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post #1 of 43
3/7/06 at 9:28am
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The event will be held on August 7-11 in San Francsico.
Here the link to the site! http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/index.html

I can't wait to find out about Leopard and all the new goodies Apple has for us. This will be a very good year
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post #2 of 43
3/7/06 at 9:42am
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post #3 of 43
3/7/06 at 10:14am
http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/

PowerMacs in Sept?
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post #4 of 43
3/7/06 at 10:24am
Absolutely.

WWDC is usually in June. A postponement to August is Apple's way of showing, very early, when the new Power Macs will be here.

No more excuses. If they didn't know already, developers now have six months notice of when Power Macs will ship.
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post #5 of 43
3/7/06 at 10:32am
I suspect the delay has more to do with Mac OS X Leopard than the new Mac Pro towers. This pushes the event closer to Vista's release date, giving MS less time to "start their photocopiers" and giving Apple a slight advantage.

The new towers however are tied to a number of things, primarily Intel's processors. If quad G5s trounce any MacIntel machine, why would you want the MacIntel over the quad? However, I'd think the new towers would feature more improvements than we're currently thinking, like updated graphics cards and displays that are HDMI capable and Blu-Ray burners for example. The new Pro machines have to make waves and wow everyone, Mac and PC users alike.
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post #6 of 43
3/7/06 at 10:53am
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post #7 of 43
3/7/06 at 10:57am
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Originally posted by Xool
I suspect the delay has more to do with Mac OS X Leopard than the new Mac Pro towers. This pushes the event closer to Vista's release date, giving MS less time to "start their photocopiers" and giving Apple a slight advantage.

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post #8 of 43
3/7/06 at 11:15am
I wonder why the date was pushed back from June when WWDC usually occurs.

Perhaps they had some cool new features in leopard they really wanted to show off that simply wouldn't be ready in time.
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post #9 of 43
3/7/06 at 11:16am
Apple today announced that its 2006 Worldwide Developer Conference (WWDC) will take place in August, about two months later than usual.

The developer gathering is slated for August 7 - 11 at an unspecified venue in San Francisco, Calif., believed to be the Moscone Center.

The annual conference, which usually takes place in June, will offers in-depth sessions, unique insight, and access to Apple engineers.

Traditionally, Apple has used the conference to highlight major advancements to its Macintosh operating system. However, last year, the company used the forum to unveil its plans to transition its Macintosh computer line to Intel processors.

Early registration for the show runs through June 23 and offers developers a $300 discount on all packages.

Apple is also offering two additional promotions: a WWDC 2006 E-ticket and ADC Select Membership for $2000 ($100 discount) and WWDC 2006 E-ticket 5-pack for $6,380 ("buy four, get a fifth free"). During early registration, these packages are discounted by $300 and $1,200, respectively.

"WWDC 2006 is a perfect opportunity to take your work to the next level," the company wrote on its developer Web site. "Discover tools and techniques for optimizing your code on Intel-based Macs, explore best practices for choosing and using the latest APIs, and learn how to make the most of the technologies and services built into MacÂ*OSÂ*X."
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post #10 of 43
3/7/06 at 11:28am
Well, I already posted this in MacCentral, but it's got the same point here as well:

"August?

I've just been thinking that this conference will highlight Leopard, as we would expect to, but an August date has me confused.

This a full two months later than usual.

The reasons I can think of are:

1. The OS is running late, and they won't have a developer beta until then.

2. They pushed it back because they want to announce the new Powermacs, and the chips have been pushed back, as you can read about today.

I very much hope it's the latter. Otherwise, the chance for a 2006 release for the OS seems to be fading. This gives the developers little time to revise their software."
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post #11 of 43
3/7/06 at 11:30am
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Oh now you're asking for it! <takes gloves off>


My first thoughts aswell too.





Vista is already copying OSX, judging by CES.

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post #12 of 43
3/7/06 at 11:47am
Entire line to Intel by August 7th.

xserves, powermacs ibooks promacs, probooks.

Leopard preview.

new things.

just in time for Sept and the holiday season.

WooT

I suspect that there will be some new and interesting things every other month till August.

April 1?

June1?- perhaps the opening of the Apple Flagship Store Manhattan with new releases (supplants MWNY)

August 7 WWDC

October - new ipod and commercial stuff for the holidays.

January MWSF- Leopard

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post #13 of 43
3/7/06 at 12:06pm
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Originally posted by TednDi
Entire line to Intel by August 7th.

xserves, powermacs ibooks promacs, probooks.

Leopard preview.

new things.

just in time for Sept and the holiday season.

WooT

I suspect that there will be some new and interesting things every other month till August.

April 1?

June1?- perhaps the opening of the Apple Flagship Store Manhattan with new releases (supplants MWNY)

August 7 WWDC

October - new ipod and commercial stuff for the holidays.

January MWSF- Leopard


This is pretty much what I was thinking too.

I still wonder, though, if it gives developers enough time for January. That's not much more than 4 months away. If there are any major new features that require developer support to function, it could be a problem, because major developers will still be working on Universal binaries. That could slow them up even further.
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post #14 of 43
3/7/06 at 12:11pm
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I very much hope it's the latter. Otherwise, the chance for a 2006 release for the OS seems to be fading. This gives the developers little time to revise their software.

It depends on how much changes underneath that developers need to revise software for. Apple said with 10.4 that they weren't going to break the API from now on. The kernel was sorted. They were fibbing slightly as there are APIs that aren't final still - Spotlight springs to mind.

If Apple isn't breaking things in 10.5 then there's no need for developers to update their code.

We can still speculate on what does get added to 10.5 though - like a device independent UI and a new Finder. I suspect that the delay is because of Intel's NGMA chips though. Or perhaps that's the date Adobe says it'll have CS3 ready too - ready for OSX 10.5 only.
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post #15 of 43
3/7/06 at 12:16pm
I figure that leopard will be released after mwsf in January. Probably shipping February or so.

It may even be pushed back slightly to take the thunder from Vista.

We can see now that MS wants to be right behind Apple not too far ahead. MS is totally afraid of a major release of (A tiger rip off) their new OS and Apple comes out of the box with a show stopper.

Look at what they didn't do with Origami after Apple announced the "Fun" event.
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post #16 of 43
3/7/06 at 12:20pm
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It depends on how much changes underneath that developers need to revise software for. Apple said with 10.4 that they weren't going to break the API from now on. The kernel was sorted. They were fibbing slightly as there are APIs that aren't final still - Spotlight springs to mind.

If Apple isn't breaking things in 10.5 then there's no need for developers to update their code.

We can still speculate on what does get added to 10.5 though - like a device independent UI and a new Finder. I suspect that the delay is because of Intel's NGMA chips though. Or perhaps that's the date Adobe says it'll have CS3 ready too - ready for OSX 10.5 only.

That's the point! It depends on what Apple does. It's not possible to "freeze" the API's. They can leave the vast majority alone, but the genetics of software evolution makes it impossible to simply add to the design without altering some other area. At some point, for the reason of keeping the OS from tangling itself up in complexity, Apple will have to alter or drop some of them.

Even additions can cause problems.

I'm not sure if CS3 could only support 10.5. That would be cutting it too close. Perhaps, 10.4.7, or some other update to 10.4. Some new features might only be supported by 10.5if Adobe has the time to incorporate them.
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post #17 of 43
3/7/06 at 12:25pm
Clearly they pushed it back because of the world cup.

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post #18 of 43
3/7/06 at 12:37pm
Glad I'm getting my Powermac off my hands next weekend.
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post #19 of 43
3/7/06 at 1:28pm
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Clearly they pushed it back because of the world cup.


I suppose that's a more valid reason than the World Series.
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post #20 of 43
3/7/06 at 1:40pm
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What is the chances of a Merom powerbook released at that event? THat could be the time to visit USA for me.
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post #21 of 43
3/7/06 at 1:44pm
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What is the chances of a Merom powerbook released at that event? THat could be the time to visit USA for me.

Well, both Conroe and Merom have been pushed back. Unless that changes again, it's hard to say. If the chip isn't there...

I haven't had time. Indeed, I'm leaving for the evening right after this post, but check out what's happening at Intel's conference today. We might learn about the timing.
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post #22 of 43
3/7/06 at 3:06pm
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Originally posted by Xool
I suspect the delay has more to do with Mac OS X Leopard than the new Mac Pro towers. This pushes the event closer to Vista's release date, giving MS less time to "start their photocopiers" and giving Apple a slight advantage.

Not just this - remember the OS X team have been busy moving over the entire OS to Intel. I expect the delay is because they need longer for Leopard - but it might be because of MS. Although MS have finished Vista's feature list already. If Vista and OS X Leopard go on sale at the same time - they can be compared properly and OS X will win - I'm sure!

I can't wait for August!
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post #23 of 43
3/7/06 at 5:45pm
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Originally posted by Xool
IThis pushes the event closer to Vista's release date, giving MS less time to "start their photocopiers" ...

Are you aware that the last preview edition of Vista was announced "feature compleate" and we chould see RC1 in a few weeks, and I would guess RC 2 and maybe 3 in the summer with the last RC being Very close to the Gold Master (the image that is sent to OEMs and CD/DVD manufacture).

Too late for the copiers now
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post #24 of 43
3/7/06 at 5:49pm
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Not just this - remember the OS X team have been busy moving over the entire OS to Intel. I expect the delay is because they need longer for Leopard - but it might be because of MS. Although MS have finished Vista's feature list already. If Vista and OS X Leopard go on sale at the same time - they can be compared properly and OS X will win - I'm sure!

Is the time between WWDC keynote+7days(allowing time for dev media to ship and be setup) and Vistas launch date, which as of now is "fall" (I would assume mid september so they could have vista in the box stores for the holidays) enough time for devs to become compatible and do the needed testing?
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post #25 of 43
3/7/06 at 6:48pm
Well, Apple certainly likes to catch people off guard, so however unlikely this may be, I thought I might just suggest it:

WWDC - Apple says, "BAM", we will ship OS X Leopard on this date (around the time of vista) and here are the features: x, y, & z.

This gives them the Holiday Shopping Season, no time for Windows to copy, stealing Vista's thunder, element of suprise and thus free advirtising. Also, since new Macs come out around the time of OS X releases, it would be the perfect time for a PowerMac. PowerMac and iMac in sept/oct, iBook/Mac Mini in January.
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post #26 of 43
3/7/06 at 9:44pm
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Is the time between WWDC keynote+7days(allowing time for dev media to ship and be setup) and Vistas launch date, which as of now is "fall" (I would assume mid september so they could have vista in the box stores for the holidays) enough time for devs to become compatible and do the needed testing?

Vista is scheduled for the holiday season. It's been assumed that that means November something, 'till December 31st.

As Gates, and a couple of others from MS have also said; unless it's delayed for *quality reasons*.

But that would never happen, right?
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post #27 of 43
3/8/06 at 3:35am
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But that would never happen, right?

IIRC, Vista was to be Windows 2004...the delay happend long ago
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post #28 of 43
3/8/06 at 5:29am
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Apple says, "BAM", we will ship OS X Leopard on this date (around the time of vista) and here are the features: x, y, & z.

Haha! Bam? Who is this? Emeril Lagase? I totally agree that this is what Apple has in mind! Apple is known to announce the features of their upcoming operating systems at WWDC, and I really hope they'll have some amazing features! Perhaps a new killer feature in OS X is exactly the kind of quality issues Billy G is talking about
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post #29 of 43
3/8/06 at 5:33am
MIDDLE OF AUGUST!?!?!?

Are they nuts??? Who the hell is NOT going to be on holidays??

Well, at least 3/4 of Europe ain't workin' that point.

I'm VERY GLAD that MacOS X is slowing down.. I know too many people who are pissed off that they "just bought" a computer last year and want to use apps that are 10.4 only... OSX should really slow down to 2 to 3 years, also so that Apple doesnt start delivering crap since there is so much pressure to deliver more innovation.

10.4 has SO much that normal users are starting to get a bit overwhelmed.
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post #30 of 43
3/8/06 at 6:11am
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MIDDLE OF AUGUST!?!?!?

Are they nuts??? Who the hell is NOT going to be on holidays??

Well, at least 3/4 of Europe ain't workin' that point.

I'm VERY GLAD that MacOS X is slowing down.. I know too many people who are pissed off that they "just bought" a computer last year and want to use apps that are 10.4 only... OSX should really slow down to 2 to 3 years, also so that Apple doesnt start delivering crap since there is so much pressure to deliver more innovation.

10.4 has SO much that normal users are starting to get a bit overwhelmed.

No.


Bring on the updates! Bring on the new features!

Bring on the Finder Fix!!
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post #31 of 43
3/8/06 at 7:32am
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Well, at least 3/4 of Europe ain't workin' that point

What???

WTF am I doing in the US? I want most of my August off
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post #32 of 43
3/8/06 at 8:22am
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What???

WTF am I doing in the US? I want most of my August off

It's one of the most frustrating things you have to deal with when working in the UK with French colleagues. Most of France and a fair chunk of Mediterranean Europe take the whole of August off. You just can't get anything done with the rest of Europe in August.
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post #33 of 43
3/8/06 at 8:44am
Hmm. I think that with a couple buddies we can invade Europe in August and no one would be the wiser. I always wanted to be an old-timey feudal king.
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post #34 of 43
3/8/06 at 11:05am
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Originally posted by ZO
MIDDLE OF AUGUST!?!?!?

Are they nuts??? Who the hell is NOT going to be on holidays??

Well, at least 3/4 of Europe ain't workin' that point.

I'm VERY GLAD that MacOS X is slowing down.. I know too many people who are pissed off that they "just bought" a computer last year and want to use apps that are 10.4 only... OSX should really slow down to 2 to 3 years, also so that Apple doesnt start delivering crap since there is so much pressure to deliver more innovation.

10.4 has SO much that normal users are starting to get a bit overwhelmed.

Who cares?

This is a developers conference. It's not something to bring the kids to.

If European developers need to go, they will.
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post #35 of 43
3/8/06 at 1:57pm
If they have the free all-you-can-eat Krispy Kreme donuts again this year, I'm there.

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post #36 of 43
3/8/06 at 3:29pm
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Haha! Bam? Who is this? Emeril Lagase?

Steve Jobs says BAM a lot in his Keynotes.
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post #37 of 43
3/8/06 at 5:09pm
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Steve Jobs says BAM a lot in his Keynotes.

IIRC it's boom - not that I'm trying to be pedantic! Anyway - I'm more interested in Leopard than Vista - I'll be quite shocked though if they release it soon after WWDC. Last time it was 10 months from WWDC to Tiger introduction and this time allowed developers to comment on the unsightly Apple menu and dashboard organisation. I feel that a lack of developer contribution may make this new release weaker.
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post #38 of 43
3/12/06 at 8:42am
I think the "delay" is smart, and I was expecting this because:

1. It really doesn't give Microsoft any time to steal Leopard features. By August, features must be frozen.

2. It gives Apple more time to develop the beta of Leopard. Given the fact that Vista is a knock off of OS X--with many things that are better--Apple needs to ensure 10.5 is an epic leap of an upgrade to make Vista look like an out-of-date copy of a five year old OS.

I really hope Jobs understands what is at stake here. Leopard must be the leap that OS X was over OS9.
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post #39 of 43
3/12/06 at 9:06am
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1. It really doesn't give Microsoft any time to steal Leopard features. By August, features must be frozen.

I think you're over-estimating how many shits Microsoft gives about Apple. Here's a clue - it's not more than two.

Apart from that, even if Apple released Leopard today, MS wouldn't be able to copy it by the Vista ship date anyway. They just don't work that quickly.
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post #40 of 43
3/12/06 at 9:37am
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Apart from that, even if Apple released Leopard today, MS wouldn't be able to copy it by the Vista ship date anyway. They just don't work that quickly.

And the fact the the feature list has been finalised! Although Apple will be able to steal ideas from Windows - making Leopard even greater.
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