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Apple Computer this week is expected to begin widespread testing of Mac OS X 10.4.5 Update, the next in a series of maintenance updates to its Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" operating system and the first update to address bugs lingering the company's initial release of Mac OS X 10.4.4 for Intel-based Macs, AppleInsider has learned.

Contacts often familiar with Cupertino, Calif.-based company's operating system plans say the Mac maker this week began distributing the first external builds of Mac OS X 10.4.5 Update, which weigh in at approximately 15MB.

Two of the most recent builds are rumored to have appeared as "Mac OS X 10.4.5 build 8H3" and "Mac OS X 10.4.5 build 8H5."

While the specific fixes and enhancements planned for the update are unknown, Apple is reportedly asking that its developers and partners put weight on Safari, Core Graphics intensive applications, Quartz Composer, and the Mac OS X Dock.

The company also reportedly asked that developers test networking, the Mac OS X crash report, File Sync, Software Update and the MSDOS File System.

Members of Apple's Developer Connection program could begin to receive their first pre-release distribution of Mac OS X 10.4.5 as early as Wednesday afternoon, contacts have said.

It's unclear when Apple has targeted the release of Mac OS X 10.4.5 Update. Earlier this month, the company update Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" to Mac OS X 10.4.4 to coincide with the release of the first Intel-based Mac systems: the iMac Core Duo and MacBook Pro.
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I figured an OS update would coincide with the final release of the MacBooks. This way any new OS-level power management features will make it out there.
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Originally posted by Xool
I figured an OS update would coincide with the final release of the MacBooks. This way any new OS-level power management features will make it out there.

Which could be why Apple has not made ANY specific comment on battery life, the software guys werent done tuning : makes sense to me.
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I can only hope they present some kind of fix for iLife '06.

I updated my iPhoto and all 1,200+ of my photos disappeared. I finally located them, but iPhoto refuses to recognize them now and won't import them back into the program. This is insanely bad!

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Let's hope 10.4.5 fixes all the bugs introduced in 10.4.4 - I've had a lot more crashes in various apps since upgrading from 10.4.3.

One of my most used apps, VLC, is now totally unusable on my Mac mini with 10.4.4.
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This is moving quickly.

Spamsandwich, did you try looking in macfixit.com, or macintouch.com?

They have problems listed, and often, solutions (Yup, I know, you've tried already ).

VLC still works for me on both an upgraded digital Audio (dual 1.8GHZ PL), and a dual 2GHz PM.

Do you have version .8.4?
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The sooner the better. Ever since I have upgraded to 10.4.4 XGrid will not launch on my G5 to my RAID/XServe setup. I have had 8 kernel panics in the last 12 days now on my Dual 2.0 Ghz with 4.5GB of RAM and I have not added anything extra to my G5 except for the 10.4.4. There are a lot of issues with Server as well. I have FTP deny log in every 3 days and if I erase the FTPServer folder, upload a fresh one, then it works fine...for 3 or 4 days.... They need to get this out ASAP. I have never ever had any issues with any updates until this one. VLC does work fine though.
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Originally posted by melgross
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VLC still works for me on both an upgraded digital Audio (dual 1.8GHZ PL), and a dual 2GHz PM.

Do you have version .8.4? [/B]

Tried both 0.8.4 and 0.7.2. I've deleted the preferences and even gone as far as reloading the 10.4.4 combo update. I had wondered if the problem had something to do with using a Mac mini.

Next step would be a complete reinstall of Tiger - something I'm not in a hurry to do. At the moment I've switched to MPlayer, but it would be good to have VLC back.

Another app that seems to crash a lot more is iTunes-LAME.
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Originally posted by Gates_of_Hell
Tried both 0.8.4 and 0.7.2. I've deleted the preferences and even gone as far as reloading the 10.4.4 combo update. I had wondered if the problem had something to do with using a Mac mini.

Next step would be a complete reinstall of Tiger - something I'm not in a hurry to do. At the moment I've switched to MPlayer, but it would be good to have VLC back.

Another app that seems to crash a lot more is iTunes-LAME.

While both VLC and MPlayer both work, they both have always been prone to crash. Companies (or groups) can't seem to write proper error checking with files. Instead of telling us that these files don't function, the programs just crash. Sad.

By the way, my version of MPlayer says version 2.0 (2.0b9r5), but the latest is supposed to be 8r5, and that's the only one I can find. Strange!
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Originally posted by melgross
While both VLC and MPlayer both work, they both have always been prone to crash. Companies (or groups) can't seem to write proper error checking with files. Instead of telling us that these files don't function, the programs just crash. Sad.

By the way, my version of MPlayer says version 2.0 (2.0b9r5), but the latest is supposed to be 8r5, and that's the only one I can find. Strange!

One thing that might be related, but I've yet to check if it's the cause is Flip4Mac. I was only too keen to dump Windows Media Player, but I wonder if that was a little premature.

I do vaguely remember seeing 2 different versions of MPlayer. I tried them both and ended up using 1.0pre8. Seems to work fine, but isn't quite as "snappy" as VLC (when VLC works).
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Originally posted by Gates_of_Hell
One thing that might be related, but I've yet to check if it's the cause is Flip4Mac. I was only too keen to dump Windows Media Player, but I wonder if that was a little premature.

I do vaguely remember seeing 2 different versions of MPlayer. I tried them both and ended up using 1.0pre8. Seems to work fine, but isn't quite as "snappy" as VLC (when VLC works).

I've tried Flip4Mac, and paid for the intermediate edition. But I can't get sound out of any video's using it. I've checked, and all of the files in the library are there. I downloaded it again, just in case, but have the same problem. I've posted this, and others have acknowledged having this problem.

So, I've removed the two files in the Internet plug-ins to enable the Windows player again.

So far, no word from them.
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Since i updated to 10.4.4 something went wrong with my iBook combo drive.. now sometimes it wont recognize CDs or DVDs until i reboot.. it is really anoying

EDITED: Hehe sorry, i corrected it. it was the 10.4.4, i've had this ibook for about 4 months, so tiger was already 10.4.2 when in purchased it.
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Well I just removed Flip4Mac and VLC works fine again! As my moniker would suggest I've never been a fan of M$. This just goes to reinforce that opinion.

Apologies for my false accusation of 10.4.4 and VLC. Looks like Flip4Mac isn't so much a plugin as a trojan.
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Originally posted by falsoman
Since i updated to 10.4 something went wrong with my iBook como drive.. now sometimes it wont recognize CDs or DVDs until i reboot.. it is really anoying

That's understandable!

Was this the upgrade to 10.4, or the update to 10.4.4?
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Originally posted by O4BlackWRX
The sooner the better. Ever since I have upgraded to 10.4.4 XGrid will not launch on my G5 to my RAID/XServe setup. I have had 8 kernel panics in the last 12 days now on my Dual 2.0 Ghz with 4.5GB of RAM and I have not added anything extra to my G5 except for the 10.4.4. There are a lot of issues with Server as well. I have FTP deny log in every 3 days and if I erase the FTPServer folder, upload a fresh one, then it works fine...for 3 or 4 days.... They need to get this out ASAP. I have never ever had any issues with any updates until this one. VLC does work fine though.

What do /var/log/, ~/Library/Logs, /Library/Logs reveal if anything?
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Originally posted by Gates_of_Hell
Well I just removed Flip4Mac and VLC works fine again! As my moniker would suggest I've never been a fan of M$. This just goes to reinforce that opinion.

Apologies for my false accusation of 10.4.4 and VLC. Looks like Flip4Mac isn't so much a plugin as a trojan.

The version of FlipMac on your system is what?

I'm running 10.4.4 with VLC 0.8.4 and FlipMac 2.0.1.
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The version of FlipMac on your system is what?

I'm running 10.4.4 with VLC 0.8.4 and FlipMac 2.0.1.

It was the same combination (I did have Flip4Mac 2.0.0 then upgraded to 2.0.1), although I see elsewhere reports of it conflicting with DivX and Xvid plugins, which I have installed.
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Originally posted by Gates_of_Hell
Let's hope 10.4.5 fixes all the bugs introduced in 10.4.4 - I've had a lot more crashes in various apps since upgrading from 10.4.3.

One of my most used apps, VLC, is now totally unusable on my Mac mini with 10.4.4.

What version of Videolan are you running?

Edit: I see you're running 0.8.4 have you given 0.8.4a a go? it was a fix up after 0.8.4 was released.
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Originally posted by kaiwai
What version of Videolan are you running?

Edit: I see you're running 0.8.4 have you given 0.8.4a a go? it was a fix up after 0.8.4 was released.

I don't remember that one. What did the alpha fix?
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Originally posted by melgross
This is moving quickly.

Spamsandwich, did you try looking in macfixit.com, or macintouch.com?

They have problems listed, and often, solutions (Yup, I know, you've tried already ).

VLC still works for me on both an upgraded digital Audio (dual 1.8GHZ PL), and a dual 2GHz PM.

Do you have version .8.4?

Thanks for the tips (I forgot about macintouch.com)... I made a backup DVD copy of all iPhoto pictures on my Mac, threw out the ones on my HD, then copied them back. It did the trick. Whew! I was having nightmare flashbacks from when my GarageBand was unusable for months (last year). Had to take the computer in for service, and even they couldn't figure it out for 3 days.

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post #21 of 31
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Originally posted by kaiwai
What version of Videolan are you running?

Edit: I see you're running 0.8.4 have you given 0.8.4a a go? it was a fix up after 0.8.4 was released.

Sorry, I think it was 0.8.4a I was using.

Anyway, it seems to be a conflict between Flip4Mac and the Xvid plugin I've got. Given that I need Xvid a lot more than WMV I think I can live without Flip4Mac.

I only ever use WMV for those stupid backyard brawl type movies that people send me links to. I can certainly live without them!
post #22 of 31
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Originally posted by Gates_of_Hell
Sorry, I think it was 0.8.4a I was using.

Anyway, it seems to be a conflict between Flip4Mac and the Xvid plugin I've got. Given that I need Xvid a lot more than WMV I think I can live without Flip4Mac.

I only ever use WMV for those stupid backyard brawl type movies that people send me links to. I can certainly live without them!

Yup, that's WMV all over!

By the way, 10.4.4 seems good for me on my 2003 PB 12", VLC and Flip4Mac both work well, sound ok, occasional crash on exit with VLC but nothing more irritating than that.

Safari meanwhile crashes near daily, so I'm typing this from Camino! Hopefully Safari stability gets back up to scratch, or I'm going to be eager for the Camino guys to get RSS into this sweet little browser!
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Well, I hope it includes a couple fixes for bugs I've found.
I've tested a bunch and found these:

1. Depending on your energy saver settings, the duo iMac hangs coming out of sleep. Eventually it comes up, but if you have a wireless internet connection, airport either loses its signal (no way to get it back except shut down/restart) or loses airport alltogether - computer thinks it doesn't even have airport. If you choose restart instead of shutdown, it will usually come up with no airport at all after this issue. I have to select shut down, then start back up to 'fix' it.

2. Random Safari crashes. Not been able to pin this one down, but have had safari quit just sitting there - not even scrolling or clicking anything.
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Originally posted by SpamSandwich
I can only hope they present some kind of fix for iLife '06.

I updated my iPhoto and all 1,200+ of my photos disappeared. I finally located them, but iPhoto refuses to recognize them now and won't import them back into the program. This is insanely bad!

I had problems with this too. What I did was delete all the stuff in the photo directory of iphoto6, drag the entire contents from iphoto 5, and it then sees the XML stuff is not current and rebuilds the necessary files. That worked for me without issue, and kept all my albums etc. When I originally loaded it, I tried to import the photos and iphoto 6 just crashed on it.
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Originally posted by Gates_of_Hell
One thing that might be related, but I've yet to check if it's the cause is Flip4Mac. I was only too keen to dump Windows Media Player, but I wonder if that was a little premature.

I do vaguely remember seeing 2 different versions of MPlayer. I tried them both and ended up using 1.0pre8. Seems to work fine, but isn't quite as "snappy" as VLC (when VLC works).

Flip4mac AND VLC worked without problem on my G5 iMac.. neither crashed at all, and VLC was always reliable.

Flip4mac has recent updates, so you may want to try the latest version. It doesn't yet work on the duo tho, but VLC still seems ok.
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Originally posted by Gates_of_Hell
Let's hope 10.4.5 fixes all the bugs introduced in 10.4.4 - I've had a lot more crashes in various apps since upgrading from 10.4.3.

One of my most used apps, VLC, is now totally unusable on my Mac mini with 10.4.4.

I had this same error appear in the past. To resolve the error with VLC, I ran the delete preferences application that comes with the program. After running the program the problems were gone with VLC and 10.4.4.
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The reports that the iMac Core Duo machines don't have the same Energy Saver settings corroborate the theories regarding power management and the MacBooks. I wonder if 10.4.5 will include full Energy Saver support for both Macs: iMac and MacBook Pro?
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Kinda random and maybe iLife related, but I found a reproducible bug in Garage Band ('06). I have USB SoundSticks and if I select them as my sound Output source, the preference pane's menus break after the sound system is reinitialized. If I close the preferences window I can't open it again, even if I quit and re-launch Garage Band. Luckily the setting is correctly applied and sound comes out my SoundSticks, I just have to throw the preferences away if want to change any settings which is annoying. Hopefully 10.4.5 or a Garage Band update will fix this.
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post #29 of 31
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Originally posted by Xool
The reports that the iMac Core Duo machines don't have the same Energy Saver settings corroborate the theories regarding power management and the MacBooks. I wonder if 10.4.5 will include full Energy Saver support for both Macs: iMac and MacBook Pro?

It's built into the chips. I'm not sure if Energy Saver will affect what the chips do, just the rest of the machine.
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Was looking at the updater to Main Menu on MacUpdate. Says it now has support for 10.4.5.

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/17111
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post #31 of 31
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Originally posted by Gates_of_Hell
Sorry, I think it was 0.8.4a I was using.

Anyway, it seems to be a conflict between Flip4Mac and the Xvid plugin I've got. Given that I need Xvid a lot more than WMV I think I can live without Flip4Mac.

I only ever use WMV for those stupid backyard brawl type movies that people send me links to. I can certainly live without them!

I had a look online and it appears that the WMV plugin were casuing problems elsewhere - they have released an update, 2.0.1, which may fix the problem; for me, it seems to have fixed the crashing issue, which is a good thing(tm), couple that with the DivX plugin that was finally released for Quicktime, the reason for keeping VLC is pretty much a non-existant story IMHO.

I would like to see Real Networks do the same thing, dump the Realplayer and simply provide a plugin for Quicktime, it would make life easier for all concerned, and would require one to have multiple players installed.
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