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post #1 of 21
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Just a thought...

At WWDC, Jobs said Apple was putting all of it's energy into OSX, and had stopped working to support OS9.

Also, it looks as though QT6 won't be available for download either, as it is being integrated into OS 10.2

Maybe this is all common knowledge, I just realized it the other day.
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post #2 of 21
When Jobs brought the coffin out on OS 9 that was the first thing that came to mind. I haven't heard otherwise...we'll see. I still use OS 9 because I'm dead broke for buying or upgrading my apps to OS X.... <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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post #3 of 21
no

1.) Qt has a small enough marketshare. The last thing Apple needs is to kill support for 75% of it's installed base.

2.) there is no technical reason Qt6 can not be OS 9 and OS X compatible.

3.) whether apple likes it or not, many pros are gonna stick with OS 9 for a while more because it works, gets the job done, is familiar and is compatible with everything they own. Not supporting those users with a crucial update like QT6 would be pretty low
post #4 of 21
[quote]Not supporting those users with a crucial update like QT6 would be pretty low<hr></blockquote>

...and an extremely effective means of bruteforcing people to migrate from their dead OS to something better, nice or not. Besides, the sooner OS 9 is gone, the sooner Apple will be responsible for making sure OS X is a fully-functional industry OS and not some new toy.

[quote]there is no technical reason Qt6 can not be OS 9 and OS X compatible.<hr></blockquote>

hmm... not entirely sure on this one. Seems like a lot of work to make it backward compatible for an already-declared dead OS (for development anyhow). Can't imagine how well OS 9 would handle QT6 features anyhow... maybe I'm just Xspoiled and can't remember using 9.

Does anyone else writhe in pain when they have to boot into OS 9?

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post #5 of 21
WTF are you thinking???? of course QT6 will support os9. Think about it QT6 has windows support so if Apple's support is dead for OS9, it is even deader for Windows.

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post #6 of 21
QT 6 is for sure also coming to 9.x and Windows.

It's pretty obvious... not doing so wouldn't just be low, but rather dumb and Microsofty.

It is a cross-platform technology that needs to reach as many users as possible. Regardless of OS. Key content creating features (Pro) will and should be MacOS X only, but regular playback and such should be available in several flavors, from X to 9 to XP to Win98, etc...
post #7 of 21
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Okey doke.

We'll just have to see what happens this summer.

Jobs DID say that Apple had dropped OS9 completely. Remember? He said that 100% of Apple's resources were dedicated to OSX.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Apple drop it from OS9.
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post #8 of 21
[quote]"Mac OS 9 isn't dead for our customers yet, but it's dead for [developers]," Jobs said. "Today we say farewell to OS 9 for all future development, and we focus our energies on developing for Mac OS X."<hr></blockquote>
To me, this says that Apple understands full well that Mac OS 9 still has to be supported for its customers' sake.

He's asking developers to concentrate on Mac OS X development only, not stating that Apple is immediately ditching OS 9.

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post #9 of 21
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Thanks for that quote!
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post #10 of 21
I think we'll see a increase in the dropping of OS 9 support, but it would certainly be bold for Apple to drop *all* OS 9 application development, just like that.

The consumer and pro apps will go all-X first, but QuickTime and AppleWorks will be updated for 9 for a little to come, I think...
post #11 of 21
Apple has dropped all development for OS 9, Steve said that at MW. But keep in mind that it was a few months ago now at QuickTime Live that Phil held up a disc clearly labeled QuickTime 6 and said "Its ready to go, we just need to work out some licensing issues".

I think that QT6 will be on OS 9 because it is already done. As to further version, who knows?

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post #12 of 21
QT6 will be released for Mac OS 9.
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post #13 of 21
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Thanks for the clarification JLL.
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post #14 of 21
Jobs also declared the CRT dead for Apple. Then along comes the eMac. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't offer QT6 Pro for OS9 though, just to push people towards X.

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post #15 of 21
[quote]Originally posted by ziploc:
<strong>I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't offer QT6 Pro for OS9 though, just to push people towards X.</strong><hr></blockquote>

As JLL said, QuickTime 6 will be released for Mac OS 9, Mac OS X, and Windows.
post #16 of 21
Is QT 6 a crucial update? I mean, if developers are still using Mac OS 9, they're running old software as it is already, so does it really matter to them if they're using QT5 or QT 6?

I don't care if they don't do an OS 9 version. I personally can't stand booting into OS 9 anymore and it will be good once everyone is focused on OS X.

However I do think they probably will release an OS 9 version... or the player anyway, just to get people using it.
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post #17 of 21
[quote]Originally posted by rogue27:
<strong>Is QT 6 a crucial update? I mean, if developers are still using Mac OS 9, they're running old software as it is already, so does it really matter to them if they're using QT5 or QT 6?

I don't care if they don't do an OS 9 version. I personally can't stand booting into OS 9 anymore and it will be good once everyone is focused on OS X.

However I do think they probably will release an OS 9 version... or the player anyway, just to get people using it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

old software? you do know that it is impossible to do audio work on OS X right now and that video work is nearly as bad.
post #18 of 21
[quote] Is QT 6 a crucial update? I mean, if developers are still using Mac OS 9, they're running old software as it is already, so does it really matter to them if they're using QT5 or QT 6? <hr></blockquote>
WTF? Think about all the people who use OS 9 who aren't developers. Schools, companies, etc. Now, suppose you want to deliver MPEG4 content because of the higher quality/less bandwidth. None of them can see it if there isn't QT6 for OS 9. I'd be so pissed if that were true, because it would effectively rule out MPEG4/Quicktime for any use.
post #19 of 21
Well, I was referring to the pro version in reference to someone else's post that I didn't bother to quote, but since applenut is having too much fun contradicting every single thing I say, I'll just rephrase my last post and say, "duh, I'm a retard and can't figure out simple things" because that's what you all want to believe.

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post #20 of 21
[quote]Originally posted by rogue27:
<strong>Well, I was referring to the pro version in reference to someone else's post that I didn't bother to quote, but since applenut is having too much fun contradicting every single thing I say, I'll just rephrase my last post and say, "duh, I'm a retard and can't figure out simple things" because that's what you all want to believe.

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stop posting dumb things and they'll be little to contradict.

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post #21 of 21
The sad thing is that applenut is absolutely right about one thing. MacOS X still sucks when it comes to professional video and audio support. Not just because the OS lacks support, but because many third party applications and drivers lack OS X support. Many software makers in this field are small and not that tecnicaly skilld as say adobe or macromedia.

I know a bunch of professional sound designers that lost there patience with the Mac and moved their soundcards (that in most cases cost twise as much as the mac itself.) to relatively low cost, high performance PCs. It´s sad to watch!
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