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post #41 of 156
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Originally posted by Slotracer152
I'm on the phone with them now trying to upgrade 1.83 (now 2.0) that is supposed to ship tomorrow to a 2.16. I'll let you guys know how this goes. \

Please do, i feel like a moron having ordered it some weeks ago.. i wan't the fastest one!!
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post #42 of 156
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Originally posted by sternone
Please do, i feel like a moron having ordered it some weeks ago.. i wan't the fastest one!!

Well the first lady I talked to said that the upgrade might delay it 3-4 weeks, so I got on the Apple Store. It said shipping time were 1-3 days, so I called back, cancelled my original order, and reordered the 2.16. I just checked my order status online and its giving me the shipping date of March 15th now. I might be calling back.
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post #44 of 156
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Originally posted by Slotracer152
Well the first lady I talked to said that the upgrade might delay it 3-4 weeks, so I got on the Apple Store. It said shipping time were 1-3 days, so I called back, cancelled my original order, and reordered the 2.16. I just checked my order status online and its giving me the shipping date of March 15th now. I might be calling back.

I talked to them again. They said the ship times on the Apple Store are wrong. Boo for that. Oh well. As long as I keep computers, I want to make sure I have the top of the line. I'm running on my 1ghz TiBook still. Its over three years old.
post #45 of 156
The spec bump is nice, but if I preordered one I'd be a little miffed because I'd want a 2.16 GHz Core Duo too! This would be 18% faster than the previous top-of-the-line 1.83 GHz unit!

Based on my previous MacBook tests, I'd estimate that the 2.16 GHz MacBooks are on par with Dual 2 GHz G5s for audio and video encoding. I'm eager to see how they really perform.
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post #46 of 156
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Originally posted by Xool
The spec bump is nice, but if I preordered one I'd be a little miffed because I'd want a 2.16 GHz Core Duo too! This would be 18% faster than the previous top-of-the-line 1.83 GHz unit!

Based on my previous MacBook tests, I'd estimate that the 2.16 GHz MacBooks are on par with Dual 2 GHz G5s for audio and video encoding. I'm eager to see how they really perform.

Auch, your message hurts!!! I will call them tomorrow to change my order.. but i will have to wait longer!! argh
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post #47 of 156
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Originally posted by kim kap sol
Sorry but 1.5 inches is not smaller than 1 inch. Go back to grade school. Do not collect 200 dollars.

edit: Sony's site says 1.3 inches. Other sites say 1.5.

Sony's site says 0.9 to 1.3 inches. Last I checked 0.9 is less than 1.

It's also 1.6" narrower, 0.3" less deep and weighs almost 2 pound less, yet packs a dual layer DVD writer and 7 hour battery life.
post #48 of 156
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Originally posted by Nautical
Ah, so you're problem with this is that the high-end configuration just got significantly more expensive? Then I can understand your pain. While this is unfortunate for you, I don't think it will be a big problem for that many people. Most will just be happy that they got faster machines at no additional expense.

It's not the cost, it's the fact that I wanted the top-end model, and they've changed the top-end model fairly significantly (330 Mhz).
post #49 of 156
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Originally posted by aegisdesign
Sony's site says 0.9 to 1.3 inches. Last I checked 0.9 is less than 1.

So you only think size is important at the narrowest point? In that case they should have a little part that sticks out that's only .1 inches thick - then you could claim that as the thickness of the unit!

Will the Sony fit into a space .9 inches wide? No. You need a space 1.3 inches wide. 1.3 is more than 1. The sony is thicker, period. And to claim it's thinner is some of the more tortured logic I've seen lately.
post #50 of 156
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Originally posted by BRussell
It's not the cost, it's the fact that I wanted the top-end model, and they've changed the top-end model fairly significantly (330 Mhz).

But if you don't change your order, you're only down 160 from the top end, not 330.

Speeding machines up for free is good, isn't it?
post #51 of 156
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Originally posted by aegisdesign
Sony's site says 0.9 to 1.3 inches. Last I checked 0.9 is less than 1.

It's also 1.6" narrower, 0.3" less deep and weighs almost 2 pound less, yet packs a dual layer DVD writer and 7 hour battery life.

It's a 13.3-inch laptop. 1280x800 resolution. Of course it's gonna be smaller and lighter.

The two don't even begin to compare.
post #52 of 156
Apple has done this several times.

I ordered the Titanium PowerBook as soon as it was released and the top end was only 450 Mhz, but I received an email one day saying that I would get a 500 Mhz. How beautiful it was when I first got it, and it still runs things pretty damn well for being four years old.

There were two others in our office.. One was a dual G4 that bumped up from 1.2 to 1.42 (I think maybe it was that the inventory had run out on the 1.2 in this case). The other was when the iMac G5 was first introduced. I don't remember exactly, but we got a 1.8 and it was supposed to be 1.6 or something).

I wonder if they do it on purpose to make you more excited about your purchase and as a way to make you feel better about having to wait a while for your new $2-3k purchase. I know it works on me, even though I'm usually excited anyway.
post #53 of 156
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Originally posted by minderbinder
But if you don't change your order, you're only down 160 from the top end, not 330.

Speeding machines up for free is good, isn't it?

Yeah, but I can't ignore the fact that there's a different top-end now. I'd just prefer that they do what they say they're going to do.
post #54 of 156
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Originally posted by BRussell
Yeah, but I can't ignore the fact that there's a different top-end now. I'd just prefer that they do what they say they're going to do.

So you'd rather get 1.8 than 2.0 for the same price? Very smart.
post #55 of 156
wow apple. i'm lovin intel right now.


best valentines gift i could get today, girlfriend got shit on apple.



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pleased customer.




p.s anyone saying "meh" to this announcement can lick it. anytime a purchaser gets a FREE updgrade its a good thing,

how can it ever be a bad thing? idiots.
post #56 of 156
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Originally posted by Chucker
It's a 13.3-inch laptop. 1280x800 resolution. Of course it's gonna be smaller and lighter.

The two don't even begin to compare.

The point was that it bodes well for small and lighter Apple notebooks with Core Duo in, not a direct comparison. Kim reckoned there wasn't a smaller notebook with one in.
post #57 of 156
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Originally posted by aegisdesign
Kim reckoned there wasn't a smaller notebook with one in.

And so far, nobody has found a thinner one.
post #58 of 156
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Originally posted by minderbinder
So you'd rather get 1.8 than 2.0 for the same price? Very smart.

Cost is irrelevant to me. I want the top-end, and they've changed it significantly. If they would just do what they say they're going to do, there would be no problems.
post #59 of 156
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Originally posted by BRussell
Cost is irrelevant to me. I want the top-end, and they've changed it significantly. If they would just do what they say they're going to do, there would be no problems.

Regardless of cost, you're still complaining about getting a 2 instead of a 1.8.

So change your damn order if it's that big a deal to you, what's the problem. Seems like you should be grateful they made this switch before the boxes shipped instead of sending yours then updating a week later.
post #60 of 156
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Originally posted by minderbinder
Regardless of cost, you're still complaining about getting a 2 instead of a 1.8.

No, I'm complaining that they changed the top end model, and more generally, I'm complaining that Apple screwed up.
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So change your damn order if it's that big a deal to you, what's the problem. Seems like you should be grateful they made this switch before the boxes shipped instead of sending yours then updating a week later.

Is Apple your mother or something? They mis-predicted what they were going to be able to offer. There's no other way to spin it, unless you're a blind Apple fanboy who thinks this company never screws up.
post #61 of 156
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Originally posted by BRussell
No, I'm complaining that they changed the top end model, and more generally, I'm complaining that Apple screwed up.
Is Apple your mother or something? They mis-predicted what they were going to be able to offer. There's no other way to spin it, unless you're a blind Apple fanboy who thinks this company never screws up.

Wow.

Your thought process is absolutely bizarre.

You consider giving customers a free upgrade "screwing up".

And anyone who thinks a free upgrade is good must be "a blind apple fanboy".

Wow.
post #62 of 156
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Originally posted by minderbinder
You consider giving customers a free upgrade "screwing up".

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Maybe somebody DOESN'T WANT THAT FREE UPGRADE. Ever thought of that?

So if I order a 1.8Ghz Core Duo today and they announce they'll be "upgrading" that to a P4-Mobile at 3.2Ghz with 14 minutes of battery life, you would claim that I should be happy because they're giving me an "upgrade" ?

I wonder whose thought process is bizarre.
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post #63 of 156
This is great news, good job Apple. I think this is a great way for Apple to thank their customers for ordering the MacBook Pro when it was announced. This is great PR and lets customers know that Apple is committed to providing a great value for the money thier customers spend.

I think the option to upgrade to a 2.16 Dual Core processor will give consumers additional incentive to make the switch.

I think that we'll see the Dual Core 1.67 processors show up in the next Mac mini as Apple was probably demonstrating to Intel that demand exists in the market for its computers. For that reason, Apple was able to get better pricing from Intel on the faster chips and hence could upgrade the processors on the MacBooks.

It's a great way for Apple and Intel to begin the relationship.
post #64 of 156
2 questions

1: Will my 1,67 order automatically be 1,8 now or do i have to re-order to get the upgrade?

2: does this whole thing go for europeans too?


never mind, read the other article : Customers who pre-ordered a MacBook Pro from retailers of authorized resellers do not need to adjust their orders in light of the announcement. Apple will automatically update the previous 1.67GHz and 1.83GHz MacBook Pro SKUs to correspond with the faster CPU specs announced today. Therefore, customers who placed orders for 1.67GHz MacBook Pros will receive a 1.83GHz MacBook Pro.

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post #65 of 156
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Originally posted by minderbinder
And so far, nobody has found a thinner one.

As I said, 0.9" is thinner than 1.0".

However,

IBM X60... 0.8" 12.1" screen.

Their T60 is 1.0".
post #66 of 156
Keep in mind that Apple has no control over Intel's chip yield.

I would imagine Intel could not promise Apple enough 2 Ghz chips to meet Apples initial sales needs.

Perhaps the yield has been better than expected so now Intel can promise Apple the 2 Ghz chips it needed.

It seems most of the laptops with 2 Ghz chips were shipping after the expected MBP ship date.

Many assume Apple just did not want the 2 Ghz chips in the first place, but that probably was not the case.
post #67 of 156
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Originally posted by Gene Clean
So if I order a 1.8Ghz Core Duo today and they announce they'll be "upgrading" that to a P4-Mobile at 3.2Ghz with 14 minutes of battery life

Who would consider that an upgrade? \ (where's the "straw man" smiley?)

Don't be silly, this is a faster version of the exact same chip. Do you really think battery life will be significantly lower because the chip is .16 faster?

If you REALLY don't want 2ghz, you can always call and change your order to a 1.8 for the lower price. But I'm sure someone will think of a reason maybe somebody DOESN'T WANT THAT LOWER PRICE.
post #68 of 156
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Originally posted by aegisdesign
As I said, 0.9" is thinner than 1.0".

And that laptop isn't .9, it's 1.3.

Might as well say a 300 pound woman is "skinny" because she has small toes.
post #69 of 156
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Originally posted by amac4me

I think that we'll see the Dual Core 1.67 processors show up in the next Mac mini as Apple was probably demonstrating to Intel that demand exists in the market for its computers. For that reason, Apple was able to get better pricing from Intel on the faster chips and hence could upgrade the processors on the MacBooks.

I'd hope so however, Intel's pricing per 1000 for the T2300 1.66Ghz Core Duo is $241 each. With Mac Mini's at $499, I can't see how they'll do it and maintain a decent margin without massive concessions somewhere.
post #70 of 156
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If I order a 1.8Ghz Core Duo today and they announce they'll be "upgrading" that to a P4-Mobile at 3.2Ghz with 14 minutes of battery life,

This is such an over blown example that has no correlation to what has actually happened in real life.

In real life you get a slightly faster processor at no extra cost which should be a minimal battery difference.

The 1.8 you ordered that is now the 2 is not the fastest as the 2.1 is now the fastest. They are both very fast.
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yeah what about it?
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post #73 of 156
I think Apple has done a great job; no screwup at all. They were conservative based on what Intel said they could deliver. And now that Intel is able to deliver sufficient quantities at the higher end, they're upping the speeds for no additional cost.

The 2.16GHz upgrade is a new option; one that wasn't available when you ordered. Don't see how you can complain that you didn't get the top of the line on the day you ordered. The day you receive your 2GHz model, it will still likely be the top of the line at least for another week or so - since new orders are still facing a 3-4 week wait, regardless of what the Apple Store says. (Customer service says the Store is wrong. It's 3-4 weeks.) If you don't want it, cancel it right now, and order again. No one is making you keep your order.

If Apple were to offer another model 2 months from now, are you going to complain all over again?

And now, I hope, we can have our Core Duo iBook.
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post #74 of 156
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Originally posted by minderbinder
And that laptop isn't .9, it's 1.3.

Might as well say a 300 pound woman is "skinny" because she has small toes.

Whatever. The point was that there's smaller laptops with 1.83 Core Duos in. That's extremely good news for Apple who have yet to produce their smaller laptops.
post #75 of 156
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Originally posted by minderbinder
Wow.

Your thought process is absolutely bizarre.

You consider giving customers a free upgrade "screwing up".

And anyone who thinks a free upgrade is good must be "a blind apple fanboy".

Wow.

I believe you're willfully misunderstanding what I'm saying, because I've repeated it several times. Money was not an issue, and I wanted the top-end model to ensure it lasted as long as possible, but now I'm not sure I'll be able to get it because I have to go through my IT bureaucracy at work. The change could screw up other people who might be satisfied with the 1.8 model and would rather pay a few hundred less than their original order, but now have to cancel and re-order to do so. Those problems would have been avoided if Apple had simply delayed their announcement until they knew what they were doing.

While I was posting this I got an email back from my purchasing people, and my order can't be changed at this point.

I'm sure many people won't care and will just take the new model and be happy, but don't dismiss my concern about the change just because some people will be happy with it.
post #76 of 156
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Originally posted by BRussell
I believe you're willfully misunderstanding what I'm saying, because I've repeated it several times. Money was not an issue, and I wanted the top-end model to ensure it lasted as long as possible, but now I'm not sure I'll be able to get it because I have to go through my IT bureaucracy at work.

I understand what you're saying. I just think your priorities are amazingly out of wack. If you were set to be happy with a 1.8, only a speed queen would consider it LESS able to "last as long as possible".

Sorry. I certainly am going to dismiss your concern. And by concern I mean pointless whining.
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What about the spam here?

Would you quit spamming the damn boards already? There's NO discussion there about anything, it looks like you're just trying to get more hits for your crappy blog.

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yeah what about it?

Well it is interesting what do you think.

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Originally posted by BRussell
I believe you're willfully misunderstanding what I'm saying, because I've repeated it several times. Money was not an issue, and I wanted the top-end model to ensure it lasted as long as possible, but now I'm not sure I'll be able to get it because I have to go through my IT bureaucracy at work. Other people might be satisfied with the 1.8 model and would rather pay a few hundred less than their original order, but now have to cancel and re-order to do so. Those problems would have been avoided if Apple had simply delayed their announcement until they knew what they were doing.

While I was posting this I got an email back from my purchasing people, and my order can't be changed at this point.

I'm sure many people won't care and will just take the new model and be happy, but don't dismiss my concern about the change just because some people will be happy with it.

I'd say *most* people will be happy with this change. The overwhelming majority for sure.
post #80 of 156
hmmm not that interesting really

what do you find interesting about it? am i missing something?

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