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post #1 of 45
4/21/02 at 2:59pm
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Features I would like to see:
  • Drag, Drop and Burn on CD/DVD
  • 40X CD-R Burning (if not already supported)
  • Fast MP3 recording
  • Rip offline and tag with Deferred CD lookup
  • Create custom CD Labels with graphic borders
  • Print up to 150 song titles on one MP3 CD cover
  • Scalable Artist/Album panes in "Browse" view
  • Completely unrelated but give us a damn Scroll Wheel Mouse, Apple. I have thousands of songs <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> !!!

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post #2 of 45
4/21/02 at 3:03pm
The custom-CD labeler would work great with iPhoto, with the ability to drag & drop a picture and have iTunes (or iPhoto) fit the picture onto the shape of a CD, plus have a liner notes feature where a user could create a songlist and perhaps a narrative for the backside. Great for unsigned bands or making mix CD's for friends. I find myself fudging the process with Office X or Appleworks all too often.

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post #3 of 45
4/22/02 at 7:32pm
You know, I think I'd only be perfectly satisfied with it, if it turned out to be that one player which delivered that feature that I've been looking for since the dawn of mp3s... completely seamless transitions between tracks. Two or three of the CDs that I ripped to mp3s have tracks that just flow into each other as though they were one composition -- which some of them really are, of course. But none of the mp3 players I've ever used (PC or Mac) can recreate that seamless transition perfectly. I even diddled around with the iTunes crossfade effect, which is cool and all, but it still doesn't quite make the cut.

[Edit: Oh yeah... and I think I'll have to second that request for a scrollwheel mouse. ]

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post #4 of 45
4/23/02 at 11:24am
a built-in streamer or plug-in archtecture allowing one would be great too...
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post #5 of 45
4/23/02 at 1:50pm
CPU Usage ...iTunes just can't suck 10% CPU of a 733G4 ... it's just an MP3 player ...
WinAmp sucks 0.5-5% ...max ...
Don't mean to cause a flame war, but it really need some optimization in this area.


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post #6 of 45
4/23/02 at 2:39pm
I would like to make playlists of playlists. I listen to a lot of electronic music but also like the random play. Quite a bit of electronic music comes on albums where each song flows into the next. In these situations, I would like to force iTunes to link to the next song instead of pulling some other randome song-- sort of a conditional random play.

I really really don't think it would be all that hard to implement. Programmers out there-- it would only take another level of encapsulation, correct? C++ programs, see what i mean? :
list&lt; list&lt;song&gt; &gt; instead of list&lt;song&gt;
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post #7 of 45
4/23/02 at 5:51pm
iTunes must remember the state of everything when quit. I want to be returned to the exact song at the exact instant I left it. Also I would like the same shuffling; I want to be able to reshuffle only when I ask for it to be done.
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post #8 of 45
4/23/02 at 5:56pm
[quote]Originally posted by Sarc:
<strong>CPU Usage ...iTunes just can't suck 10% CPU of a 733G4 ... it's just an MP3 player ...
WinAmp sucks 0.5-5% ...max ...
Don't mean to cause a flame war, but it really need some optimization in this area.


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Yep, I agree.
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post #9 of 45
4/23/02 at 6:22pm
If the next version of itunes keeps all of the current features, but lessens the amount of cpu usage significantly, will be a very happy camper.
It slows my 333 iMac to a crawl..well it could be worse, but when itunes is playing things are as sluggish as they were with the Public Beta of X.

Only one more year until i get my new machine...
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post #10 of 45
4/23/02 at 8:05pm
I'd like to establish a 'Favorite Streams' list (a nice feature of Audion's).

I'd like to specify 1 or more partitions / volumes, and have iTunes sync the library w/ the current contents of the specified source(s); I'd like a button, menu item, or key combo to trigger the re-sync at will.
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post #11 of 45
4/23/02 at 9:16pm
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[quote]Originally posted by Sarc:
<strong>CPU Usage ...iTunes just can't suck 10% CPU of a 733G4 ... it's just an MP3 player ...
WinAmp sucks 0.5-5% ...max ...
Don't mean to cause a flame war, but it really need some optimization in this area.


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I agree because I will be mostly using iTunes at school on my TiBook.

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post #12 of 45
4/23/02 at 9:48pm
[quote]Originally posted by Capt. Obvious:
<strong>I'd like to establish a 'Favorite Streams' list (a nice feature of Audion's).

I'd like to specify 1 or more partitions / volumes, and have iTunes sync the library w/ the current contents of the specified source(s); I'd like a button, menu item, or key combo to trigger the re-sync at will.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Maybe i'm misunderstanding, but if by streams, you mean the radio from the radio tuner, you can already do this. just drag the channel over to a playlist.
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post #13 of 45
4/24/02 at 6:26am
What iTunes really needs: Built-in file management--

- I want to be able to rename all the actual files based on the ID3 tags for nice consistancy (i.e. so I can quickly locate the song on the drive). Building in/integrating the capabilities of AudiferousID3 would be way cool.

- I want to use iTunes to have actual file management capabilities. If I don't want it in iTunes, I don't want it on my drive. So when I delete a song from my library, also remove the file (the usual warning option should be present, of course). Currently I use the AppleScript that Apple put out <a href="http://www.apple.com/applescript/itunes/" target="_blank">www.apple.com/applescript/itunes/</a>, but I'd like to see this fully built-in. (Of course, iPhoto needs this feature more badly than iTunes ;-).

- Oh yeah, I second the "use less CPU" request, too! ;-)

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post #14 of 45
4/24/02 at 8:10am
Arakageeta:
[quote]sort of a conditional random play.<hr></blockquote>

This is why God gave us playlists.

I agree 100% with the advanced file management and this right here, which is IMO vital:
"I'd like to specify 1 or more partitions / volumes, and have iTunes sync the library w/ the current contents of the specified source(s); I'd like a button, menu item, or key combo to trigger the re-sync at will."
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post #15 of 45
4/24/02 at 9:57am
iTunes needs the following:
Greatly reduce CPU usage
LAME support
Return all lost SoundJam features
Get rid of the brushed-metal look (I can't stand it)
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post #16 of 45
4/24/02 at 10:25am
Why is this in the OSX forum?
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post #17 of 45
4/24/02 at 12:45pm
Good question...
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post #18 of 45
4/25/02 at 1:58pm
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Yeah, it seems that iTunes doesn;t have full ID3v2 capabilities. Sure, I can encode to v2.3 but what real difference does it make if iTunes can't do anything with it. I think this echoes the File-Management requests.
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post #19 of 45
4/25/02 at 2:02pm
One thing iTunes is great for is making sure all the ID3 tags are correct. You should be able to still manipulate those if you wish while adding the more advanced file management features.
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post #20 of 45
4/25/02 at 8:39pm
Why do people hate the brushed metal look of iTunes and QuickTime so much? Just wondering, since I personally like it. Do you want a more Aqua looking thing with horizontal lines of alternating brightness (like the menubars in OS X)?

BTW, for those of you who don't like brushed metal, there are a number of files on resexcellence.com that change the background, just in case you didn't know.

As for my suggestions, I'd like to be able to find any songs that are in my library but not in a playlist. Also I'd like to be able to search for all my music files at any time, not just the first time it's opened after installation. Finally, it would be nice for the installer to be able to install it on any drive, not just the current startup drive, because I have two drives on my computer and I had to install the system software on the larger external drive and boot from it just to install iTunes on it.
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post #21 of 45
4/26/02 at 2:33pm
Zero gap between songs.

This is not the same as crossfading. I'm talking about zero gap -- what you hear when you listen to a CD like Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club or tons of classical CDs where songs go across track listings. (Also happens in some electronica)

Do this, and iTunes is perfect for my needs. Less CPU utilization is always nice, of course.
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post #22 of 45
4/26/02 at 3:32pm
There are some new formats out there that offer better quality than MP3. Support for them would be nice. They could at least provide support for Mp3+ which is backwards compatible with Mp3 codecs. It's similar in principle to HDCD in that it embeds extra high frequency information in the bit-stream in such a way that a non Mp3+ codec will simply read the Mp3 part as a regular Mp3. It's not an issue for iPod, which can be upgraded, but it might be a concern if you want to burn some disc for an Mp3 capable CD/DVD player (which likely isn't upgradeable. An Mp3+ isn't supposed to take up any more room than an Mp3 of the same bit rate.

Also, HDD's keep getting bigger and cheaper, so why not up the maximum bit-rate? Apple stops at 320kbps but I think (not sure) you can get MP3 all the way up to 384 or 448 ? At the latter size it would be nearly a third of the bitrate of a CD, but if you have the HD space, why not?
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post #23 of 45
4/26/02 at 3:40pm
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[quote]Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
<strong>Why do people hate the brushed metal look of iTunes and QuickTime so much? </strong><hr></blockquote>

I think it's a little too big (too much wasted space) I would welcome a third, middle view between minimized and maximized that fully displayed libraries and playlists but reduced this amount of wasted space.

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Also I'd like to be able to search for all my music files at any time, not just the first time it's opened after installation. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Adding music to my iTunes library can occasionally be painful. I must either decide between Quicktime launching all MP3 files or iTunes launching them. The latter's problems deal with previewing music before the download is complete. You see, iTunes would create a new file every time I do so. I decided to add my iTunes Music Library to my Shared Folders settings on Limewire. There I can drag and drop songs from "Shared" to "iTunes Music Library" easily.

Updated/ Organized Wishlist Features
  • CD/ DVD Burning:Drag, Drop and Burn on CD/DVD
    40X CD-R Burning (if not already supported)
  • CD/ DVD Ripping:
    Fast MP3 recording
    Rip offline and tag with Deferred CD lookup
    Create custom CD Labels with graphic borders (Convergence feature with iPhoto)
    Print up to 150 song titles on one MP3 CD cover
  • Interface Inhancements:
    Scalable Artist/Album panes in "Browse" view
    Option to remember state of last use
    Interface with less wasted space
  • Application Inhancements:
    Plug-in Architecture
    Reduced CPU usage
    Advanced ID3 Tag editor
    Built-in File Management (Option to remove file when deleting item from playlist)
    Sync with multiple drives (mirrored folders, etc.)
    MP3+ Support
    Higher bit-rate Support
    MP3 Editor (Megamix anyone?)
    Option for Color Spectral Analyzer like those found in aftermarket car radios
  • Playback Improvements:
    Seamless transitions between tracks
    Option of same shuffling (reshuffling on need)

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post #24 of 45
4/29/02 at 7:55am
quicktime 6 is around the corner and some mobile mp3 cd-players can handle AAC. an option for AAC additional to MP3 would be cool ...
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post #25 of 45
4/30/02 at 1:54pm
Maybe you can configure this somehow already -

I'd like a transport (like the minimized main iTunes window) that always stays on top and allows me to skip tracks without actually switching apps or taking more than one mouseclick. My natural keyboard lets me do this in OS X, but I have not found a way to do it in OS 9.
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post #26 of 45
5/1/02 at 8:42am
OK, so I just realized that you can basically do this in OS X, but not in OS 9. I wish I could do it it OS 9. That is all.
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post #27 of 45
5/1/02 at 8:56am
Just for the hell of it, I'd like the iPod controls to be able to control iTunes when it's plugged in. Kind of like a wired remote. Important? No. Useful? Probably not. Neat? Sure.
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post #28 of 45
5/1/02 at 8:57am
The ONLY thing I ask for is when you rip a CD that it will give it a track number on the file name (not the ID3 tag). Is that so much to ask Apple? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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post #29 of 45
5/1/02 at 11:00am
i am not a regular apple user, however, i agree with all your comments and would like to state that the colour scheme is a bit boring and find making a playlist whilst listening to another impossible?

does anybody else have the same problem <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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post #30 of 45
5/1/02 at 8:01pm
I would like to see the ability to encode/ decode the Ogg Vorbis codec, and the LAME codec. The only software that I know of that will support Ogg Vorbis... as of now anyway.... is Audion. Its such a cool codec.
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post #31 of 45
5/1/02 at 9:04pm
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[quote]Originally posted by unknown_source:
<strong>The ONLY thing I ask for is when you rip a CD that it will give it a track number on the file name (not the ID3 tag). Is that so much to ask Apple? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

Why? That's like going from bad file management to worse.
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post #32 of 45
6/12/04 at 9:42pm
Color labels for mood.

please
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post #33 of 45
6/13/04 at 11:40am
-Offer to download artwork
-CD-FREAKIN-TEXT. DUH! It sucks to have discs without track names and artist info.

-A way to "fix" the library. I have thousands of broken links from stuff that was moved around on my internal drive. I'm lazy and I don't want to lose all my ratings.

That's all for now, will dredge up my iTunes 5 thread here.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...ghlight=itunes

Lots of good ideas in that thread, maybe we should resurrect it since an iTunes 5 thread comes out every week.

And of course they'll add something cool we didn't know we needed, like Party Shuffle, Smart Playlists, etc. And they should update the visualizer!
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post #34 of 45
6/13/04 at 1:51pm
I'd like to be able to search the music store by song lyrics.
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post #35 of 45
6/13/04 at 3:52pm
What I would really like is an update to the music store. I would like to buy a particular cd for a person instead of giving a gift certificate. I once wanted to buy a rolling stones album for my cousin, but I couldnt do that though iTunes so i bought the actual CD instead.

I think this would be a good addition because it allows people to do "old-school purchasing" for a friend or family member.
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post #36 of 45
6/13/04 at 4:18pm
Maybe the engeneers could tweak it for CPU USAGE the thing is sorta slugish on my 2 ghz P4 and takes 90 seconds to load on my sub-1ghz box, I figure it should take less time than photoshop to load because all it does is play/stream/download music.
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post #37 of 45
6/13/04 at 4:22pm
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Color labels for mood.

please

mood rings? what will you want next? Pet rocks?
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post #38 of 45
6/13/04 at 4:36pm
See how in iCal if you click the Search Results button, a pane appears at the bottom? I want that but with an extended graphic E.Q. I want a bigger range, like 20 band or more. And I don't want it in a floating window. (Retain the old one make mine as an option).
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post #39 of 45
6/13/04 at 6:02pm
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What iTunes really needs: Built-in file management--

- I want to be able to rename all the actual files based on the ID3 tags for nice consistancy (i.e. so I can quickly locate the song on the drive). Building in/integrating the capabilities of AudiferousID3 would be way cool.

ctrl-click any song in itunes and there is an option to have it open the enclosing folder of the file.
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post #40 of 45
6/13/04 at 8:42pm
Or Command-R. Now what I want is to able to select more than one song and it will open either all enclosing windows are a Finder window with all the songs. Now that would be a new area for the Finder. This "window" would NOT be a folder as all the files would be in different folders. It would be a search window. Since that's the way the Finder seems to be going, more as a browser less as a folder viewer, that would be a good way to kick off further evolution of the Finder (continuing in Tiger)

Yeah more EQ bands and make it a Drawer. Just kidding!! Drawers are so weird.

CPU usage is an interesting and important point but you have to consider that iTunes does more than most other players. I'm sure as time goes on it will get more efficient, and perhaps this might be in conjunction with QuickTime 7. Anyone know how CPU usage went from iTunes 1, to 2, to 3, to 4, all the way to 4.5? Would be interesting to note.
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