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Analysts for Needham & Co this week said they believe Apple will hold a special media event sometime in April to unveil Intel-based iBooks and a touch-screen video iPod.

"At the end of his Macworld keynote address in January, Steve Jobs, AppleÂs CEO, noted that the company will celebrate its 30th birthday on April 1, 2006," analyst Charles Wolf wrote in a research note released to clients on Thursday. "While itÂs possible that Jobs was simply pointing out the longevity of Apple, we interpret it as a signal that Apple will hold a major birthday party in the form of new product event around that date, most likely in early April."

In recent weeks, sources have told AppleInsider that Apple is preparing for a special event to introduce new products, but were short on specifics and did not provide a precise time-frame.

"The one sure-fire product Apple has to introduce is an iBook running on the Intel single core Yonah processor," wrote Wolf.Â*The analyst notes that the K-12 school-buying season begins in May; and the iBook represents an increasing fraction of Apple sales in this market. "Failure to have an Intel iBook ready for the school-buying season could significantly jeopardize AppleÂs education sales," the analyst added.

Wolf also believes that Apple will use the event introduce the "real" video iPod. "Apple was careful to call the iPod capable of displaying video that it introduced in October just thatÂan iPod that played music but also featured a video viewing capability," he wrote.Â* "According to our sources, the screen on the Video iPod will occupy the entire front of the current iPod with a touch-activated scroll wheel."

Assuming the iPod retains the fifth-generation form factor, this move will increase the size of the screen three-fold, the analyst said.

In supporting his predictions, Wolf said his conviction that a Video iPod will be introduced stems from two events. The first is that the company is rapidly increasing the video content available at the iTunes Music Store.

"In view of AppleÂs increasingly cozy relationship with Disney, we would not be surprised to see ESPNÂs Sport Center show up at the store in the near future," the analyst wrote.Â*"In our opinion, the rapid increase in the iTMSÂs video offerings is a strong signal that an iPod with a much larger screen is on the way."

The other event that could signal the imminent arrival of the video iPod, according to Wolf, are reports coming out of Asia that Apple has materially reduced its orders of the iPod with video viewing capabilities that it introduced last October.

"One hypothesis is that sales of this model have fallen below AppleÂs previous expectations for the quarter," the analyst wrote. "An equally plausible hypothesis is that Apple is draining inventories of the iPod from the distribution channel in advance of its introduction of the new model."

In making his predictions, Wolf noted that products Apple might introduce at its April event could extend beyond the Intel iBook and video iPod.Â*The analyst noted that an Intel-based Mac mini destine for the living room may also be in the cards.

Needham & Co maintains a "hold" rating on Apple shares.
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Been holding out for the real video iPod so that's interesting news...but also waiting for a larger screen MacBook Pro, hopefully that is launched at the same time as the new iBooks! I've gotten used to my PB G4 with the s-video out!! Hopefully the next MacBook Pro will have that as well!
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Think Secret also holds the new iPod video rumor is confirmed .

It should be pretty nice... I have always felt that the iPod with video was an iPod that did video and that when Apple makes a true video device, it will be obvious.

3.5 inch screen... going after the PSP?

Will also likely launch with tons of new video content.

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Think Secret also holds the new iPod video rumor is confirmed .

It should be pretty nice... I have always felt that the iPod with video was an iPod that did video and that when Apple makes a true video device, it will be obvious.

3.5 inch screen... going after the PSP?

Will also likely launch with tons of new video content.

Here we go again...

oh well, of course there will be a new iPod with video, seeing as how I JUST BOUGHT A 60GB VIDEO IPOD.

sigh... anyone want an octo intel duo-core? 'cause all it'll take is for me to buy a quad G5.
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oh well, of course there will be a new iPod with video, seeing as how I JUST BOUGHT A 60GB VIDEO IPOD.

Such is the inevitable march of progress.
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Such is the inevitable march of progress.

i know. at least i'm not saying "I AM INFURIATED!" or anything.

also, a full face touch screen? that's gonna be a bitch to keep clean and scratch free, and i would also assume it's gonna cause headaches for case makers like iSkin to keep it protected, but still transfer the touches well. and if it's now supposed to be viewed landscape (for widescreen stuff), that renders, of course, ALL 3rd party speakers, alarm clocks, docks, etc. obsolete.

which supports one theory i had with a friend's efforts to create a plug-in based business years ago... if you have a parasitic business model, you will always be at least one step behind your host, no matter how hard you work.
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Don't know about the touch screen (smudges and scratches and whatnot).

The size of the current (standard) iPod is very close to a 16:9 aspect ratio (when turned sideways...which makes me recall some other patent Apple recently filed about some motion sensing and screen changing technology).

What if this thing worked as follows:

- vertical: "screen" is just like it is now, with the touch-screen "click-wheel" in the bottom half.

- horizontal: just turn the thing, viewing area automatically rotates, for standard iPod videos it takes only about half the screen, and the touch-screen "click-wheel" in the right half...but...for wide-screen video...it can consume the entire screen.
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The ipod sounds cool...but please for God's sake, I do NOT want to see the core solo in any apple machines. At the very least, limit it to one cheapo model of the ibook but have duo configs available as well.

The solo version isn't much faster than a G4, the speed boost comes primarily from the dual cores.
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When will people get that the dual core chip is too expensive for the ibook line?
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They are meant to be a bitch to keep clean and scratch-free. Its called 'product bonding' and its marketing genius.

V-pod is inevitable as is the touch screen interface.
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Don't know about the touch screen (smudges and scratches and whatnot).

The size of the current (standard) iPod is very close to a 16:9 aspect ratio (when turned sideways...which makes me recall some other patent Apple recently filed about some motion sensing and screen changing technology).

What if this thing worked as follows:

- vertical: "screen" is just like it is now, with the touch-screen "click-wheel" in the bottom half.

- horizontal: just turn the thing, viewing area automatically rotates, for standard iPod videos it takes only about half the screen, and the touch-screen "click-wheel" in the right half...but...for wide-screen video...it can consume the entire screen.

i seem to recall the same auto-sensing thing, but i would assume it would be rendered useless if on a flat surface (like a table or lap). but maybe they assume it'll almost always be in a dock. but then, to ensure that, i would think they'd need to start including a dock again in the box. plus, what would that do for the dock connector? would it be sticking out the side when i widescreen mode? weird.
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I imagine that it will have the automatic orientation sensor, so it'll work completely normally an docking stations (including speaker systems with docks, etc. Default mode will probably be "iPod emulation", in which the front looks exactly like a current iPod, with emulated touch wheel. Don't know exactly how they are going to provide controls when it's in landscape video mode, though, maybe a pop-up scrollwheel when you touch the screen?

There are many ways to go on this, but I'd be completely *shocked* if it didn't work seemlessly in vertical docks (hey, they only just came out with the universal dock system!)

Should be pretty cool. Let's see what the battery life is like...
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I hope Apple adds card slots to this unit as well. Think about this thing being a video/photo playback and storage unit. Add CF/SD and Memory Stick slots and it becomes the must have accessory for Aperture users. Add RAW support and you got a sale from me.
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I hope Apple adds card slots to this unit as well.

Hmmm...let's see...

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I am proud of myself... I predicted this all by myself about two weeks ago. I currently have a 3G iPod and was checking out my buddies 5G when I thought why not make the whole face a freakin screen and use a touch screen of some sort so you can have the scroll wheel overlay the video and stuff with the nice Apple white transparent look.

I am glad I held out on the iPod with video for the real VIDEO iPOD
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When will people get that the dual core chip is too expensive for the ibook line?

The price difference between the Solo and the lower speed Duos were around $40 in quantities of 1,000. Apple would have a far lower cost difference so the decision might be made on the marketing impact of being "all dual core". Years ago American Airlines ran a very heavy advertising program when they became the first airline to be 100% jets - obviously in the days before the props returned . . .

I believe that Apple has looked at both options and their ramifications. Duo would sell better at the university level and Solo at the (K-12) market. But other potential problems, read memory, might push the Solo. We might also see Duo in the consumer ranges and a Solo for the education market only.

There are lots of issues to address, but I believe that Apple will want the iBook replacement to be a line that will kick ass in the market - and that might be where the Duo comes into play.
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The price difference between the Solo and the lower speed Duos were around $40 in quantities of 1,000. Apple would have a far lower cost difference so the decision might be made on the marketing impact of being "all dual core". Years ago American Airlines ran a very heavy advertising program when they became the first airline to be 100% jets - obviously in the days before the props returned . . .

I believe that Apple has looked at both options and their ramifications. Duo would sell better at the university level and Solo at the (K-12) market. But other potential problems, read memory, might push the Solo. We might also see Duo in the consumer ranges and a Solo for the education market only.

There are lots of issues to address, but I believe that Apple will want the iBook replacement to be a line that will kick ass in the market - and that might be where the Duo comes into play.

I think you're on the right track. Apple in the past has offered special machines for the EDU sector that were slightly less powerful and skimped on features, but were cheaper. I think many consumers would gladly pay $50 for dual core all things being equal, but certain EDU markets would easily rather save the extra $$. Ideally this will be a BTO option.
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Hmmm...let's see...

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I know it would make too much sense.



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I know it would make too much sense.



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Apple could soooo do this. Imagine capturing the portable video and Photography enthusiasts in one product!

With Apple, I think they'd make it a different product. But yes, they could.
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on appleinsider news an investement company thinks new products may include an iphone/ apple branded cell phone--look at the third from last paragraph. as more broadband comes available for cellphones than more content can be delivered

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Apple also has a patent where the whole screen functions as a camera. Now wouldn't it be cool if the new iPod is also capable of doing photo's/video through this screen? That and a cell-phone and I'm a happy camper.
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Please, please, please add a slide out keyboard like the OQO and make it run OSX. ;-)

With rumours of Intel's Ruby handheld PC platform being ready for release soon from ASUS (the company that builds Apple's laptops), perhaps this is isn't so far from reality.
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"Analyst predicts"

That get's more funny every time I see it. "Analyst predicts" How many times have you seen that line of sh*t?
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Gee folks...

- card slots
- hidden (behind screen camera)
- slide out keyboard
- runs OS X

This is going to be the most expensive Swiss Army Knife(tm) ever.

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The ipod sounds cool...but please for God's sake, I do NOT want to see the core solo in any apple machines. At the very least, limit it to one cheapo model of the ibook but have duo configs available as well.

The solo version isn't much faster than a G4, the speed boost comes primarily from the dual cores.

Yes, can you imagine Rosetta running on one of those machines?
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i have a word for you (2 actually):

Batt Life


a much bigger screen would eat the batt for breakfast, and if it has to have real video capabilities, this ipod better have no less than 5 hour batt playing VIDEO.

this thing is going to be THICK to make room for such a fat battery.


and now that you're at it, please apple, include a stylus and a mini osx version, so this new ipod turns into the newton we're all been waiting for years.
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Gee folks...

- card slots
- hidden (behind screen camera)
- slide out keyboard
- runs OS X

This is going to be the most expensive Swiss Army Knife(tm) ever.


Also: it must include a video projector or Apple will go out of business.
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Yes, can you imagine Rosetta running on one of those machines?

Thats a good point actually - apple may be forced into using dual core as the performance of any rosetta apps would be shocking using the solo.
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"Analyst predicts"

That get's more funny every time I see it. "Analyst predicts" How many times have you seen that line of sh*t?

When you run out of actual inside sources for rumors, your next best bet are analysts. They're just about the same, but know a little less.

Maybe this site should change to "AppleAnalyst"
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ABSOLUTELY! I bet Apple's uber-hip marketing will take cues (finally) from epson, naming it the P-2000!

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wheres my tablet ! * ! Oh please apple please http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/
hurry up apps


DAMN, I want one of those, I don't care how much, where can I get one?
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When will people get that the dual core chip is too expensive for the ibook line?

Oh? When will people get that the Duo and solo barely differ in price?

Intel Core Duo Processor\tT2300\tDual 1.66 GHz\t$241
Intel Core Solo Processor\tT1300\tSingle 1.66 GHz\t$209

32 dollars more puts it out of the price range? And you do realize that the high end iBook is only $200 less than the low end powerbook, right? I'm not saying they should make ALL iBooks, the duo, but it should at least be available on the pricier models.

With price differences that small, I don't know why any company would want to use the Solo.

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Yes, can you imagine Rosetta running on one of those machines?

Bingo. The duo is not just a great speed bump, but practially necessary to help with the slowness of rosetta.
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Of course that line of thinking assumes the processor is the only place there is added cost when using a duo instead of solo
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have u ever seen those mirrors with the TV screens in them? They look like a mirror until turned on. I was thinking that what apple could do is have the front look exactly the same with a real click wheel, not a touch screen, and then on the back also have it look the same with them etal plating, but when a video plays, it plays on the back and the metal reveals a widescreen screen. That would be the most elegant way that i can think of apple doing this whole video thing. And it would be UBER awesome.
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So, jivebaby, what kind of music do you record?
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here's a quick lil movie (80k) I made for the iPod video. Yeah, the timing is off, but the idea you can get.
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I understand that with current iPods, to reset the device you hold menu and select. How would you do something like this with a touch screen device? Are there touch screens that can detect more than one finger at a time? If not, do you think Apple would put other buttons to do resets and enter diagnostic mode?
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I understand that with current iPods, to reset the device you hold menu and select. How would you do something like this with a touch screen device? Are there touch screens that can detect more than one finger at a time? If not, do you think Apple would put other buttons to do resets and enter diagnostic mode?

Even if it could detect two fingers at time, it wouldn't because most often you need to reset it because the system isn't responding. They better add a switch, because I have to reset my 30GB Black iPod at least once every two weeks. Maybe the trick to resetting a touch-screen iPod will be to soak it in warm water?
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Originally posted by minderbinder
Oh? When will people get that the Duo and solo barely differ in price?

Intel Core Duo Processor\tT2300\tDual 1.66 GHz\t$241
Intel Core Solo Processor\tT1300\tSingle 1.66 GHz\t$209

32 dollars more puts it out of the price range? And you do realize that the high end iBook is only $200 less than the low end powerbook, right? I'm not saying they should make ALL iBooks, the duo, but it should at least be available on the pricier models.

With price differences that small, I don't know why any company would want to use the Solo.

minderbinder, Apple's currently using the lowest-clocked Core Duo chip available in the $1999 MacBook Pro. If they put that same chip in the $1499 and $1,299 price ranges, what's going to make the $1999 MacBook Pro worth that much to a buyer? Especially when you factor in the rumored 13" 1280x800 screen the iBooks will be getting, there isn't anything else that could justify the $600 price difference. And I highly doubt Apple's going to drop the 15" MacBook Pro price by hundreds of dollars the month after it starts shipping in quantity.

Apple's selling the 15" MacBook Pro for too much for them to be able to use anything but a Core Solo in the iBooks.
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