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post #1 of 29
3/27/06 at 7:52pm
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Right before someone mentions Appleworks 6, I mean a drawing app with similar features but a bit better! Now that Apple works is gone!

I know Appleworks had other stuff too! But now all that, and more is covered in iWork '06.

I wonder will they make a simple drawing app. that we could use if we wanted to draw, one that shipped for free with new Macs!

Not a big expensive app. Just a clean straight forward drawing and painting app. "iDraw".

Imagine if I felt like drawing in the 80's on my Amiga 500 I could! (DeLux Paint)
But now I can't!

Just a thought!

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post #2 of 29
3/27/06 at 10:19pm
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Originally posted by Ireland
Right before someone mentions Appleworks 6, I mean a drawing app with similar features but a bit better! Now that Apple works is gone!

I know Appleworks had other stuff too! But now all that, and more is covered in iWork '06.

I wonder will they make a simple drawing app. that we could use if we wanted to draw, one that shipped for free with new Macs!

Not a big expensive app. Just a clean straight forward drawing and painting app. "iDraw".

Imagine if I felt like drawing in the 80's on my Amiga 500 I could! (DeLux Paint)
But now I can't!

Just a thought!

Apple has been there, done that, if I am not mistaken it has the T-shirt. With the very first Mac, Apple bundled MacPaint and MacWrite. These two apps started it all. MacDraw was introduced later to take full advantage of vector graphics APIs in QuickDraw. Currently, Apple bundles GraphicConverter, a fantastic third-party shareware title, with some of its systems. There really is no need for Apple to do another paint app. As for drawing apps, Adobe Illustrator is available. I have been a Canvas user since 1989. There are also various shareware titles available. Sad to say, however, I currently see very little demand for traditional drawing programs. The apps developed by Apple for MacOS X tend to innovate the genre in some fashion and to meet an unserved market. Do you see anything missing from the gamut of paint and drawing apps available on the platform?
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post #3 of 29
3/27/06 at 10:33pm
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post #4 of 29
3/27/06 at 10:47pm
But GraphicConverter isn't really an illustration app. Its primary purpose is to convert graphics into various formats.

There is definitely room for a consumer app in the Illustration space.

Canvas and Illustrator both have pro-level price tags, neither of which helps Apple to retain the next-generation of graphic artists on the Mac. A consumer illustration app would be directed squarely at kids both in the Home and Edu markets.

The only app presently in this space is EazyDraw, which has not made a big impression in the market, and is not bundled with the OS.
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post #5 of 29
3/28/06 at 5:54am
This is just what I've been thinking for quite a while now. I have no experience of iWork as such so I can't make any direct comparisons or criticisms of the app... but what I can gather from the few posts about iWork that I've read is that it is still a 'work in progress' and hasn't got a lot of the features still available in Appleworks.

Personally I love Appleworks and would love to see a new version of it for Mactel, though this is surely not gonna happen.
An integrated Apple consumer drawing/painting app, bundled with all new Macs would be really nice Bring me back to the old glory days of MacPaint and MacWrite! Those apps are the reason I fell in love with the Mac in the first place! Ahhh... those were the days...
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post #6 of 29
3/28/06 at 6:05am
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Yea Mr. me I do see sometihng missing!

The fact of the matter is the apple computers are the best in the world!
Yet if I want to draw a picture I have to pay more money to adobe or some other software company.

Ther reason I say this is because I have alot of nieces and nephews, and sometimes there here with me and they ask me if they can draw. Of course I say "I am sorry you can't because I've the new intel apple computer, and they no longer have any drawing software in their computers". I even feel strange saying it!

I'll say this again: "In the 80's if I wanted to draw on my crappy Amiga 500 I could, buy I no longer can". I have to pay more money to do a simple drawing. We've come along way!

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post #7 of 29
3/28/06 at 6:36am
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Originally posted by Ireland
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The fact of the matter is the apple computers are the best in the world!
Yet if I want to draw a picture I have to pay more money to adobe or some other software company.

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You want Apple to do all that work and you don't want to pay?
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post #8 of 29
3/28/06 at 7:45am
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Originally posted by Mr. Me
You want Apple to do all that work and you don't want to pay?

All that work! What the blazes are talking about! I would prefer Appleworks to nothing!
Hell I would even take that crappy paint program that came with my Amiga 500.
I'm talking about something really straight forward here.
A small painting app. Not a graphics design app!

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post #9 of 29
3/28/06 at 8:53am
If you're looking for a good drawing app, I would also recommend Intaglio. It's about the same price as Eazydraw, and has some good features. It's not made by Apple, but it still works.



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post #10 of 29
3/28/06 at 9:12am
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Originally posted by Mr Beardsley
If you're looking for a good drawing app, I would also recommend Intaglio. It's about the same price as Eazydraw, and has some good features. It's not made by Apple, but it still works.



Intaglio

Not bad at all!
Now Apple, buy this company! Make it easier to use and more OS X like!
Problem solved. That gap is filled. One step at a time. Perfection is not far away!

Oh I really meant a painting app!

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post #11 of 29
3/31/06 at 7:45am
Look for a program called "ArtRage" its amazing, free, and it should do the job great. I use it on design jobs occasionally due to the quality I get out of it.
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post #12 of 29
3/31/06 at 9:54am
Apple used to bundle OmniGraffle with new Macs. If you're looking for a consumer-level Illustrator substitute with ease of use that makes Apple proud, look no further. It's an awesome app, and makes very pretty pictures very easily. There's no reason for Apple to step on its toes.

Edit: So there's three well-polished, easy-to-use, consumer drawing apps for the Mac now? Cool. Developers, developers, developers...
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post #13 of 29
3/31/06 at 10:50am
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Originally posted by mox358
Look for a program called "ArtRage" its amazing, free, and it should do the job great. I use it on design jobs occasionally due to the quality I get out of it.

Not bad but it's a bit sluggish under rosetta.

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post #14 of 29
4/1/06 at 7:12am
this one is shareware. It is pretty nice.
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post #15 of 29
4/1/06 at 7:21am
I still wish we had something like an MS Paint bundled. I shouldn't have to run around looking for software when i want to convert images to other formats.
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post #16 of 29
4/1/06 at 7:43am
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Originally posted by theapplegenius
I still wish we had something like an MS Paint bundled. I shouldn't have to run around looking for software when i want to convert images to other formats.

I agree to the running around thing!

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post #17 of 29
4/1/06 at 10:13am
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I still wish we had something like an MS Paint bundled. I shouldn't have to run around looking for software when i want to convert images to other formats.

so what's wrong with preview.app ? it exports to other formats just fine.
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post #18 of 29
4/1/06 at 11:55am
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Originally posted by theapplegenius
I still wish we had something like an MS Paint bundled. I shouldn't have to run around looking for software when i want to convert images to other formats.

Apple bundles GraphicConverter with its professional computers. MS Paint is not even in the same league. GraphicConverter does exactly what you say you want. However, if you want to run around, that is your choice.
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post #19 of 29
4/1/06 at 12:00pm
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Originally posted by Ireland
[B]Ther reason I say this is because I have alot of nieces and nephews, and sometimes there here with me and they ask me if they can draw. Of course I say "I am sorry you can't because I've the new intel apple computer, and they no longer have any drawing software in their computers". I even feel strange saying it!

Maybe something like this would do:

http://www.macgimp.org/index.php?topic=osx86

Gimp is supposed to be the free, open source equivalent of Photoshop. In my opinion it needs a lot of improvements but it might work for you for the time being. One big issue is it gives you bitmap brushes by default so you need to make your own vector ones to be able to change brush size.

For vector based drawing, you can get inkscape:

http://www.inkscape.org/

You could get a cheap copy of Photoshop Elements off ebay or Amazon but it will always run under Rosetta.
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post #20 of 29
4/1/06 at 12:22pm
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Originally posted by Mr. Me
Apple bundles GraphicConverter with its professional computers. MS Paint is not even in the same league. GraphicConverter does exactly what you say you want. However, if you want to run around, that is your choice.

I don't have a professional computer and if I need to get a professional computer in order to change graphics formats, then something's wrong.
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post #21 of 29
4/1/06 at 1:55pm
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Originally posted by theapplegenius
I don't have a professional computer and if I need to get a professional computer in order to change graphics formats, then something's wrong.

What r3dx0r said. If all you want to do is convert formats, open the file in Preview and choose "Export..." from the file menu. If you want to do more sophisticated things, that's what the awesome universe of high-quality Mac shareware and small-house commercial software is for. Most folks consider it a GoodThing(tm) that Apple doesn't try to bundle crappy versions of everything-plus-the-kitchen-sink, and instead encourages this marvelous and unique ecosystem to thrive. There is no real counterpart on the Windows side - it either comes from Microsoft or you buy it from Adobe (or the like). It's a result of the passion and skill of small-time Mac developers, and the ease of use and free distribution of Mac development tools.
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post #22 of 29
4/1/06 at 4:23pm
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Originally posted by theapplegenius
I don't have a professional computer and if I need to get a professional computer in order to change graphics formats, then something's wrong.

There is no need to cop an attitude. There is nothing wrong with GraphicConverter. It is a small shareware app from a dedicated Macintosh developer. Apple's endorsement of GraphicConverter is testimony to this fact. This application is fully functional even if you don't pay the shareware fee. Until you pay the fee, there is only a short delay between when it launches and when it is usable.
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post #23 of 29
4/1/06 at 8:03pm
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Originally posted by Mr. Me
There is no need to cop an attitude. There is nothing wrong with GraphicConverter. It is a small shareware app from a dedicated Macintosh developer. Apple's endorsement of GraphicConverter is testimony to this fact. This application is fully functional even if you don't pay the shareware fee. Until you pay the fee, there is only a short delay between when it launches and when it is usable.

I'm not giving an attitude, I just want to be able to make stupid little ditzy drawings on a whim. Is that a problem?
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post #24 of 29
4/2/06 at 6:49am
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Originally posted by theapplegenius
I'm not giving an attitude, I just want to be able to make stupid little ditzy drawings on a whim. Is that a problem?

Download GraphicConverter. Problem solved.
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post #25 of 29
4/2/06 at 7:10am
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I'm not giving an attitude, I just want to be able to make stupid little ditzy drawings on a whim. Is that a problem?

Flysketch will do you nicely for the drawing part; you can choose file type.

http://www.flyingmeat.com/flysketch/

I agree that Graphic Converter is the way to go for changing file types of existing files.

 

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post #26 of 29
4/2/06 at 7:20am
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Originally posted by theapplegenius
I'm not giving an attitude, I just want to be able to make stupid little ditzy drawings on a whim. Is that a problem?

give pixen a try.
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post #27 of 29
4/2/06 at 7:37am
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Originally posted by theapplegenius
I still wish we had something like an MS Paint bundled. I shouldn't have to run around looking for software when i want to convert images to other formats.


theapplegenius?

More like the theapplenoob if you ask me...
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post #28 of 29
4/2/06 at 8:58am
I forgot to say that FLySketch allows you to take screen images, draw on top of them (even catch just the drawn image without the screen behind it). It is a great little app and is just 25 bucks. The support from the developer, Gus, is great.

I used to do a lot of drawing in AppleWorks and agree that Apple should make some kind of app for drawing so that users can add their own artwork to their digital lives.

More expensive, but nice graphics apps I use:

ConceptDraw ($149)
http://www.conceptdraw.com/en/products/cd5/main.php

Adobe Illustrator
(expensive- but got it on an educator's discount for almost 70%off)

AppleWorks is still available for 79 bucks I think. It has the added benefit of word processing, database and spreadsheet.

 

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post #29 of 29
4/2/06 at 1:47pm
Create -- drawing with print and web along for the ride. A few other things on that site too.

but but it doesn't say Apple on it!
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