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Apple Computer this week began providing to its developers the first external pre-release builds of Mac OS X 10.4.6 -- the sixth maintenance update to the company's Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger operating system, which made its debut last April.

According to tipsters and reports already present on several Internet Web sites, Apple issued builds for both PowerPC (build 8I109) and Intel (build 8I1102) Macintosh systems.

While the Intel build places emphasis on the ongoing improvements to the company's Rosetta emulation environment for Mac OS X for Intel, the remainder of the enhancements are common amongst both builds.

Specifically, Mac OS X 10.4.6 is said to focus on Automator, Bluetooth, Cocoa, Carbon, Core Graphics, graphics drivers, hard and optical disc management, .Mac, Printing and Safari.

The builds, which weigh in at approximately 131MB and 166MB in Combo Updater form, already include over four dozen enhancements and bug fixes over Mac OS X 10.4.5, which Apple released just last week.

Certain milestones of Mac OS X 10.4.6 Update are believed by sources to provide software support for Apple's upcoming consumer Macintosh offerings such as the Intel iBook and Mac mini.
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If true, I guess this makes a stronger case that next week's new product announcement just might be the Mactel iBooks and Mini.
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Originally posted by kenstee
If true, I guess this makes a stronger case that next week's new product announcement just might be the Mactel iBooks and Mini.

I initially thought that too, but then, would Apple need just a week to test 10.4.6 on large-scale basis? Of course, it could be that us just getting word of this now means that it's been in development for quite some time.
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wow, can't wait for 10.4.12, "several new updates such as: THIS MOTHER WILL BE HACKER-PROOF!"
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Specifically, Mac OS X 10.4.6 is said to focus on Automator, Bluetooth, Cocoa, Carbon, Core Graphics, graphics drivers, hard and optical disc management, .Mac, Printing and Safari.

Apple should add Mail to that list
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Originally posted by smalM
Apple should add Mail to that list

Doesn't disabling remote images in Mail solve the problem?

Still, that's a nasty bug.
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10.4.5 came out in time for the MacBook Pros so 10.4.6 for some other new gear wouldn't surprise me at all. Think we'll get a new iTunes too?
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Originally posted by JavaCowboy
Doesn't disabling remote images in Mail solve the problem?

No
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Originally posted by smalM
No

Care to elaborate?
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Originally posted by JavaCowboy
Care to elaborate?

Because you can still click on the image and download it... and then all hell breaks loose.
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Originally posted by Gene Clean
Because you can still click on the image and download it... and then all hell breaks loose.

OK, assuming I'm not stupid or a technophobe, how does this hurt me? If I can't see the imagine, I'm sure as hell not going to click on the blocked image to downloaded it.

As long as the image doesn't auto-execute, I don't care.
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Originally posted by theapplegenius
wow, can't wait for 10.4.12, "several new updates such as: THIS MOTHER WILL BE HACKER-PROOF!"

Some suggested why 10.4.5 came out as soon as it did, was because of the hacks linked to from the OSx86 site. I'm not going to link to them here, because I don't want to get Appleinsider in trouble as well.

That's likely why it was so sparse, and why 10.4.6 is so advanced already. What we're seeing now in .6 was probably going to be (mostly, at least) released in 10.4.5 when it was ready.
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Originally posted by JavaCowboy
OK, assuming I'm not stupid or a technophobe, how does this hurt me? If I can't see the imagine, I'm sure as hell not going to click on the blocked image to downloaded it.

As long as the image doesn't auto-execute, I don't care.

One solution is to move Terminal out of Applications/Utilities until Apple comes out with a fix. This problem uses Terminal to do its nasty. When you move Terminal, it can't find it, and does nothing.
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Originally posted by JavaCowboy
OK, assuming I'm not stupid or a technophobe

Well it doesn't hurt *you* but it hurts others that just don't think before clicking on images.

Just continue using Thunderbird until there's a fix
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The build number of the PowerPC version is 8I109. 109! Apple has traditionally numbered the PowerPC releases sequentially. I can't remember one that hit over 100 except for maybe a beta of a new OS version (like Tiger). I think that alone signifies that this has been in the works for a long time. Someone else's post about 10.4.5 being rushed out to support/upgrade the new iMacs and MacBook Pros now makes sense. If 10.4.6 is released soon, my (and his) theory would be correct.

By the way, I've never been able to figure out the Intel-based OS numbering system.
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I'm not too worried about the build numbers. Not only has the Mac OS X release schedule been extended but I'm sure there were tons of extra builds relating to the x86 version.

But either way we'll know more next Tuesday. Interesting that the billionth song was sold tonight.
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Some suggested why 10.4.5 came out as soon as it did, was because of the hacks linked to from the OSx86 site. I'm not going to link to them here, because I don't want to get Appleinsider in trouble as well.

That's likely why it was so sparse, and why 10.4.6 is so advanced already. What we're seeing now in .6 was probably going to be (mostly, at least) released in 10.4.5 when it was ready.

That is incredibly unlikely given the amount of time it takes to properly do QA on a patch. Most likely 10.4.5 was just a small patch.
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I must say that it seems pretty crazy how Apple has been on top of these updates. Seems their release cycle is completely accelerated to a point I haven't seen before. Despite if their motives are to make Mac OS X hack proof (this is a good thing in my mind) or not isn't really that big of a deal. We get changelogs from developers so that we know what they did. The list of things they are updating is staggering when compared to new features when other companies release updates, and that can't be denied. After all its not like most other companies even give you new featuures in updates. Most make you pay for new stuff these days.
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Perhaps 10.4.6 will be put in to the Tiger boxes? This is a large release, and the last one was 10.4.3
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Originally posted by smalM
Apple should add Mail to that list

It's not a Safari or a Mail problem - the file could be on a CD and still do the same damage. It's a system flaw just as the previous (and almost identical) file identifier flaw.
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Originally posted by Xool
10.4.5 came out in time for the MacBook Pros so 10.4.6 for some other new gear wouldn't surprise me at all. Think we'll get a new iTunes too?

Yes. Since iTunes is updated every Tuesday, and this event is on Tuesday, I think we'll definetily (sp!?) see a new iTunes. Possibly iTunes 7, to go with the Home entertainment system that they will be releasing. (I hope)
And as long as they don't change the name of the iBook, I'm okay with whatever they do. Maybe they could bring back the lime green option. <smiles with glee>
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Originally posted by josa92
Yes. Since iTunes is updated every Tuesday, and this event is on Tuesday, I think we'll definetily (sp!?) see a new iTunes. Possibly iTunes 7, to go with the Home entertainment system that they will be releasing. (I hope)
And as long as they don't change the name of the iBook, I'm okay with whatever they do. Maybe they could bring back the lime green option. <smiles with glee>

That would be interesting if Apple released a new update of iTunes every Tuesday. They'd win some sort of efficiency award for that, for sure

(it's the store that's updated, not the program)
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Originally posted by melgross
One solution is to move Terminal out of Applications/Utilities until Apple comes out with a fix. This problem uses Terminal to do its nasty. When you move Terminal, it can't find it, and does nothing.

Since most people don't use Terminal can't you just change the permissions to no access? Granted if you repair permissions this will be changed back.
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Originally posted by crees!
Since most people don't use Terminal can't you just change the permissions to no access? Granted if you repair permissions this will be changed back.

I live in the terminal! But I'm also smart enough to uncheck my "Open Safe Files" and not open random attachments, etc.
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Why is Safari listed in every single maintenance update to Mac OS?

That, and the fact that I've dumped Safari in favor of Camino shouldn't be surprising. Safari + Java-heavy pages don't mix.
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Perhaps they'll integrate Spotlight to check the headers of the attached image files and see if they are indeed a jpg, gif, png, mng, tiff, etc. Then if it violates a set of conditions required for it to be pass they chmod the permissions to only be read by root. Better yet, if they send an alert to the user that this is a false image and give them the option to delete it but have a configurable option that allows one to save it to a temp directory where one can run vi/pico or their favorite text editor and view the guts of it.
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Perhaps they'll integrate Spotlight to check the headers of the attached image files and see if they are indeed a jpg, gif, png, mng, tiff, etc. Then if it violates a set of conditions required for it to be pass they chmod the permissions to only be read by root. Better yet, if they send an alert to the user that this is a false image and give them the option to delete it but have a configurable option that allows one to save it to a temp directory where one can run vi/pico or their favorite text editor and view the guts of it.

There is a very interesting, and informed discussion about this on macintouch.com. Hit the link and scroll sown to where it says "Notes and Tips".

http://www.macintouch.com/
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The only problem that I see with the current version is SPEED...but that isnt an OS issue, it is a mac mini issue.

I love OSX but Windows is SOOOOOO much faster...note to apple: the 4200RPM HDD in your "gateway drug" mac mini is REALLY annoying...
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Originally posted by JLL
It's not a Safari or a Mail problem - the file could be on a CD and still do the same damage. It's a system flaw just as the previous (and almost identical) file identifier flaw.

Mail in X.3.9 denied opening such a jpg attachment.
Apple fixed something that was not broken.
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Originally posted by smalM
Mail in X.3.9 denied opening such a jpg attachment.
Apple fixed something that was not broken.

The problem was there as well.It goes back a while, it was just now noticed, though. The problem isn't really with Safari, or Mail.
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The only problem that I see with the current version is SPEED...but that isnt an OS issue, it is a mac mini issue.

I love OSX but Windows is SOOOOOO much faster...note to apple: the 4200RPM HDD in your "gateway drug" mac mini is REALLY annoying...

If it's not an OS issue, then Windows isn't faster, which it isn't. I just switched from a 2Ghz laptop to a 12" PowerBook (PowerBook has faster memory but same speed HD) and have only noticed the same operations being performed faster in OS X, in spite of the hardware.
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Originally posted by jdbartlett
If it's not an OS issue, then Windows isn't faster, which it isn't. I just switched from a 2Ghz laptop to a 12" PowerBook (PowerBook has faster memory but same speed HD) and have only noticed the same operations being performed faster in OS X, in spite of the hardware.

Well, I upgraded my mini to tiger on day 0 and all subsequent updates and it was dog slow, as a last resort, I just booted to thr Tiger DVD and ran disk utility from that -- repaired volumes and permissions, and it is at least 3x faster...WOWZA

I retract my earlier comment.
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Originally posted by macinthe408
Why is Safari listed in every single maintenance update to Mac OS?

That, and the fact that I've dumped Safari in favor of Camino shouldn't be surprising. Safari + Java-heavy pages don't mix.

Perhaps WebKit is getting a lot of updates Which can be only a good thing really.
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Perhaps WebKit is getting a lot of updates Which can be only a good thing really.

I agree. Saying Safari gets updated is essentially the same and makes more sense for the average user.
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Originally posted by melgross
One solution is to move Terminal out of Applications/Utilities until Apple comes out with a fix. This problem uses Terminal to do its nasty. When you move Terminal, it can't find it, and does nothing.

The solution I'm using is to modify my user account to disable Terminal access and use a different account (w/fast user switching) exclusively for Terminal. Not pracical for all users, but suits me fine.

I didn't want to move/rename Terminal.app for fear I'd forget to move it back before running update!

Also, I'm running a race. It took Microsoft 8 days to fix a comparable flaw (WMF, anyone?)
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Originally posted by psychboy
That would be interesting if Apple released a new update of iTunes every Tuesday. They'd win some sort of efficiency award for that, for sure

(it's the store that's updated, not the program)

Really, it just feels like Apple updates iTunes every tuesday (what, there's another update coming? Gah!)

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I must say that it seems pretty crazy how Apple has been on top of these updates. Seems their release cycle is completely accelerated to a point I haven't seen before. Despite if their motives are to make Mac OS X hack proof (this is a good thing in my mind) or not isn't really that big of a deal.

Well, it is crazy. But they better make sure they don't get OS X into the same update cycle as iTunes or the old windows update schedule. Continuous updates are BAD. People will soon ignore them if they come fast and furious (again, just look at how many windows users aren't running the latest updates).

MS switched their update schedule finally (at the behest of IT people) to a more structured "once a month" type of approach that allowed people to stay on top of updates and be able to get their other work done.

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We get changelogs from developers so that we know what they did. The list of things they are updating is staggering when compared to new features when other companies release updates, and that can't be denied. After all its not like most other companies even give you new featuures in updates. Most make you pay for new stuff these days.

Exactly where do we get changelogs from Apple? I always see just "We've improved this, that, and the other thing. Trust us" and then have to guess at what's been fixed or whether its worthy of the update (why waste the time updating to 10.4.5 if it does nothing to fix any of your problems? Just to create new ones?).
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