Originally posted by iPeonOMFG!!
You must be joking. The finder is the manager of files. No app should ever take over that task. EVER. We are already generating confusion with apps that try to mimic the finder. I have seen more people get all confused about this:"are the songs I see in iTunes files? What happens if I delete them, are they erased?" , total nonsense because it isn't clearly defined to the user that the song you see is a link to a file and not the actual file.
Here's another nonsense: You connect a camera to your Mac, iPhoto automatically launches, creates a new folder, moves the files form the camera to that folder and places the photos in it's library, all this is done behind the scenes, the novice user has no idea the iPhoto just created folders without him knowing. Now, are the pictures he sees the files? How does he know that? And where exactly are the files at?
Anytime you hide info you get into trouble. It's just not a good solution.
If you truly believe that then you absolutely hate the Open/Save dialog.
And you also hate the fact that it wouldn't matter where your files are.
Questions you'll have to ponder on: how does the novice user know that the icons he sees in the Finder are files? How does he know that the items he sees in the Open dialog are files? Why should he care?
The only info that is being hidden is the info novice user doesn't care about.
Making the Finder handle and manage every type of file is a ridiculous waste of resources. Not only will the Finder never be able to manage the specific needs of a file, there a kind of redundancy (like you said) that confuses people...people wonder if they have to use iTunes to manage their music or if they have to use the Finder.
I once tried to sit down and sketch up how the Finder could handle all the metadata that was available for files. I quickly realized it was near impossible to create an easy-to-use GUI to allow someone to quickly navigate to the file he wanted.
The Finder is the jack-of-all-trades. It isn't particularly good at doing what it does and never will be.
Opening files and saving them should be left to the app. Like I said, I don't care if it's a custom built manager that handles a file's specific needs or if it's the Open/Save dialog that automatically filters out the files that can't be recognized and gives the user pertinent metadata browsing choices...but this is how it's got to be.
There's already too much confusion as to why an Open/Save dialog exists when the Finder could be used to open and save files instead. Or why the Spotlight window exists if the Finder can do everything the Spotlight window can *and* more.
There shouldn't be a middleman. The Finder shouldn't exist.
The only file manager that should exist is one that ties up loose ends and allows grouping of files. And, yes, addabox, the searching would happen in that app.
Metadata may not be a savior...but it's better than the current hierarchical system where there's no metadata and if you misplace a file (don't remember file path) and don't remember its name, there's absolutely no way to find it unless you go through every folder. At least with metadata files get freebies tacked onto them allowing them to be found any number of way.
All things being equal, someone finding a file by filtering metadata will do so more rapidly than someone that is going through every folder. Why? People remember metadata more easily than exact file names and file paths.
People remember that the file they're looking for was a picture or a newsletter before they remember the name of the picture or newsletter.