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post #41 of 108
what about


MacTop?

eh,


whatever i'm good with macbook.
post #42 of 108
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Originally posted by aegisdesign
I hear it's going to be called the MacServe Extreme

And I'm guessing we'll eventually see a MacBook Extreme.
post #43 of 108
The names are fine.

Short, simple and too the point.

What I want to know is if Intel build these motherboards or is it all Apple or both!

Has anyone seen one yet... how do they look and perform, they sound fast...Are they cool on the bottom, are they using a radiator for cooling, yadda, yadda, etc.

I'm too busy to take the day off to go to the show.

-tink

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post #44 of 108
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Originally posted by tink
The names are fine.

Short, simple and too the point.

What I want to know is if Intel build these motherboards or is it all Apple or both!

Has anyone seen one yet... how do they look and perform, they sound fast...Are they cool on the bottom, are they using a radiator for cooling, yadda, yadda, etc.

I'm too busy to take the day off to go to the show.

-tink

If Apple has a store near you, the machines should be there, at least the iMac, which he said would be available Tuesday.
post #45 of 108
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Originally posted by radiospace
They should've put the "Mac" at the end, as with the iMac. I.e.:

RoadMac
MobileMac

or, my favorite:

Port-a-Mac (and in a new color: bright blue!)

RoadApple
post #46 of 108
iMac and iBook
PowerBook and PowerMac

Perfect and consistent names.

Now they ***@)!_! it up
post #47 of 108
What about the apple subnotebook called the....

MacBook mini
post #48 of 108
well, i'm going to assume that the intel PowerMac will be called ... get this... Mac Pro.

anyway... who cares... they will name the computers whatever they want...

they are still Macs...
post #49 of 108
I pretty much thought the same thing as everyone else: 'MacBook Pro' seems very awkward. Say it out loud, and the words seem at angles with each other somehow. It's the way you have to change the position of your mouth/tongue from one word to the next. A lingust could explain it better. I've forgotten all my first-year classes.

I don't agree that the 'PowerBook' and 'Power Mac' names are untenable if the machines should use Intel chips. Outside of the Mac cult, few people bought Macs because of Apple's hype about the PowerPC. The reality is that most of them bought their Macs while remaining ignorant about the processors inside. Apple is throwing away a strong brand in 'PowerBook', and without good enough reason, I think.

Ah, whatever. Give us a decent 'MacBook' before the second half of the year (why so long?), and I'm sure we'll get over it. 8)

(Truth be known, I'm still steamed that Apple never made hay with a 'Flower Power G4 Tower.' Pshaw?! That one would have earned my loyalty forever...)
post #50 of 108
At this point I'd expect the revamped iBooks to be called MacBook mini since they may coincide with the Mac mini update.
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post #51 of 108
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Originally posted by sCreeD
The new nomenclature does open the possibility for a MacBook mini.

Okay half-speculating/half-teasing.

However, think of this. By the end of this summer we might have:
MacBook Pro
MacBook

Mac Pro
iMac
Mac mini


This is an entirely plausible line of reasoning, however, similar naming schemes between products would mean confusion would reign among consumers. I hope this isn't indicitive of the new Apple... making boneheaded marketing moves like this, and that damned "vingle" thing. Oy!

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post #52 of 108
MacBook nano. Comes in black or white.
post #53 of 108
And all this time I thought it was the about the user experience, not the silkscreen on the bezel.
post #54 of 108
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Originally posted by zaz
And all this time I thought it was the about the user experience, not the silkscreen on the bezel.

Yeah everyone's making a HUGE deal about the name, and nobody's talking about the computer.

For instance: the fact that Apple has YET TO POST THE BATTERY LIFE of the MacBook Pro on its website.
post #55 of 108
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Originally posted by ThinkExpensive
Yeah everyone's making a HUGE deal about the name, and nobody's talking about the computer.

For instance: the fact that Apple has YET TO POST THE BATTERY LIFE of the MacBook Pro on its website.

My first Al15 got 2 hours, tops. So, if it improves on the AL series, what can you ask.

And I have seen several posts of those who were on the floor who say unplugged units had times of anywhere between 5 and 7.5 hours remaining.

Just because Apple didn't post the info and the everyone gets paranoid.

Z
post #56 of 108
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Originally posted by zaz
My first Al15 got 2 hours, tops. So, if it improves on the AL series, what can you ask.

And I have seen several posts of those who were on the floor who say unplugged units had times of anywhere between 5 and 7.5 hours remaining.

Just because Apple didn't post the info and the everyone gets paranoid.

Z

Really? Because i've heard reports of 3hrs or less. I actually believe it is significant that Apple did not post the battery life time. They have on EVERY OTHER LAPTOP THEY HAVE EVER SOLD! Are they trying to hide something? If it was good, why wouldn't they mention it?
post #57 of 108
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Originally posted by troberts
I will agree that iBook and PowerBook makes it easy to tell which one is professional/high-end, but calling the Intel based laptop "MacBook Pro" makes it so you do not have to distinquish between Intel and PPC when talking about or ordering PowerBooks. As far the the name is concerned I like it and though I would like my next laptop to be an iBook, I would not have a problem owning a "MacBook".

I think troberts hit it on the head, the reason (or one of the reasons, besides the whole mac branding) is to distinguish between Intel and PPC laptops. As discussed before, this is not because PB's only have had PPC chips (not true), but because they are still selling PB's!! This easily distinguishes the two lines and will clear up a lot of confusion when people are buying.

Now, as for whether I like the name or not...that's another question. Frankly, I don't love it but it doesn't bother me, I'll get used to it...
post #58 of 108
I agree with cosmonut, and with kolchak.

Mac iBook and Mac PowerBook are good names. It is true that Mac iBook is a little awkward, but less so than Mac Book Pro. There are too many hard sounds in the new name, it is too staccato. Unless one likes those hard consonants, then it would be fine. It does not flow like oil, with a mixture of sounds to strike our ears.

But, like has been reported, and melgross referred to, Steve Jobs essentially said, 'Power is done.' He lived under the shadow of the availability, and speed of development, of motorola and IBM cpus for years, now he has shepherded a major shift in the Mac world.

I like Apple Book, but I suppose it will not resound with enough people.

I sure am looking forward to seeing the new Mac iBook when it arrives, in new size factor. I wish that it might have the duo Yonah in it, but I suppose that may happen when the Merom chip comes along to the new Mac Book.
post #59 of 108
15" MacBook Pro
13" MacPamphlet Pro
17" MacCoffeeTableBook Pro -or- 17" MacTome Pro

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post #60 of 108
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Originally posted by Mark
I pretty much thought the same thing as everyone else: 'MacBook Pro' seems very awkward. Say it out loud, and the words seem at angles with each other somehow. It's the way you have to change the position of your mouth/tongue from one word to the next. A lingust could explain it better. I've forgotten all my first-year classes.

I'm no linguist either, but I think it's because when you say "MacBook Pro" quickly, it's almost like there's 4 syllables: "Mac-uh-book Pro," which makes it seem more jarring. In "PowerBook," the "er" flows right into "book," making it seem like almost two syllables: "POWerBOOK" vs. "MAC-BOOK-PRO" (there is no strongly de-emphasised syllable in MacBook Pro).

If you think I must be extraordinarily bored to go into this much detail, you assume correctly!

Anyways, the MacBook Pro looks like a very nice machine, though I'm interested to see what the battery life will be like.
post #61 of 108
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Originally posted by zaz
My first Al15 got 2 hours, tops. So, if it improves on the AL series, what can you ask.

And I have seen several posts of those who were on the floor who say unplugged units had times of anywhere between 5 and 7.5 hours remaining.

Just because Apple didn't post the info and the everyone gets paranoid.

Z

Jade, from Ars, said that when he "accidentally" knocked the plug out, with everything running, it said 3 hours.
post #62 of 108
Come on, fellas, get into the spirit of the thing.

"Mac Book" is clearly intended to by pronounced like "MacBeth", with a bit of a roguish brogue. Try it: make the "c" in "Mac" a little guttural and then shorten up "book" into something more like "buk".

"Aye, 'tis a nobel Mac Book, be she pro or be she homely, that braves the shifting fortunes and leaps, at once! from her mother's loving board and, having leapt, comes to rest at last upon this vexed plane, this field of dreams, this desk."

See what fun? Now mac people can lord their literary pretensions over the PC masses, as well, and we'll do it simply by uttering the name of our device.
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post #63 of 108
Referring to it as MBP will alleviate some typing strain.
post #64 of 108
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Originally posted by mugwump
Referring to it as MBP will alleviate some typing strain.

Yeah, I just did that on Ars.
post #65 of 108
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Originally posted by Booga
I personally favor iPowerMacBook ProNanoShuffle.

yeah thats sure to make existing applecare support line even better...

Automated Voice: "Hello, please speak the product with which you need help with today, for example you could say imac or ipod nano"

ME: Ibook

Automated Voice: "I think you said Ipod shuffle, is this correct"

ME; No, Ibook, I-book

Automated voice: "Okay, this time i heard Mac Mini, is this correct"

ME: uhh... Operator.
post #66 of 108
How about MobiMac Pro for the new PowerBook and MobiMac for the new iBook? Or FlyMac Or MacMobi?

I suppose trademarks also has to be taken into consideration.
post #67 of 108
1. The name sucks. MacBook is awkward to say and the PowerBook name has 15 years of brand loyalty behind it.
2. This feels like a rushed out "we've got to have a notebook to go with this new iMac" product. There's only one size screen available and the FireWire 800 port is missing.
3. The 15" PowerBook ships with a 65W power adapter. The 15" MacBook Pro will ship with an 85W adapter. It's not hard to see which one sucks more juice. Apple has promised a 60W hour battery in the MacBook Pro in place of the 50W hour battery in the 15" PowerBook so battery life shouldn't be too much worse.
post #68 of 108
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Originally posted by dannyk
How about MobiMac Pro for the new PowerBook and MobiMac for the new iBook? Or FlyMac Or MacMobi?

I suppose trademarks also has to be taken into consideration.

I can see it now, Captain Ahab, and his search for Mobi Mac.
post #69 of 108
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Originally posted by Bregalad
1. The name sucks. MacBook is awkward to say and the PowerBook name has 15 years of brand loyalty behind it.
2. This feels like a rushed out "we've got to have a notebook to go with this new iMac" product. There's only one size screen available and the FireWire 800 port is missing.
3. The 15" PowerBook ships with a 65W power adapter. The 15" MacBook Pro will ship with an 85W adapter. It's not hard to see which one sucks more juice. Apple has promised a 60W hour battery in the MacBook Pro in place of the 50W hour battery in the 15" PowerBook so battery life shouldn't be too much worse.

intel = more heat. what else is new?

Intel processor preformance in a nutshell:

If Temp<X degrees celsuis then run faster
else run slower

jobs talk about performance per watt was kindda a joke and the elephant in the room was AMD with the best preformance per watt. Though i understand why jobs picked intel -- brand name, higher Ghz, better immediate availability of mobile chips and better production capabilities.
post #70 of 108
I think AppleInsider ought to find a new rumor mill. Just like I never got why the rumors persisted that they'd introduce an Intel iBook before a new PowerBook, I have no idea why they'd do it before replacing the rest of the PowerBook line. PowerBooks are more profitable to sell, so why would Apple replace the iBook first? Get people who want an Intel Mac laptop first to buy a MacBook Pro. Also, if you're aiming an Intel iBook for the education market, there's no rush till mid/late summer. Unless Apple wants to lose money, I'd expect more new MacBook Pro's before iBooks.

As far as the iBook name goes, why rename it when you still have the iMac??? Maybe it'll be the iMacBook? iMacMini anyone? I'm with everyone else who thinks they should've stuck with the PowerBook name (as well as features like FireWire 800, modem, S-Video out) instead of MacBook Pro. Put me down for predicting the names as: iMacMini (Mac mini), iMac, iMacBook (iBook), Mac Pro (Power Mac) and MacBook Pro (PowerBook). I still want my iMacTablet (formerly iTablet).

Since there keep seeming to be these rumors that the 12" PowerBook might be going away, maybe these 13" widescreens are for a new MacBook Pro (12" PowerBook replacement) rather than some fabled iBook that never showed up when predicted. Based on the most recent incorrect rumors of what would be showing up at Macworld Expo, it sounds to me like Apple knows where their leaks are, and they're feeding them junk.
post #71 of 108
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Originally posted by addabox
Come on, fellas, get into the spirit of the thing.

"Mac Book" is clearly intended to by pronounced like "MacBeth", with a bit of a roguish brogue. Try it: make the "c" in "Mac" a little guttural and then shorten up "book" into something more like "buk".

"Aye, 'tis a nobel Mac Book, be she pro or be she homely, that braves the shifting fortunes and leaps, at once! from her mother's loving board and, having leapt, comes to rest at last upon this vexed plane, this field of dreams, this desk."

See what fun? Now mac people can lord their literary pretensions over the PC masses, as well, and we'll do it simply by uttering the name of our device.


What an excellent post, and what mirth you bring to us! Thank you for easing my mind.
post #72 of 108
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Originally posted by JeffDM
RoadApple

Chuckle. I've already suggested these will be classed as RoadApples eventually. Come on, these are stop gaps. Nice stop gaps but the real deal has yet to land.
post #73 of 108
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Originally posted by mike12309
jobs talk about performance per watt was kindda a joke and the elephant in the room was AMD with the best preformance per watt.

On the desktop and in a server yes, in a laptop or iMac form factor, no.
post #74 of 108
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Originally posted by aegisdesign
On the desktop and in a server yes, in a laptop or iMac form factor, no.

im the only one in the world that still loves desktops more than laptops :-( sniff.
post #75 of 108
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Originally posted by mike12309
im the only one in the world that still loves desktops more than laptops :-( sniff.

Horses for courses. I like them both, depending on what I need. I do 90% of my work on my dual G5 because it has a better keyboard, better screen, more speed, more storage, more RAM, etc. But I obviously can't take it with me everywhere, so I've got a 12" PB, too. And having two machines means I don't really have to worry too much if one develops temporary problems.

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Originally posted by mike12309
I'm no linguist either, but I think it's because when you say "MacBook Pro" quickly, it's almost like there's 4 syllables: "Mac-uh-book Pro," which makes it seem more jarring.

And that's pretty much how the Japanese will have to pronounce it. It'll be "Mah-ku-bu-ku" to them. (De-emphasizing the "ku" syllables, but still there.)
post #76 of 108
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Originally posted by Kolchak
And that's pretty much how the Japanese will have to pronounce it. It'll be "Mah-ku-bu-ku" to them. (De-emphasizing the "ku" syllables, but still there.)

Actually, I think that has a bit more flair than MacBook Pro... Makabuku Plo. Yeah, I like it.
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post #77 of 108
Anyone think we're spending WAY too much time talking about this?
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post #78 of 108
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Originally posted by shetline
Actually, I think that has a bit more flair than MacBook Pro... Makabuku Plo. Yeah, I like it.

That is good. Makubuku. I like it too. It has more rhythm. No, I don't think such pleasure can be taking too much time. But I have to get going now.
post #79 of 108
I emailed Jobs about the macbookname and told him they should name it a "probook" since it has more punch in it, like the "power" did in the last product line, and that is who the product is marketed towards anyways.. He however politley disagreed and said, (and I copied this from my email mind you...)

"We like "Mac" in the name, and think that Mac has a lot of punch too."
post #80 of 108
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Originally posted by hypoluxa
I emailed Jobs about the macbookname and told him they should name it a "probook" since it has more punch in it, like the "power" did in the last product line, and that is who the product is marketed towards anyways.. He however politley disagreed and said, (and I copied this from my email mind you...)

"We like "Mac" in the name, and think that Mac has a lot of punch too."

i like probook better. but maybe macbook pro will grow on me.

personally i would have liked ipowermacbook shufflepro
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