (2X) GHz PPC G4 1024 MB PC DDR ram 120 GB HD nVidia MX2 64mb/TWIN
DVDR-SUPERDRIVEII GBEthernet/GW 56K Modem Wireless (Airport) Keyboard Mouse Mac OS X.2
CompUSA Price $3499

iMac M8545LL/A
750 MHz PPC G3 256 MB PC 100 SDRAM 20 GB HD 14Ó CRT ATI Rage 128 (16MB) 24x CDROM
Ethernet 56K Modem Wireless Ready (Airport) Keyboard Mouse Mac OS X Options: Graphite,
Indigo and Classic
CompUSA Price $799

iMac M3731LL/A
1 GHz PPC G3 256 MB PC 133 SDRAM 40 GB HD 14.1Ó LCD Display ATI RADEON 7000 (16 MB) 8x
DVDROM Ethernet 56K Modem Wireless Ready (Airport) Keyboard Mouse Mac OS X
CompUSA Price $1299

IMac M3732LL/A
1 GHz PPC G3 256 MB PC 133 SDRAM 40 GB HD 14.1Ó LCD Display ATI RADEON 7000 (16 MB) 8x
CDRW Ethernet 56K Modem Wireless Ready (Airport) Keyboard Mouse Mac OS X
CompUSA Price $1299

IMac M3733LL/A
1 GHz PPC G3 512 MB PC 133 SDRAM 60 GB HD 14.1Ó LCD Display ATI RADEON 7000 (16 MB) 8x
CDRW/DVDROM Ethernet 56K Modem Wireless Ready (Airport) Keyboard Mouse Mac OS X
CompUSA Price $1499

You heard it here first...
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post #2 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:02pm
looks too good to be true.. espcially the iMac price points, considering they have a Radeon 7k and a LCD... and 10.2 is not ready yet, supposedly.

Would be great though.
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post #3 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:07pm
What gets me is why would Apple only have 10.2 on the G4 iMacs and not on the lower end, original iMacs. That just does not make sense as Apple would put 10.2 on all there computers. If Spymac is right, I will have all my faith in them when MWNY comes.

Also, AI says that 10.2 "is still in early development."

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post #4 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:07pm
[quote] G4Mac M9591LL/A
1400 (2X) GHz PPC G4 1024 MB PC DDR ram 120 GB HD nVidia MX2 64mb/TWIN
DVDR-SUPERDRIVEII GBEthernet/GW 56K Modem Wireless (Airport) Keyboard Mouse Mac OS X.2
CompUSA Price $3499 <hr></blockquote>

Shit, I'll take one!

Why 2 iMacs the same price? Or is that a BTO that will be in stock for CompUSA? Kinda of "either or" type of thing.

I hope so
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post #5 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:09pm
[quote] iMac M8545LL/A
750 MHz PPC G3 256 MB PC 100 SDRAM 20 GB HD 14" CRT ATI Rage 128 (16MB) 24x CDROM
Ethernet 56K Modem Wireless Ready (Airport) Keyboard Mouse Mac OS X Options: Graphite,
Indigo and Classic
CompUSA Price $799 <hr></blockquote>

Bogus, why would they reduce the size of the CRT iMac? They wouldn't do that even if the LCD's came in 14s
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post #6 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:10pm
It's a 15" with viewable 14", right?
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post #7 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:10pm
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Is it me or is anyone else felling a dejavu?

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post #8 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:12pm
I can see that they read this board!!

If you order M8545LL/A you will be surprised to see how small the package will be
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post #9 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:15pm
[quote]Originally posted by JLL:
<strong>I can see that they read this board!!

If you order M8545LL/A you will be surprised to see how small the package will be </strong><hr></blockquote>

Should'nt you Danes be asleep by now?
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post #10 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:17pm
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on first reading this all seemed to ring true. After reading all the rumours flying around all the specs seem to fit. The G5 has always be a processor for the mid/late year. As someone said elsewhere, Jobs can now stand there and say that he has a theoretical 2.8 Ghz machine, something PC's don't. I also don't believe they would of replaced the CRT iMacs unless they could have kept the prices the same with LCD's. Sadly the iWalk seems to ring true if all this is right, what would apple be without producing a duff product once a year. It won't sell, I know I once owned a Newton....a bit like a breadmaking machine....great for a while but the novelty wears off.
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post #11 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:19pm
[quote]Originally posted by joejoe:
<strong>on first reading this all seemed to ring true. After reading all the rumours flying around all the specs seem to fit. The G5 has always be a processor for the mid/late year. As someone said elsewhere, Jobs can now stand there and say that he has a theoretical 2.8 Ghz machine, something PC's don't. I also don't believe they would of replaced the CRT iMacs unless they could have kept the prices the same with LCD's. Sadly the iWalk seems to ring true if all this is right, what would apple be without producing a duff product once a year. It won't sell, I know I once owned a Newton....a bit like a breadmaking machine....great for a while but the novelty wears off.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Anyone else think this guy is a troll??

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post #12 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:20pm
Those iMac specs seem familiar...


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post #13 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:20pm
Those are fresh out of the CompUSA debacle in the AI chatroom two days ago.

I wonder if those product number are bogus.
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post #14 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:20pm
[quote]Originally posted by mmicist:
<strong>

Should'nt you Danes be asleep by now?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well it is almost 2.30 but I won't go to bed right now.
JLL

95% percent of the boat is owned by Microsoft, but the 5% Apple controls happens to be the rudder!
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post #15 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:21pm
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[quote]Originally posted by mmicist:
<strong>

Shouldn´t you Danes be asleep by now?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I am busy not reading Niklas Luhmann "Soziale Systeme" for my exam next week. Those of you who have a university degree in anything computer related must know him or at least it would be a good read for you.

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post #16 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:22pm
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[quote]Originally posted by psantora:
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Anyone else think this guy is a troll??

-Paul</strong><hr></blockquote>

hey, not fair. I'm just passing on info which i thought someone might what to see. I can have an opnion can't i.
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post #17 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:22pm
Spymac isn't making this stuff up. It looks like people send them information and they post it, regardless on whether its true or not.

They are a rumor site. Therefore, they post rumors. Plus, when was the last time the rumor sites were right? : <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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post #18 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:23pm
<a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000499" target="_blank">Man those numbers look awfully familiar.</a>

Also, what is a twin superdrive?

Spymac: you heard it here second.

SdC

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My signature irritates people. However, my cat can still jump a watermelon, and the Apollo is the next chip coming to the Powermac line. Although, at this point, I'd believe that Cyrix is the next...
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post #19 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:25pm
Where's suckfuldotcom? Maybe he emailed them, or his source emailed them?

[guess not]

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post #20 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:25pm
[quote]Originally posted by suckfuldotcom:
<strong><a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000499" target="_blank">Man those numbers look awfully familiar.</a>

Spymac: you heard it here second.

SdC</strong><hr></blockquote>

And they didn't even check the order numbers.

M8545LL/A exists today - it's Mac OS X
JLL

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post #21 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:25pm
Fran, exactly what I think.
As I've said before.. I welcome Spymac as a new rumor site.. they are fresh and seem to have update lots...
And about the accuracy of them.. who cares. Look at MOSR, that doesn't stop them.
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post #22 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:26pm
If these are the specs for the new iMacs, what will the PowerMac be? Can we say G5?
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post #23 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:28pm
[quote]Originally posted by Mac_OS_X_Addict:
<strong>If these are the specs for the new iMacs, what will the PowerMac be? Can we say G5?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I guess you missed the first 3 paragraphs of the post-

[quote] G4 Mac M9541LL/A
1200 MHz PPC G4 256 MB PC DDR ram 60 GB HD nVidia MX2 32mb 24x CDRW GBEthernet 56K
Modem Wireless Ready (Airport) Keyboard Mouse Mac OS X.2 Options: Airport/Gigawire
CompUSA Price $1699

G4Mac M9571LL/A
1400 MHz PPC G4 512 MB PC DDR ram 80 GB HD nVidia MX2 32mb DVDR-SUPERDRIVE
GBEthernet/GW 56K Modem Wireless (Airport) Keyboard Mouse Mac OS X.2
CompUSA Price $2499

G4Mac M9591LL/A
1400 (2X) GHz PPC G4 1024 MB PC DDR ram 120 GB HD nVidia MX2 64mb/TWIN
DVDR-SUPERDRIVEII GBEthernet/GW 56K Modem Wireless (Airport) Keyboard Mouse Mac OS X.2
CompUSA Price $3499 <hr></blockquote>
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post #24 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:29pm
Ah, I notice the "SuperDrive 2" who mentioned that a week or so ago?

Also, what graphics card is that?
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post #25 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:29pm
[quote]Originally posted by joejoe:
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hey, not fair. I'm just passing on info which i thought someone might what to see. I can have an opnion can't i.</strong><hr></blockquote>

notice, I didnt call you a troll, i was just asking other people's opinions (yeah i know, covering my ass)

I'll admit, I didn't even go to spymac b/c I dont want to give their site hits. I also rememebred these specs from when SdC posted them. So, it was just first impression. Sorry...

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post #26 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:31pm
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they may have been published elsewhere and sorry if i've offended anyone buy doing so again. But don't you think that as specs they do ring true if you take into account what apple has done in the past. To be fair to Apple there quite impressive leaps and introductions. If you added iwalk, iphoto, etc to that i'd be a pretty good show. It would be been realistic. All this talk of G5's makes me laugh
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post #27 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:36pm
I am hardly blown away. How is this beyond the rumor sites? I don't think so.
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post #28 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:37pm
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[quote]Originally posted by JLL:
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And they didn't even check the order numbers.

M8545LL/A exists today - it's Mac OS X</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh the irony They just made another iWalk They are either royally screwed by those who give them the rumors or they try really hard (the iMac specs are some of the most realistic I have seen) and screw up on the details every time.
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post #29 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:39pm
The low end Powermac WOULD DEFINITELY have a Superdrive standard! Christ!
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post #30 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:40pm
For God's sake it is "SpyMac IS up to tricks again" not....ARE......it is singular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post #31 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:40pm
I think the people at Apple generally underestimate the degree to which us fanatics invest in their announcements. We are far too high-strung and we've paid too much already emotionally to ever be satisfied. The best sex of your life couldn't live up to these expectations.
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1/4/02 at 5:43pm
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[quote]Originally posted by apple.otaku:
<strong>I am hardly blown away. How is this beyond the rumor sites? I don't think so.</strong><hr></blockquote>

i have a feeling there is a new product up their sleeves, whether it's iWalk i don't know. But i think apples idea of blowing you away is more the impact of new designs and lifestyle than power. To the layman in the street a funky new iMac and a new lifestyle product will look great in magazine and the news. The apple site may well be reading all this and reacting to it, but when it come down to it it is marketed to the average pc user not the mac powerusers like ourselves. These new products with blown away the average person if only on style. It all makes sense if you think different instead of expecting the impossible.
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post #33 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:45pm
I don't care how cool the new iMac design is, if it still has a G3 I'm not going to touch it.
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post #34 of 61
1/4/02 at 5:48pm
[quote]Originally posted by apple.otaku:
<strong>I don't care how cool the new iMac design is, if it still has a G3 I'm not going to touch it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ditto.

Now my brother on the other hand. I can convince him to get anything

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1/4/02 at 5:56pm
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[quote]Originally posted by apple.otaku:
<strong>I don't care how cool the new iMac design is, if it still has a G3 I'm not going to touch it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

if Apple don't have a G5 (which i'm convined they don't) they can't stick a G4 in a iMac. It would take sales away from the PowerMac G4. Yes, they could put a low Mhz G4 in but then everyone would moan that it wasn't a GHz one. I use a 867 G4 at the studio and an 400Mhz G3 at home. To be fair theres not a gaping speed gap between them, the G4's faster but i really notice the difference. Not everyone wants to render and photoshop on a iMac, i do that on my G4. I'd be chuffed at home with a 1Ghz G3.
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1/4/02 at 6:28pm
[quote]Originally posted by joejoe:
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if Apple don't have a G5 (which i'm convined they don't) they can't stick a G4 in a iMac. It would take sales away from the PowerMac G4. Yes, they could put a low Mhz G4 in but then everyone would moan that it wasn't a GHz one. I use a 867 G4 at the studio and an 400Mhz G3 at home. To be fair theres not a gaping speed gap between them, the G4's faster but i really notice the difference. Not everyone wants to render and photoshop on a iMac, i do that on my G4. I'd be chuffed at home with a 1Ghz G3.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Of course Apple can put the G4 in the iMac even if the PM is still a G4.

There are lots of things that differentiate the 2 of them. They have done this before with the G3 PowerMacs.
Also, if they add DDR to the PMs that would be yet another thing that would differentiate them.

Haveing a G4 in an iMac is CRUCIAL. AltiVec is a GREAT technology, but currtently other then OS X, other Apple products, and Adobe Apps (Maya too). Developer support for AltiVec is weak. The reason for this is a lack of PCs that can take advantage of this. If the iMac got AltiVec, it would increase the installed base of AltiVec greatly, thereby making it worthwhile for programmers to code for it. BINGO, instant speed boost for ALL G4 macs.

There are other reasons why an iMac+G4 is a good idea, but I can't think of them at this moment...

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post #37 of 61
1/4/02 at 6:31pm
The video cards specs look whacked to me.

No stock Nvidia GeForce 3 card?

Worse: No Nvidia GeForce3 Ti 500 card OEM?

More Worser: No Nvidia GeForce 4 AGP 8x card?

I was really hoping for a 128 MB high end Nvidia card!

The last batch of Quicksilver G4s had stock OEM Geforce 3's in the top-end 867 G4's...

If Apple is "serious about gamers" they better put a freakin' bad@ss card in there!

I know I can BTO somekind of card maybe, but it backorders the Mac's ship time and Apple RAPES customers on custom configs! Ever buy RAM from Apple? Bend over....
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1/4/02 at 6:31pm
those specs are fantastic, except for the price difference between the first and second PM, whats up with that. 200 mhz justifies almost $1000?

I don't think so.
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post #39 of 61
1/4/02 at 6:32pm
if Apple don't have a G5 (which i'm convined they don't) they can't stick a G4 in a iMac. It would take sales away from the PowerMac G4


why does everybody say this.....tower and all-in-one users are different...one likes to upgrade and add on, the other doesn't.....i want an all-in-one with a G4 chip and superdrive.....will i get it at MWSF?? i don't know, but if the only way i can get a G4 and superdrive is with a tower...then i will wait a while longer....selling an iMac with good features doesn't steal sells from apple towers, it steals sales from dell and compac and hp...g

and whats with the 14" LCD??

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1/4/02 at 6:34pm
Do people really want to see the iMacs down at 500-733 MHz G4s? That's what they'd be if they made their way into these machines. Any faster and they'd directly compete with the Power Macs if the G4s started at around 800 MHz.

I'd rather see a 1 GHz G3 iMac than a 700 MHz G4 in the iMac. If we see the 1 GHz G3 iMac, and G5s are ready for MWNY, then we will see 1 GHz G4 iMacs then.

This is of course a blank point if Apple somehow manages to get G5s out the door on Monday, but I doubt it.
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