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Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
Holy Siva, YOU'RE A PUPPY SHAWN PATRICK.

It's really weird. I was always the youngest in any crowd but, slowly, secretly, I've become the oldest. I am 34. I am now the old cool guy. I didn't see it happening.

I remember the '70s. Beat that.

I'm sorry. There are no old cool guys. There are simply old guys acting in a creepy way because they don't realize their age. It didn't happen slowly. It isn't a secret.

That is what 35 is all about learning.

I mean when you are hanging out with the cool 21 year old girl and you start doing the math, if you don't shudder for second then you truly are creepy.

You know the "whatta great ass and when I was ready to tap it at 18 she was... uh in kindergarten" type reasoning.


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post #42 of 114
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Originally posted by trumptman
I'm sorry. There are no old cool guys. There are simply old guys acting in a creepy way because they don't realize their age. It didn't happen slowly. It isn't a secret.

That is what 35 is all about learning.

I mean when you are hanging out with the cool 21 year old girl and you start doing the math, if you don't shudder for second then you truly are creepy.

You know the "whatta great ass and when I was ready to tap it at 18 she was... uh in kindergarten" type reasoning.

Nick



I mean, piss off, Nick.

No, there are cool old guys. Why, I am one. I share the benefit of my experience with young people, interested and encouraging, and still capable of stealing their drugs. My once-handsome face has been destroyed in the course of gaining that experience, but I am not fat.

I listen to avant garde jazz and I've been into hip hop since the 1980s.

I'm coo-well.
post #43 of 114
(You bastard.)
post #44 of 114
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Originally posted by Aries 1B


The 70's really, really sucked.


Plaid pants!

'nuff said....

I remember being hot and bored waiting in the long gas pump lines.....\
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post #45 of 114
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Originally posted by trick fall
I love beer can hats and do you remeber Bud Man?

Wow -- not until you mentioned it. Reminds me of white guys wearing afros!

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post #46 of 114
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Originally posted by trick fall
I couldn't believe it recently when my two fifteen year old nephews had never heard of the movie Better off Dead. I immediately bought them a copy.

I want my two dollars!
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post #47 of 114
Well I'll post what I believe are some positives that are lost on the "youths" of today by not being raised in the 80's and at least part of the 70's. There are a few advantages to having grown up during that time and from earlier times.

/curmudgeon

These kids today seem to have the paradox that they should be continually entertained, are unable to realize it isn't all about them, and lastly are unable to entertain themselves.

First the fact that it isn't all about them. Even when there is entertainment, music, whatever available in a place or room, it must be suited to their tastes. They have never lived in a world where there were not 24/7 services devoted to their entertainment needs. You speak of Saturday morning cartoons and they look at you like you are an idiot. They live in a world where there are 3 a.m. cartoons on a channel whose demographic are 13-17 year olds, all day, everyday.

So they can be in a room with a 70 inch television, or with a surround-sound stereo system, or whatever but if all this equipment isn't devoted to their niche, then they often pout. They are unable to be entertained outside of their narrow band of interests.

As for being entertained, well it had better be available pretty much all the time. It also requires an incredible technological load to sustain. Anything less is their personal definition of hell. You suggest that books travel well and they almost faint on sight.

I encounter this most often when camping. I am shocked by the amount of CRAP people need to leave their homes. My own children are trying to add to our pile and 9 out of 10 times I'll tell them to take a hike on it. Go bike, go hike, go climb a rock, go stare at those damn bugs crawling around and figure out what they do.(including bite)

(A couple outings ago we were camping and we this trolley comes by carting people around. We overhear on the radio someone calling in the fact that some kids were playing with a dead bird. They were our kids)

Then the last point, entertaining yourselves. They can't do it nowadays. Television news has scared people into never letting kids leave their homes and I grew up in an age where you might get smacked if you were seen inside before dark. I can't hear a young person tell a joke. They can't seem to think, only repeat. Worse still they can't understand a joke because it might make reference to something outside their narrow band of understanding, might not make a pop reference, might require understanding, might not be slapstick, etc.


/curmudgeon off


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post #48 of 114
What an old man . . .!


Funny relevant statistic:
60% of people under 60 believe that wisdom comes with age
less than 40% of people over 60 believe it

. . . paradoxical
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post #49 of 114
But with all the not-so subtle jibes aside . . . of course you're right Trumpt . . . and in so many words as well
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post #50 of 114
Welcome back pfflam.
post #51 of 114
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But with all the not-so subtle jibes aside . . . of course you're right Trumpt . . . and in so many words as well

Welcome back.

Of course I'm right.

As for the words, well I get paid by the pound.8)

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post #52 of 114
This has been around for a while, but seems appropriate for this thread:
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Now that I've reached the ripe old age of thirty, I can't help but look
around and notice the youth of today. You've got it so ****in' easy!

I mean, compared to my childhood, you live in a goddamned Utopia! And I hate
to say it but you kids today you don't know how good you've got it. I mean,
when I was a kid we didn't have the Internet - we wanted to know something,
we had to go to the goddamned library and look it up ourselves!

And there was no email! We had to actually write somebody a letter - with a
pen! And then you had to walk all the way across the street and put it in
the ****in' mailbox and it would take like a week to get there!

And there were no MP3s or Napster! You wanted to steal music, you had to go
to the goddamned record store and shoplift it yourself. Or we had to wait
around all day to tape it off the radio and the DJ would usually talk over
the beginning and **** it all up!

You want to hear about hardship? You couldn't just download porn! You had to
bribe some homeless dude to buy you a copy of "Hustler" at the 7-11. Those
were your options.

We didn't have fancy shit like Call Waiting. If you were on the phone and
somebody else called they got a busy signal!

And we didn't have fancy Caller ID Boxes either. When the phone rang, you h
ad no idea who it was it could be your boss, your mom, a collections agent,
your drug dealer, you didn't know!!! You just had to pick it up and take
your chances, man!

And we didn't have any fancy Sony PlayStation videogames with
high-resolution 3-D graphics. We had the Atari 2600. With games like "Space
Invaders" and "Asteroids" and the graphics sucked ass. Your guy was a little
square! You had to use your imagination. And there were no multiple levels
or screens; it was just one screen forever. And you could never win, the
game just kept getting harder and faster until you died. Just like LIFE!

When you went to the movie theater, there no such thing as stadium seating.
All the seats were the same height. A tall guy sat in front of you, you
were ****ed!

And sure, we had cable television, but back then that was only like 20
channels and there was no onscreen menu! You had to use a little book
called a TV Guide to find out what was on!

And there was no Cartoon Network! You could only get cartoons on Saturday
morning... ...do you hear what the **** I'm saying!?! We had to wait ALL
WEEK, you spoiled little bastards!

That's exactly what I'm talking about! You kids today have got it too easy.
You're spoiled, I swear to God! You guys wouldn't last five minutes back in
1984!

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post #53 of 114
To add to the list...

The only telephone we had was a rotary dial thingy that worked on a good day, but the noise on the line was horrible. Speed dial? Answer phone? Only in some rich offices. Camera phones? The only photo we ever discussed was the one you took, spent several days having it developed, slipped into an envelope, waited another several days for someone to receive it, then they called and you discussed it. The event was over a week old by then.

Our tape recorder at home was a Sony which was larger than a Yellow Pages for New York City. It had real push-button action: you had to put quite a bit of pressure on the buttons to get things to click right. CDs were unheard of and MP3 players weren't even on SciFi shows yet.

My car had an 8-track tape player; even had a collection of 20 some tapes. My car now has an iPod nano connected to it in the front and a iPod 5G in the bback to run videos.

My first computer was the TRS-80, affectionately known as the Trash-80. It was horrible. Then came the Apple IIe's, then somewhere I picked up a Timex Sinclair 2000. It had a memory module on the back with a whopping 16MB!

TV was reruns of Mork and Mindy, My Favorite Martian, Star Trek (the real one), Dragnet, Hawaii 5-0. Damn, we saw Eddie Murphy on Saturday Night Live, LIVE.

I remember Nixon's resignation. The only reason though may be my cousin worked at the Washington Post and came over really hyped uup every couple of days about the sensation the story was creating.

Oh. Did I mention the navigation system in the car? It consisted of printed paper maps that were not up-to-date and a dyslexic brotther trying to read them. we really got into lots of trouble. It was fun. AAA TripTiks!!!

Ahh, the Ruskies. Grew uup next to Norfolk Navel Station with the knowledge that any confrontation between us and them would mean our instantaneous elimination from the map. Really put a damper on things, or taught people not to give a rat's looney.

Memory lane...

 

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post #54 of 114
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Originally posted by Bergermeister
Norfolk Navel Station

I don't mean to nitpick or even pick on what might be a simple typo or mis-spelling. However...

A navel station and a naval station are probably two very different things.

post #55 of 114
Glad you picked up the joke.8)

 

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post #56 of 114
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Originally posted by DanMacMan
Tomorrow (28 January) is the 20th Anniversary of the Challenger explosion. I was 4 years old. Damn.

Time flies. I was five when that happened.
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post #57 of 114
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Originally posted by Bergermeister
My first computer was the TRS-80, affectionately known as the Trash-80. It was horrible. Then came the Apple IIe's, then somewhere I picked up a Timex Sinclair 2000. It had a memory module on the back with a whopping 16MB!

Shouldn't that be 16 KB? I remember saving up my allowance and yard-moving money to buy a 32KB expansion card for my TI-994/A.
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post #58 of 114
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Shouldn't that be 16 KB? I remember saving up my allowance and yard-moving money to buy a 32KB expansion card for my TI-994/A.

Have gotten too used to MB and GB! You are right: it was only 16KB, and it was a TS 1000, not 2000. Maybe that was KnightRider! God it's so long ago... the memory is fading so quickly...

http://oldcomputers.net/ts1000.html

 

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You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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post #59 of 114
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Originally posted by Bergermeister
Have gotten too used to MB and GB! You are right: it was only 16KB, and it was a TS 1000, not 2000. Maybe that was KnightRider! God it's so long ago... the memory is fading so quickly...

http://oldcomputers.net/ts1000.html

Hmm, just looking at the pictures make me shutter...
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post #60 of 114
OH man, a friend of mine had a Sinclair 1000. God, I remember sharing those cassette tapes of basic programs....subscribing to those magazines that would publish hundreds of lines of BASIC code, which you'd dutifully type in and run only to find hundreds of errors.

Ahhh. Those were the days.
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post #61 of 114
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Originally posted by midwinter
OH man, a friend of mine had a Sinclair 1000. God, I remember sharing those cassette tapes of basic programs....subscribing to those magazines that would publish hundreds of lines of BASIC code, which you'd dutifully type in and run only to find hundreds of errors.

Ahhh. Those were the days.

I had a game printed in one of the magazines.
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Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
I had a game printed in one of the magazines.

Was it one of the ones with about 100 lines of DATA parameters? I got to the point where I could memorize bit sets of 16 digits because of typing those things in.
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post #63 of 114
...try 10+ pages of machine language, just to play a "three-voice" Bach fugue!

(and hope your C64 power supply didn't overheat)

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post #64 of 114
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Originally posted by dmz
...try 10+ pages of machine language, just to play a "three-voice" Bach fugue!

(and hope your C64 power supply didn't overheat)

Alas, I wanted a C64 badly, but had to make do with my TI-99-4/A. And I never got the damned voice synthesizer!
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Alas, I wanted a C64 badly, but had to make do with my TI-99-4/A. And I never got the damned voice synthesizer!

I actually had both of these (at different times).

My fondest memory of my C64 was the day after my Dad took me with him to a Computerland to see the first Mac. I was utterly speechless. I was so amazed. I couldn't believe a computer could DO that. I went home and started trying to program my C64 to do the same thing.

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All I had was a lousy Commodore 16\
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Originally posted by trick fall
All I had was a lousy Commodore 16\

I know -- $200, IIRC & I had to earn that myself. Talk about a chinese water torture. _AND_ I had to stay up until after they stopped watching TV to use a ***snicker*** "monitor".

Uphill, to school, both ways!

(Although my parents sprang for the 1541 floppy drive about a year later.)

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post #68 of 114
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Originally posted by dmz
(Although my parents sprang for the 1541 floppy drive about a year later.)

Hey! I had to save up my own money to buy one!

Damn...where is my Dad's phone number...he's got some 'splainin' to do!



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Uphill, to school, both ways!

In the snow!

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Originally posted by DanMacMan
Tomorrow (28 January) is the 20th Anniversary of the Challenger explosion. I was 4 years old. Damn.

Ha! I was two. I share my birthday year with our magnificent Macintosh; we're both 21.

I also had to cheerfully commend you on your signature. "One Nation Under Steve..." it makes me smile.
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post #70 of 114
All right! That does it! Screw these political distinctions! THIRTY-SOMETHINGS OF THE BOARDS, UNITE!
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post #71 of 114
i don't ever, ever, ever want to grow up. old people make wanna throw up. i don't ever want to be like this guy, or this guy, or this guy...
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Originally posted by midwinter
All right! That does it! Screw these political distinctions! THIRTY-SOMETHINGS OF THE BOARDS, UNITE!

We already have. Wait until the boomers are trying to send you a bill for 80% of your taxable income in order to support their Social Security, Medicare, and deficit repayment program.

United we will be then, I assure you.

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post #73 of 114
In nine years, I hope that you guys will be easy on me...because financially speaking, I'll help you if you'll help me.
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post #74 of 114
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Was it one of the ones with about 100 lines of DATA parameters? I got to the point where I could memorize bit sets of 16 digits because of typing those things in.

No. Strictly BASIC baby.

10 PRINT C$141 "HASSAN IS COOL"
20 GOTO 10
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Originally posted by midwinter
Alas, I wanted a C64 badly, but had to make do with my TI-99-4/A. And I never got the damned voice synthesizer!

Ah, the 'good old' TI-99! I think my Dad still has it in the attic. Had to use my tape player to save things.

BEEP BOOP BEEP BEEP BOOB HISS BEEP HISS BING!

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post #76 of 114
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Originally posted by Tulkas
And we didn't have any fancy Sony PlayStation videogames with
high-resolution 3-D graphics. We had the Atari 2600. With games like "Space
Invaders" and "Asteroids" and the graphics sucked ass. Your guy was a little
square! You had to use your imagination. And there were no multiple levels
or screens; it was just one screen forever. And you could never win, the
game just kept getting harder and faster until you died. Just like LIFE!

I was going to avoid this thread so I didn't come off like a terminally old fart or a curmudgeon (I'm both)- BUT - in 1983 I had a school internship at Activision when they were the #2 developer of Atari 2600 games (behind Atari itself). Working for a video game developer in the early '80s was a lot like working for an Internet startup in the '90s. Activision went from zero to $150+ million revenue in two years.

I remember seeing the prototype (EEPROM on a breadboard) of Activision's Space Shuttle game for the 2600, which simulated a Shuttle launch, docking with a satellite (aligning X, Y, and Z axes), undocking, and returning to earth while following a tight reentry path - all on a 16K chip, of which the Atari 2600 could only process 4K at a time! The developer (most games had only one) wrote entirely in assembly language and it was frankly amazing what they could do with the primitive graphics and processing power available to them, to say nothing of a controller consisting of nothing more than a joystic plus a single button.

And, of course, at the time nobody was saying "in 20 years this thing called a PS2 will make this look like an Etch-A-Sketch." Instead, they were saying "This blows Pong away!"
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Instead, they were saying "This blows Pong away!"

And it did! Pong sucked compared to Atari's "Combat"!
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And it did! Pong sucked compared to Atari's "Combat"!

Pong was an Atari game, too (came bundled with the 2600), but it was "late '70s technology."

Here's a trivia question (I don't know the answer): Activision had a successful game (top 10 seller) called "River Raid" that was written by a female developer, Carol Shaw. It was the first-ever vertically scrolling video game, at least on the Atari platform. Have there been any other Top 10 video games since then for which the lead or solo developer was a woman?
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Originally posted by iPoster
BEEP BOOP BEEP BEEP BOOB HISS BEEP HISS BING!

HIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.....SCREEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH.....

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Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
No. Strictly BASIC baby.

10 PRINT C$141 "HASSAN IS COOL"
20 GOTO 10

Dude, you know you have to add the semi-colon so it prints to the screen all the way across and gives you that cool diagonal effect.

Haxor Nick

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