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Intel challenges Apple on remote design

Intel has issued a friendly challenge to Apple to come up with a remote with fewer buttons, according to Macworld UK. The challenge reportedly came in the form of a remark made by Intel VP Don MacDonald during his keynote on the digital home at the Intel Developer Conference on Tuesday. "We set the bar with no controls on a remote, we'd like to see someone else beat that," MacDonald joked. The Intel remote control will be voice activated, all the customer need do is speak into the voice receiver. However, when demoed on stage the device initially failed to work, no doubt due to the acoustics of the auditorium, as MacDonald suggested.

Microsoft unwraps "Origami" tablet PC

Microsoft on Wednesday unveiled its compact "Origami" computer, which the software giant was originally scheduled to show at the CeBIT technology trade show today. A Microsoft spokesperson told the Associated Press that the device would officially be called the "Ultramobile PC." Two variants of the device are expected to arrive ins stores by early April, priced between $600 and $1,000. One analyst said most power users will be disappointed. "They're going after the consumer crowd," he said. "There's no way you can cram enough hardware into a $500 price point and make it run well for Windows XP, let alone Vista."

Paid podcasts?

Talk show radio host Rush Limbaugh yesterday said that his company and Apple have developed a method to restrict access to podcasts to paid members. Previously, the only way for "Rush 24/7" subscribers to get Limbaugh's commercial-free podcasts was to download them individually through the Rush 24/7 member site. However, the podcats can now be delivered automatically via iTunes to paid members each Monday, simply by setting a preference on the Rush 24/7 website.

Apple sets up tech support center in India

Apple has decided to set up a massive technical support centre in India, reports India Times. Apple will hire 1,500 people by the end of this year, and 3,000 by the end of next.

Apple struggles to boost iPod market share abroad

Apple commanded a 73 percent share of the digital music player market in the United States in 2005, according to research firm NPD. This compares to a 56 percent share in 2004. Its worldwide share, on the other hand, was just under 25 percent in 2005, according to data from iSuppli. The Street estimates that Apple had a 22.5 percent worldwide share in 2004. However, MP3 player sales grew 270 percent from 2004 to 2005 worldwide, while they grew just 170 percent in the U.S.
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India? I hope I don't get them on the line if I have to call about something. When I had my HP computer serviced, the Indian customer service had my profile all wrong and it took domestic (USA) service to get it fixed up. Not saying it's incompetent, but my experiences aren't that great \
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"The facility will be Apple's first support center outside of its Cupertino, California headquarters."

Are you sure? Whenever I call Apple, I get connected to somebody in Apple's Cork, Ireland support centre. Except last time, they connected me to somebody in India, after I initially spoke to somebody in Ireland. My issue was resolved successfully though.
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hmm theres a lot of reasons a voice activated only remote is a silly idea, one due to the recognition by the remote tho presumably there will be some kind of training for different accents, but also if you are trying to use it in a noisy environment such as a party of playing your music or film loud then it will probably not understand correctly. But it might all be ok...

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If Apple has less that 1/4 of the digital music player market by dollars (is that what they mean?), and most of the non-Apple players that sell are flash players (which I think is the case), then by UNITS Apple has far LESS than 1/4 of the market.

That's a LOT of non-iPods being sold.
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India is definitely not Apple's first support center outside of Cupertino. Most often for enterprise support you are delivered to Austin,TX. Many times however... I was transfered to Ireland.
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Originally posted by stustanley
hmm theres a lot of reasons a voice activated only remote is a silly idea, one due to the recognition by the remote tho presumably there will be some kind of training for different accents, but also if you are trying to use it in a noisy environment such as a party of playing your music or film loud then it will probably not understand correctly. But it might all be ok...

I think it would be cool, one can walk by a hapless coworker's computer and yell "ERASE ALL FILES!".
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Originally posted by stustanley
hmm theres a lot of reasons a voice activated only remote is a silly idea, one due to the recognition by the remote tho presumably there will be some kind of training for different accents, but also if you are trying to use it in a noisy environment such as a party of playing your music or film loud then it will probably not understand correctly. But it might all be ok...

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I would think the same as I had to do this with a previous cell phone (train the phone for each number). I just got a Moto RAZR and I couldn't believe it when I just had to press a button and say "Call NAME Mobile" or "Call NAME Home" and it would freaking say it back and then call. If it's unsure it says "Did you say Call NAME Mobile"? It's incredible I must say. No programming needed!
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Voice activated? From whose ass did that idea get pulled? Say, 'good bye' to channel surfing by one person and say 'hello' to channel surfing/fighting by many people. If a show is on channel 9 and in that show someone says "Turn the TV to channel 7" will the TV turn to channel '7'?
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Intel challenges Apple on remote design

That Macworld article really could have been written better. I think as it stands, it's really only funny to those people that know that MS sells a media remote with 40+ buttons, while Apple sells one with 6, and that this has been a point of contention around the MS campus. Sure, we all know that, but I would expect there are a lot who don't.

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Apple sets up tech support center in India

Sigh. The price of increased market share, I suppose. Let us just pray that Apple uses a better screening process than Dell and others. I have no doubt that it is possible to use this money-saving technique while still providing good service and keeping customers happy. So many companies have failed at this, though.
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Rush... yech. Anyway Air America Radio beat him to to it.

If you signup for "Premium" service, you can then subscribe to password protected podcasts (iTunes prompts you to log before it downloads new episodes). I've been doing this since the 1st of February.
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Yeah, that's all we need, if you want to flip through channels to see what's on you have to say 'up' 'up' 'up' 'up' and that is in a best case scenario, I would hope that you wouldn't have to say 'channel up'. I don't think this will go over so well with consumers, the use of a remotes is almost a visceral reaction.

Regarding outsourcing to India, that is just a bad idea, The service that comes out of there is horribly sub-par. I've had people at Indian call centers tell me that 'they don't have a supervisor' or 'boss' or 'level 2 tech' when I wanted to escalate cases. I hope Apple doesn't get like Dell where they want you to 'see if it works with a different' every single part in the damn computer from hard drive, to ram, to processor. With Dell you pay for onsite service, yet the consumer has to do all the troubleshooting.
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Originally posted by nagromme
If Apple has less that 1/4 of the digital music player market by dollars (is that what they mean?), and most of the non-Apple players that sell are flash players (which I think is the case), then by UNITS Apple has far LESS than 1/4 of the market.

That's a LOT of non-iPods being sold.

Nope. The low worldwide share figure is by UNITS. In the USA and Europe consumers are buying expensive iPods. In Asia they're buying cheap flash players - lots of them.
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Whenever I call Apple, I get connected to somebody in Apple's Cork, Ireland support centre.

If only I'd get Cork whenever I call Apple. They've been consistently competent, with a good sense of humor.
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Why can't Rush get with it and offer his podcast free like everybody else? Put some ads in there if you want some money, gosh.
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I just got a Moto RAZR and I couldn't believe it when I just had to press a button and say "Call NAME Mobile" or "Call NAME Home" and it would freaking say it back and then call. If it's unsure it says "Did you say Call NAME Mobile"? It's incredible I must say. No programming needed!

WHAT?! Mine doesn't do that. Whenever I hit the button it says "No voice names are stored in phonebook." WTF?

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Wow I bet apple is very scared,,,,,,,,,,not!
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Why can't Rush get with it and offer his podcast free like everybody else? Put some ads in there if you want some money, gosh.

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Rush was "podcasting" before podcasting was podcasting. I don't see why he has to get with any other program.
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Why can't Rush get with it and offer his podcast free like everybody else? Put some ads in there if you want some money, gosh.

Without knowing any actual details, or having bothered to keep up with it, his, and many other programs may be stuck in "old radio" contracts for the time being. Inside Mac Radio apparently has a lot more flexibility, but supposedly it can't go to the feed until after it is broadcast by all of the affilates. NPR and CBC apparently has a lot more flexibility.
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Suck.. Suck... Suck

All call centers suck... especially ones in India.

Microsoft's tablet will undoubtedly suck, but they will sell them by the boatload to their many flocks of sheep. (I'm dreaming of a powerful and beautiful tablet mac one day).

All voice activated devices suck. 75% is the highest percentage one has ever worked and even then, one who knows how to use button controls, etc., can usually get things done much more efficiently.
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If only I'd get Cork whenever I call Apple. They've been consistently competent, with a good sense of humor.

Indeed. The few times I've actually had to call support (Cork) my queries were dealt with efficiently. Other support numbers I've used (based in India) for banking and such have been nothing but bother. If the accent/language barrier doesn't make things difficult then the incompetence of some of the people on the other end of the phone will certainly get you wound up. Maybe not such a good idea Apple \
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Suck.. Suck... Suck


But, can you say that into your voice-activated remote?

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I just want my iMac Core Duo remote to turn up iTunes in Front Row, not the local computer volume. Sucks to not be able to control the volume remotely when using Air Tunes.
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post #27 of 49
Actually it'd be very nice to have the current remote but also have the voice recognition feature with it.

That way you have both. I do think voice recognition is the future...but some things are just more simple with buttons...like fast-forward and rewind.

But it would be neat to find songs just by naming them...or voicing a keyword to filter to a few songs and then choosing the one you want with the buttons.

Combining voice input and button inputs can be pretty powerful combo.
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Nope. The low worldwide share figure is by UNITS. In the USA and Europe consumers are buying expensive iPods. In Asia they're buying cheap flash players - lots of them.

Comprendo. Thanks for clearing that up. Referring to market share by units seems odd, but that does make the numbers sound more reasonable!
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I just want my iMac Core Duo remote to turn up iTunes in Front Row, not the local computer volume. Sucks to not be able to control the volume remotely when using Air Tunes.

Salling clicker does what you want, I just tried it. It requires a compatible Bluetooth phone or PDA and a Bluetooth unit in the computer. It's very flexible. There are people working on Front Row scripts for Salling too, I can't test it though.
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Origami looks hot and gimmicky. I might get one.
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A Microsoft spokesperson told the Associated Press that the device would officially be called the "Ultramobile PC."

Then why did Microsoft go to the trouble of designing a logo especially for the Origami website? Also, check out some of the "program launcher" backgrounds; do the less ugly ones remind you of anything?
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Intel challenges Apple on remote design

Apple struggles to boost iPod market share abroad

Apple commanded a 73 percent share of the digital music player market in the United States in 2005, according to research firm NPD. This compares to a 56 percent share in 2004. Its worldwide share, on the other hand, was just under 25 percent in 2005, according to data from iSuppli. The Street estimates that Apple had a 16.5 percent worldwide share in 2004. However, MP3 player sales grew 270 percent from 2004 to 2005 worldwide, while they grew just 170 percent in the U.S.

Not surprising, the main advantage of the iPod is iTMS & outside of the US it's not that great (no TV shows, different music library, poor video collection etc.) To get more global market share Apple needs to get more global

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"The facility will be Apple's first support center outside of its Cupertino, California headquarters."

Are you sure? Whenever I call Apple, I get connected to somebody in Apple's Cork, Ireland support centre. Except last time, they connected me to somebody in India, after I initially spoke to somebody in Ireland. My issue was resolved successfully though.

They also have professional services tech support in Austin.

The article needs better research.
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Not surprising, the main advantage of the iPod is iTMS & outside of the US it's not that great (no TV shows, different music library, poor video collection etc.) To get more global market share Apple needs to get more global

McD

Then tell that to the portfolio owners who set the boundaries.
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Rush... yech. Anyway Air America Radio beat him to to it.

If you signup for "Premium" service, you can then subscribe to password protected podcasts (iTunes prompts you to log before it downloads new episodes). I've been doing this since the 1st of February.

Differance, AA (hah, funny coincidence in names I guess...) gives it away for free, and doesnt have any other value added. For Limbaugh, this is just part of the whole subscribtion, including the show, archives, paroties, and links to every story he mentions on his show...

Like rush or not, it is more than just a paid podcast, think of it like an online version of his magazine thing.

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Is this availible for the other Premere radio podcasts? I do subscribe to Bob and Tom and would like this...
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Microsoft on Wednesday unveiled its compact "Origami" computer, which the software giant was originally scheduled to show at the CeBIT technology trade show today. A Microsoft spokesperson told the Associated Press that the device would officially be called the "Ultramobile PC."

Just when you think MS has come up with a semi-cool name like Origami, they show their true lame corporate stuffiness and use "Ultramobile PC"
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Paid podcasts?

Talk show radio host Rush Limbaugh yesterday said that his company and Apple have developed a method to restrict access to podcasts to paid members. Previously, the only way for "Rush 24/7" subscribers to get Limbaugh's commercial-free podcasts was to download them individually through the Rush 24/7 member site. However, the podcats can now be delivered automatically via iTunes to paid members each Monday, simply by setting a preference on the Rush 24/7 website.
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Please read the artical/listen to the audio before writing this Kasper:

1: It STARTS monday, it will update every day
"on Monday if you are a subscriber at Rush 24/7 you will go to the new page that we will set up, and there's a link there, and when you click on that link, automatically your iTunes will open, be it Mac or Windows: iTunes will ask you for your user name and your password (for rush 24/7). You enter that, you click the box that says "remember my password," and you never have to do another thing again. The following day, or that day, later that day, the next day, every podcast will automatically download to your iTunes as long as your iTunes is open and running."

2:"the only way for "Rush 24/7" subscribers to get Limbaugh's commercial-free podcasts was to download them individually through the Rush 24/7 member site." really?

FYI: Rush, and all other Premere podcasts have a client app that will auto DL the show, this just takes that step out of it.


Footnote: not a rush 24/7 preferance, a referance link to a phobos.apple.com site that opens itunes, that is where the prefs for podcasts are handled, and where you enter your Rush password and name for access to that RSS feed, and thus the files...


Link to Rushes explanation (free transcript and audio of the announcement)
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post #38 of 49
dumb.

Apple should add more buttons if they change it at all. Perhaps an "options" buttons or something for changing video resolutions, star ratings, stuff like that.
post #39 of 49
The iPod has five buttons and a wheel. The Apple remote should have five buttons and a wheel. It should basically be an iPod clickwheel on a 2" by 2" square.

Voice automation is ridiculous, as can be witnessed by the fact that the Intel remote didn't work in the auditorium. Do you really think your voice-activated AV remote is going to work when you're watching Jurassic Park at cinema volume on your home theater system. "Pause!" "Pause!!" "PAUSE!!!! GOD DAMMIT I SAID PAUSE!!!"
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Rush... yech. Anyway Air America Radio beat him to to it.

hehe too bad they are bleeding so much money. How long can they make it losing so much money?
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