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From what little I've seen -- since the keynote is still in progress -- iLife '06 looks great!

iPhoto: Photocasting, calendar creation, better books, postcards. We'll have to see how this Photocasting thing works and how well visitors will be able to use it.

iMovie: FINALLY, multiple projects open at once!

iDVD: Groovy little add-ons.

Still waiting on Garageband and iWeb.....
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I'm kind of disappointed, to tell the truth. Too much focus on podcasting, photocasting, whatever casting--but other than iPhoto, it doesn't seem like there is much besides that added. And even iPhoto it's mostly just the speed that appeals to me.

Garage Band is my favorite app, and I really hoped something cool would be added. But I don't use to record iChat interviews, or podcast.
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Originally posted by D.J. Adequate
I'm kind of disappointed, to tell the truth. Too much focus on podcasting, photocasting, whatever casting--but other than iPhoto, it doesn't seem like there is much besides that added. And even iPhoto it's mostly just the speed that appeals to me.

Garage Band is my favorite app, and I really hoped something cool would be added. But I don't use to record iChat interviews, or podcast.

What new things did you expect then?

Frankly, this was probably the biggest update to iLife so far. Some people have found iPhoto's greatest fault to be speed...those people should be happy (if Steve jobs is to be believed...I can't imagine iPhoto being slow on a 2GHz dual-core iMac)...iPhoto also gained fullscreen editing, easy-to-use CoreImage filter effects and neat-o printing options. This update should bring it on par with Picassa in terms of speed...and exceed Picassa in terms of everything else.

Same with iMovie...themes, CoreVideo effects...this is pretty big stuff for a consumer movie-editing program.

iWeb seems like the easiest web site creation tool out there. If you're into hand-coding sites and loath cookie-cutter templates, this is probably not for you though.

If you got iLife '05, you could probably skip this update and not feel too left out...but if you're still using '04, 79$ for this suite is a steal.

iWork on the other hand probably isn't worth the upgrade if you got '05.
post #4 of 71
The unified interface is worth the upgrade alone. Finally, all iLife apps will look the same and act the same (hopefully).

iWeb is completely new and iPhoto was apparently rewritten from scratch (if that is to be believed). The use of CoreImage/CoreVideo in iPhoto and iMovie is excellent news (not so excellent for me and others with old computers and old GPUs but excellent for people that have the computer power to handle it).
post #5 of 71
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What new things did you expect then?

I don't know what I expected. But I guess I'm spoiled since Jobs managed to surprise me the last two times. Some support for notation is my biggest wish, both to enter musical notation into GB and get it back.

On the other hand, now that I've had a chance to see the interface changes I'm a bit more impressed. It looks like a lot of work has gone into core things like speed and interface, which is cool. I just wasn't excited by the "...casting" focus of the demo.

And, I enough of a sucker I just ordered iLife and iWork--and even paid for overnight shipping. So I guess I'll find out if it impresses me in person or not.
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Will the individual applications within iLife be released as updates (or at an update price) to our existing versions? I think the new iPhoto updates look pretty cool and would satisfy my photo editing requirements, I'm just not sure that i want to pay full price for a few small upgrades. What do you guys think?
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Does anyone have any idea when these will be available to buy in the store? I called 2 stores and they don't have any idea when we can buy them. I know it was just released, but is there a normal lag time to get them in the retail stores?
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post #8 of 71
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Originally posted by D.J. Adequate
[BSome support for notation is my biggest wish, both to enter musical notation into GB and get it back. [/B]

I'd love that too. I use the free Finale Notepad instead.

BTW, I noticed people saying that iWeb requires .Mac (was in another thread and I can't find it now), but it actually says: "iWeb publishing requires Internet and webserver access (.Mac recommended)." That doesn't sound like it requires .Mac.
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Quick Garageband question: GB 2 introduced an (approximate) 35 minutes limitation in recording length (due to the number of bars it was programmed to accept as the maximum). Anyone know if this has been fixed in GB 3?
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Does anyone know if iPhoto has non-destructive photo editing like Aperture?
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Does anyone know if iPhoto has non-destructive photo editing like Aperture?

It uses CoreImage for filters...so I don't see how it wouldn't. Although it might not for performance reasons (older Macs would probably choke if you on images with a few filters.)
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Does anyone know if iPhoto has non-destructive photo editing like Aperture?

No it converts to an intermediary format(JPEG is one) before applying edits.
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idvd 06 supports 3rd party burners. Which ones? I can't get through apple's site. Needs quiktime 7. I can't download because I don't have Tiger.
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idvd 06 supports 3rd party burners. Which ones? I can't get through apple's site. Needs quiktime 7. I can't download because I don't have Tiger.

It doesn't specify exactly and you only need 10.3.9 for QT 7.
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Does anyone have any idea when these will be available to buy in the store? I called 2 stores and they don't have any idea when we can buy them. I know it was just released, but is there a normal lag time to get them in the retail stores?

If you can you might as well order it from Apple directly because it will be flying off shelves for the next couple of weeks making it hard for you to get a copy.
post #16 of 71
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Originally posted by D.J. Adequate

And, I enough of a sucker I just ordered iLife and iWork--and even paid for overnight shipping. So I guess I'll find out if it impresses me in person or not.

You and me both...
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post #17 of 71
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You and me both...

I'd make 3. I skipped iWork though. I'll stick to Office.
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post #18 of 71
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I'm really looking forward to moving my blog from Blurty over to my .Mac account. I'd also like to spruce up my existing .Mac site and add a few things. It looks like iWeb will be good for all that. I'm excited to get it!
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post #19 of 71
the things I would have liked are extra audio channels in imovie and maybe keyframe support.

iweb sounds cool too but even if I opened up a .mac account I would still have to pay my current host to redirect, I know apple really is'nt in that business but I wish they would include a solution for your own domain name without .mac attached to it.
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I wish there weren't such a focus on .mac ~ I've never really liked the idea of $99 a year for it. It appears that iWeb will publish to any webserver, but still this .mac dependence is a bother. It would be great if there was an option within prefrences that would switch all .mac syncing to your own webserver. That's an option that I could really lay hold of.

You know iTunes ported well over to windows... I'm quite sure they have an iLife on windows room somewhere in Cupertino. With the stuff they are doing for photocasting they ought to ship iLife for windows and shake up the pc world even more.

I've read so many articles about how great ms office is at working between the apps ~ iLife (w/ iwork too) makes ms office look cumbersome. Apple integration is wonderful! I'm looking forward to iLife 06 on my new macbook in february...
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post #21 of 71
Im looking forward to see if iweb can be used that way, right now I am publishing my webpages just using basic html so they are pretty lame http://www.mercury7.com so I would really like a template that I could easily manipulate to make my site interactive without hiring a web guru.
post #22 of 71
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Originally posted by aecheylon
Quick Garageband question: GB 2 introduced an (approximate) 35 minutes limitation in recording length (due to the number of bars it was programmed to accept as the maximum). Anyone know if this has been fixed in GB 3?

You may already know this but, recording length is also a factor of the tempo set, so if you are recording audio or midi only you can halve the tempo (i.e.q = 60 instead of = 120) and this will double the recording length, halve it again and it is quadrupled etc. This is an issue if you need to drop loops on, since they adjust to the tempo, but there are work-arounds to this. So it is quite possible to record over an hours worth of music.
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Originally posted by ChrisG
You and me both...

Wow, mines scheduled to arrive in about an hour. Way to go Apple. Last year it took a week even though I ordered it the day of the show.
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Originally posted by D.J. Adequate
Wow, mines scheduled to arrive in about an hour. Way to go Apple. Last year it took a week even though I ordered it the day of the show.

Mine seems to have shipped also.
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Originally posted by D.J. Adequate
Wow, mines scheduled to arrive in about an hour. Way to go Apple. Last year it took a week even though I ordered it the day of the show.

Dawg!!!

Mine shipped today!! I am pumped about iLife '06!!!
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post #26 of 71
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Dawg!!!

Mine shipped today!! I am pumped about iLife '06!!!

Mine arrived, but I'm still struggling to get it installed. This sucker eats even more hard drive space than before, so I'm having to do a massive cleanup of my hard drive.
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Anyone find any good reviews out there yet?
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post #28 of 71
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Anyone find any good reviews out there yet?

I understand that iWeb does not support FTP at this time. SUCKS!
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post #29 of 71
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I am curious: When it generates RSS feed(s), does it generate a new one for each application. IOW, does the blog get one, the podcast get another, the photocast get yet another? Or do they all share the same one?
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iWeb looks cool, but does it have a code view?

I understand that the target audiance isnt going to use code, but I would like to have the ability to tweak/add things in code that may not be in the point-and-click feature set yet.
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Desperate to get my hands on both iLife and iWork... won't be released in Japan for another 5 bloody weeks! Both the new machines are available today, though.

Why does Apple not offer an upgrade rate for these, despite the already low price? It feels rather odd buying the same software every year...

 

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post #32 of 71
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Originally posted by Bergermeister
Why does Apple not offer an upgrade rate for these, despite the already low price? It feels rather odd buying the same software every year...

That is a good question. I have never thought about it that way.
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post #33 of 71
Since all macs come with it build in i think they regard the normal price as an upgrade... That could be the rationale for iLife at least.
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post #34 of 71
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Desperate to get my hands on both iLife and iWork... won't be released in Japan for another 5 bloody weeks! Both the new machines are available today, though.

Why does Apple not offer an upgrade rate for these, despite the already low price? It feels rather odd buying the same software every year...

Well, lets price it out as seperate apps

GrageBand: the software needed or time spent adding art, editing, compressing and coding backend RSS for podcasts: worth at least $50 or $20 for an upgrade unless you dont value your time...and imovie scoring, a great value-added

iPhoto, if it preforms as good as it did in the keynote, worth $19.99 or $9.99 for an upgrade

iMovie: tweaks, multi-projects open, pre-made 3d toys, not much besides eye candy, $9.99 upgrade $50 new

iDVD (yawn) 3rd party burner support (which SHOULD HAVE been there long ago) free upgrade $20 new.

iWeb, or equivalent point-and-click tool No upgrade $50 new

that is ~$190 new
or $40 for upgrades and $50 for iWeb = $90 so it kindof is an upgrade price.

iLife has two huge things going for it, number one is integration, any asset in any app. with ease, number two is consistant UI.

iLife 06 is a really solid upgrade from the spec sheet
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Well, lets price it out as seperate apps

GrageBand: the software needed or time spent adding art, editing, compressing and coding backend RSS for podcasts: worth at least $50 or $20 for an upgrade unless you dont value your time...and imovie scoring, a great value-added

iPhoto, if it preforms as good as it did in the keynote, worth $19.99 or $9.99 for an upgrade

iMovie: tweaks, multi-projects open, pre-made 3d toys, not much besides eye candy, $9.99 upgrade $50 new

iDVD (yawn) 3rd party burner support (which SHOULD HAVE been there long ago) free upgrade $20 new.

iWeb, or equivalent point-and-click tool No upgrade $50 new

that ia ~$190 new
or $30 for upgrades and $50 fr iWeb=80 sp it kindof is an upgrade price.

iLife has two huge things going for it, number one is integration, any asset in any app. with ease, number two is consistant UI.

iLife 06 is a really solid upgrade from the spec sheet

iWeb should be ~ $35 like Rapid Weaver <-- has a lot more features
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iWeb should be ~ $35 like Rapid Weaver <-- has a lot more features

you may be right, but it doesnt change the metric that much.
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post #37 of 71
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you may be right, but it doesnt change the metric that much.

I agree(r) (haha)!

iLife '06 is an excellent deal. Maybe not so much for those that have iLife '05. But it is to those that have iLife '04 or earlier.

And if you buy a new Mac with iLife '06 bundled...it's the most amazing deal ever. Whether people consider it a 'free' bonus or factor iLife into the price of the computer, they'll quickly realize how much a of a deal this is. This deal is much more apparent if you buy a Mac mini or, say, the 1299$ iMac Core Duo.

If I didn't have self-control, I'd buy the iMac Core Duo right away. The bang for buck on that thing is ridiculous. You get a 17" screen with built-in iSight, two very fast processors, an excellent graphics card, the Mac OS X 10.4.4 (a 129$ value), Frontrow, iLife '06 (79$ value), and Big Bang Board games (most excellent board games from Freeverse).

Simply plug the iMac in and plug your Ethernet cable (or do nothing else if you got wireless) and you can video chat, easily and rapidly create a website, catalogue and share photos, manage music, make videos and DVDs, surf the web with a fast, modern and compliant browser, use the computer as a media center, all this right out of the frickin' box. Not a whole lot of PCs do this for 1299$ (if any.)
post #38 of 71
All good points.

Apple Store Japan now has iLife listed at 3 weeks. Sure beats 5, and iWork can wait.

Will be reading intently to see what you guys think of the software.

 

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post #39 of 71
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Originally posted by kim kap sol
If I didn't have self-control, I'd buy the iMac Core Duo right away. The bang for buck on that thing is ridiculous. You get a 17" screen with built-in iSight, two very fast processors, an excellent graphics card, the Mac OS X 10.4.4 (a 129$ value), Frontrow, iLife '06 (79$ value), and Big Bang Board games (most excellent board games from Freeverse).

You forgot the warm fuzzy feeling you get for knowing it's Mac.

 

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Originally posted by Bergermeister
You forgot the warm fuzzy feeling you get for knowing it's Mac.

Hehe...yeah, that one's priceless.

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Core Duo chip...$397
Tiger...$129
iLife...$79
Knowing it's Mac...priceless.
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