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Responding to criticism over the potential for the players to cause hearing loss, Apple on Wednesday released a software update for its fifth-generation iPods and the iPod nano that allows users to set a maximum volume limit.

The 26.7MB update, labeled iPod Updater 2006-03-23, also offers some "bug fixes" according to a brief set of release notes accompanying its release.

Apple has been criticized recently over the iPods potential to cause hearing loss if listened to at high volumes for long periods of time.

A Northwestern University professor and audiologist in November claimed that the earbud-style headphones which ship with Apple's iPod and other MP3 players can cause serious, permanent hearing loss.

Just last month, the subject escalated when a group of lawyers and an iPod owner filed a federal lawsuit against the company, claiming the iPod causes hearing loss and that the iconic music player is "inherently defective in design and are not sufficiently adorned with adequate warnings regarding the likelihood of hearing loss."

"With the increased attention in this area, we want to offer customers an easy to use option to set their own personal volume limit," said Greg Joswiak, Apple's vice president of Worldwide iPod Product Marketing.

The new Volume Limit feature works with any headphone or accessory plugged into the iPod headphone jack as well as Apple's iPod Radio Remote. Once set, the volume limit can be locked with a combination code.

Instructions on how to locate and activate the new features on your iPod are available on Apple's support site.
post #2 of 34
Nice feature but this is hardly worthy of a lawsuit.

If you stick a torch in your mouth and suck on it, expect smoke down your lungs.

If you stick a noise maker in your ear, expect noise in your ears.
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post #3 of 34
At least something slightly useful came of this silliness.
post #4 of 34
I might be mistaken, but I thought all iPods had a volume control. You know, the kind where you can TURN IT DOWN.

Stupid lawyers.

I could possibly see the suit if the only music was from Spinal Tap. I mean, they are the "loudest band in England"
post #5 of 34
Nice to see how quickly apple can come up with a solution to a problem that isn't a problem. They still have an elegant "fix".

I would like to see creative make changes to their mp3 players with such ease.

Once again apple show how things can be done with no fuss or hassle it just works.

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post #6 of 34
You know, there's an old saying that if you try to make something idiot-proof, someone will come around and build a better idiot.

I suppose you could choke on the earbuds too, maybe those lawyers should try to find out in the interests of public safety...
post #7 of 34
I am an active iPod user and damn fond of this new, great feature. While skipping songs, forwarding or whatever (using the touch wheel actively and perhaps slightly distracted) accidently maxing the volume used to be too easy! Whenever I accidently max it, I instantly feel near reflex of throwing it into a brick wall -- only love holds me back.
post #8 of 34
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Originally posted by tak1108
I might be mistaken, but I thought all iPods had a volume control. You know, the kind where you can TURN IT DOWN.

Well, when at your quiet home you have good sound at a relatively low level, on the busy street or in the train you set the volume almost twice as loud. Without knowing it, you are pumping much pressure into your ears just to hear your music over the sound of traffic.
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Originally posted by johnrp
Nice to see how quickly apple can come up with a solution to a problem that isn't a problem. They still have an elegant "fix".

Problem that isn't a problem? Just turn it down?

I guess none of you have ever had the experience I had, where I put my iPod in my pocket one evening and forgot to lock out input. The next morning, I put in my earphones, turned on the iPod, and hit play, just like I always do. Somehow, though, while the iPod was in my pocket, the volume had been turned all the way up. So, deafening noise thundered into my ears for several seconds while I panicked, trying to get back to the "Now Playing" screen so I could turn down the volume.*

Now with this nice feature, I can set a max volume, and never have to worry about the output being painful. Problem solved.

I do think Apple may have given parents a false sense of security, though. A combination on the max volume? Unless they have some lockout mechanism after a few tries, or the combo is closer to 10 numbers (didn't notice a count), any kid is going to have it cracked in no time. All of their time will be spent staring at their iPod trying every number in sequence. I suppose this gets Apple out of legal liability, though. And, it's not like any easily-implemented mechanism wouldn't have been just as easily broken.


*Yes, I know, I should have pulled the headphones out of the jack/pressed pause/etc. for instant silence. I was panicking, it was early, I wasn't thinking clearly.
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post #10 of 34
Now no more money grabbing bastards will try to sue because they are too lazy to turn the volume down!!
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post #11 of 34
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Originally posted by knneth
I'm an iPod user and DAMN glad of this feature. While skipping songs, forwarding or whatever (using the touch wheel actively) accidently maxing the volume is too easy! Whenever I max it, I instantly feel the urge of throwing it into a brick wall, but ofcourse I couldn't do that because I love my iPod <3

I've experienced this situation many times. Sometimes when holding it or adjusting the volume I just touch it the wrong way and then it boosts the volume up all the way. Ouch.
post #12 of 34
It's almost as bad as the McDonalds lawsuit with them now having to put "This cup of coffee is hot" on the side.
post #13 of 34
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Originally posted by knneth
I'm an iPod user and DAMN glad of this feature. While skipping songs, forwarding or whatever (using the touch wheel actively) accidently maxing the volume is too easy! Whenever I max it, I instantly feel the urge of throwing it into a brick wall, but ofcourse I couldn't do that because I love my iPod <3

yup totally, any avid ipod user has experienced this.


people like aplnub grossly underestimate a feature like this
post #14 of 34
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Originally posted by Elixir
yup totally, any avid ipod user has experienced this.


people like aplnub grossly underestimate a feature like this

Not arguing it's not a useful feature, but I'm an avid ipod user who has never experienced that.
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post #15 of 34
Any little fix like this is welcome though what I would really like is a fix to get rid of blank space in between mixed music (ie. dance music comps.) on the iPod. No more interrupted transitions between songs! That really p*sses me off.
post #16 of 34
How can the guy, prove that it was his iPod that caused his earring loss? there are many things could of caused it, i.e traffic, work environment, night clubs, or maybe his misses slapping him around the head shouting down his lug!... most women do this!... lol, has to be a head banger to come with such a stupid lawsuit.

post #17 of 34
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Originally posted by tommyt74
How can the guy, prove that it was his iPod that caused his earring loss?

Maybe by the blood stain on the earbud when he yanked it out?
post #18 of 34
OUCH!........ thats funny thinking about it, what was the out come of the case? anyone no?
post #19 of 34
hope this helps MiMAC

open up itunes,
click on song u want to make shorter,
click on get info from the file menu.
click on option, look down the list u should see a start time and stop time, adjust the song length to suit

hope this helps!.....
post #20 of 34
I know what you're describing but what I really mean is the way in which the iPod pauses to access the next track while playing a mix. There is no fix for that (even what you have described will have no effect on the pause). Thanks anyway
post #21 of 34
My first reaction to the update was to say that now no more money grabbing bastards can sue apple because they are to lazy to turn the volume down!

That's is true, however on another website someone made a comment: "this is great cause now I can set the maximum volume on my two daughters iPods 8/9, with the security combination set, they now can't damage there ears with their iPods even if they want to listen to them at full volume.

In this case and similar ones with young kids, the update is a warm welcome to all parents who care about their kids.

Happy 30th apple!
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post #22 of 34
Ooh, we should start a new term around here: "Pulling an Ireland"

Definition: Posting the exact same post in two similar threads.
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post #23 of 34
Sounds good to me.
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Oh yey I forgot to ad that was a double post, but copy and paste is far quicker!
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post #25 of 34
I'm working on a lawsuit to hold auto manufacturers responsible for all accidents where at least one of the vehicles was traveling significantly above the speed limit. I mean really, if the car couldn't be driven that fast, and with just the twitch of your foot, mind you, how many lives could have been saved, and traffic tickets avoided? Who's with me?
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post #26 of 34
While I too am smart to not purposely deafen myself, I have accidentally increased the volume while the iPod was paused and then blasted myself when I hit play again. Once I update my iPods I might set the limiter as a safeguard because I don't think I legitimately ever need it blasting except for some crappy, low-volume podcasts.

Who uses SoundCheck on there iPod? I do, although its only about 85% effective and I still get some variation in track volumes.
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Originally posted by Mac Voyer
I'm working on a lawsuit to hold auto manufacturers responsible for all accidents where at least one of the vehicles was traveling significantly above the speed limit. I mean really, if the car couldn't be driven that fast, and with just the twitch of your foot, mind you, how many lives could have been saved, and traffic tickets avoided? Who's with me?

I'm also working on a suit to hold all manufactures of stairs responsible, cause those things are dangerous!
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post #28 of 34
I'm going to sue light bulb manufacturers because when I accidentally look into one when turning it on, it really blinds me! A lifetime of that could mess up my vision forever.

Seriously, though: Whenever I start playing a song on my iPod, I use the brief moment before the songs starts to crank the volume down so it doesn't blast me. That, or I could just play and pause the song, turn it down, and then unpause.
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post #29 of 34
When you puncture your ear drum, there is not usually blood. you would have to damage something other than your eardrum for blood to come out.

I should know, no blood either time! But pain, yes, but not that much. More of a discomfort.

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post #30 of 34
Does this somehow set an estimated dB rating? Otherwise, it's not as useful as it should be, but you'd have to have a way to input the headphone's volume per volt rating. This is assuming your headphones have such a rating, but most have such a rating. There are issues with that idea, unless you can also input the rated impedance, it might be not so accurate.

I don't like how people are making a big fuss over earbuds, I don't see how they are more damaging than regular headphones unless they are more efficient on output per volt.
post #31 of 34
I'm glad that a new iPod updater is out, I guess it's a good thing that there is a lot of time between them now meaning that there are not that many bugs left to squash.

It's just sad that Apple has to waste their time and creative energy to make a peice of software just to get the suits to shut up. And if these people are so stupid that they can't be trusted with volume control then they'll find a way around that too.

"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers."

Sure I've done that myself on occasion, and it's about as simple a mistake as accidently putting the shifter in the wrong gear, but if I'm tearing my earbuds out and cursing them I've no one to blame but myself.
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post #32 of 34
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Originally posted by tommyt74
How can the guy, prove that it was his iPod that caused his earring loss?

what?



huh?
post #33 of 34
does anyone know if this update fixes the problems with the 1.1 software version breaking video playback (audio cutting out after 30 seconds)?
post #34 of 34
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Originally posted by ipodandimac
what?



huh?

Yep, my reply to that was in jest though I don't think he got it.
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