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post #1 of 43
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I'm pretty sure mine are starting to bother me. Intermittently over the past week my jaw was been sore, I've had the occasional headache in my temples or forehead, and my cheeks and chin have been slightly swollen. Sucks. Going to some oral surgeon guy tomorrow to get some x-rays and the like.

So, who here has gone through this "adventure"? Have you had teeth pulled or surgically removed, and how many?

All things were great until suddenly last Monday all this started. I knew I had one wisdom tooth that was slightly lower than the others and probably needed to be looked in to, but my dentist wasn't concerned about the others. Ironically it is the other side of my mouth that I've started to have these issues.

I wasn't too keen on getting this done, but at this point if getting them pulled will get my life back to normal I say let's do it and get it over with ASAP!

So, what about you?
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post #2 of 43
All at once. Look into intravenous sedation (it's wikipediable, I believe). They give you local anaesthetic along with a bunch of valium-family drugs (plus some others) to put you into a euphoric state. My dentist had me bring a mix tape to keep me chill during the procedure. You're responsive to his/her directions during the procedure but won't remember a thing. Recovery is incredibly fast if all goes well. I ate a foot-long burrito at the Tibetan Freedom Concert 3 days after having all four out.

Some call this IV sedation "Twilight Sleep". No serious professional uses this term.

Oh yes, and sooner rather than later.

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post #3 of 43
I got all four wisdom teeth pulled almost two years ago. I don't remember what kind of sedative I was given, but I remember going in and sitting down in the chair, then waking up with some cotton balls stuck in my mouth. Recovery time was quick (a few days and I was back to normal) and with the pain medication they gave me, there really wasn't any discomfort after the procedure.
post #4 of 43
I used to hate going to the dentist... until I figured out the right drugs to ask for. Now I just view going to the dentist like going on a vacation to amsterdam.

Ask for some valium going in...
Get the nitrous while it is done...
Then make sure to get some good painkillers for the days after.
It's like a government approved phish concert.

Hope you are not afraid of blood either. When I got my wisdom teeth removed my mouth was like a faucet of blood for the day after. You basically have to just shove a load of gauze in your mouth let it soak it up. Dump it and Repeat.
post #5 of 43
my brother and I had our wisdom teeth pulled out a month or two ago... NOT FUN!

The older you are the slower you will recover is the lesson I learned. I'm 2 years old than my bro, it took him only 4 days to recover, but took me 2 weeks, though my procedure was a bit more difficult because they were impacted pretty good.

It's really funny when you first wake up, you say the strangest things... I have videos of my brother...

First 15 hours of my time after the surgery was spent sleeping on frozen peas, flipping over every 30 minutes. It REALLY hurt to eat, mainly because of the stitched up wounds, like rubbing lemon juice into a cut. I survived on slimfast for the first 2 days.

So, what I would recommend is this:
-Have someone you trust take care of you, they'll need to support you and drive you home and put you into bed.
-You'll probably have to take pain killers
-The person looking over you will have to have a kitchen timer or something, sleep on an ice pack, and switch sides every 30 minutes, this reduces swelling later on, do this for as long as you can up to 24 hours.
-Your going to have to have gauze in the backs of your jaws until you stop bleeding... ALOT! Make sure you sleep on a towel or paper towels that get changed every so often.
-have lots of soft, non-acidic, non-gritty foods on hand. Jello and Slimfast really were a godsend.
-After the first week, you'll need to get your hands on one of those rubber water squirter things that they use for babies (for their nose??? ), my oral surgeon gave me a strange syringe. You use it to irrigate the "pits" that are left. It's kinda entertaining to see how much crude comes spewing out that you never noticed (hmm, so that's what I ate 20 hours ago)


Conclusion? IT SUCKED! I rather get my appendix removed again, not being able to eat was the worst torture ever
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post #6 of 43
But Codine is so fun!
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post #7 of 43
oh man greatest week of my life. i remember drinking a beer while on painkillers and it fucked me up hilariously-- like 20 second delays to answering questions haha. whatever i was on tho, combined with my diet made for some serious constipation. read the side effects of whatever you're taking and plan accordingly. like eating some metamucil wafers. the apple flavor is kinda tasty.
post #8 of 43
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I can't tell if I should be worried or not.

I just wish my current problems cropped up before I visited the dentist two weeks ago. That way I would have at least gotten their opinion on the matter. Instead everything was fine at the time, so the only advice I have from them was for the one tooth that wasn't considered a top priority. They thought the others looked fine.

Oh well, we'll see what the man says tomorrow. Ideally I won't need to get more than one out, but of course being naive and easily tricked by psychosomatics, I have to fear getting a bunch of teeth pulled.

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post #9 of 43
Ah, to be one of those few who never had wisdom teeth.

post #10 of 43
a couple quick comments (i had four non-protuders pulled when i was 16)

1) if you don't typically have problems being put under, insist on being so.
2) don't plan anything for like a week. some people are up and about after a day or two, but others feel miserable for much longer. allow time for recovery. expect not to be able to eat solid foods for a couple of weeks. and don't get food stuck in your stitches, that can get ugly.

here in Macedonia, people think it's crazy that i've had my wisdom teeth pulled (why would they do that??) and no one i know here has ever had it done.
post #11 of 43
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Ok, so went by the oral surgeon and swung by my dentist today too. Overall the giant x-ray looked good, although I didn't get any exact answers as to why I've been feeling so crappy all week.

For my lowers, the one that is recessed and at a slight angle will require some choppin'. The other, while fully exposed, may require some extra work depending on how the roots go.

My top two wisdom teeth are in good shape, but the theory goes that they'll shift with the bottom two missing and could eventually be problematic in the years ahead.

The top set should be easier to pull as the tissue is softer, but the bottom two are the ones that are a hassle. Lucky for my my jaw is in good shape and my nerves aren't in the way or anything.

So I have 3 options:
* Do the bottom two with local anesthesia. (cheapest)
* Do the bottom two with IV anesthesia.
* Do all four with IV anesthesia. (most expensive)

At this point I'm inclined to get the good stuff (IV) and get all four taken out. Normally I'd say if they aint broke don't fix 'em, but since I've been going through hell the past week, I'll already be under, and they'll heal far faster now than in 10-20 more years, I think I should just bite (hah!) the bullet and get 'em all done. If I'm out and drugged up do I really care how much is done? Cost isn't too big of a deal even though I'll be paying out of pocket.

So I'm thinking to do it Friday afternoon so I can recover over the weekend and maybe take Monday/Tuesday off if needed. Furthermore, I plan to work at home this week so I can't get sick from grody coworkers or BART passengers and the like.

I also got a prescription for some pain killers and antibiotics to take before and after. Just means that Thursday night I won't get to drink as much beer as I usually would at pub night.

I don't think it'll be fun, but better to get it over with. Right?
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post #12 of 43
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Originally posted by ShawnJ
oh man greatest week of my life. i remember drinking a beer while on painkillers and it fucked me up hilariously-- like 20 second delays to answering questions haha. whatever i was on tho, combined with my diet made for some serious constipation. read the side effects of whatever you're taking and plan accordingly. like eating some metamucil wafers. the apple flavor is kinda tasty.

Supposedly, the codone derivatives (Hydrocodone, Oxycodone) produce the side effect of constipation. I was on Vicodin (Hydrocodone) for a spell after shattering my wrist last June, and I had a totally opposite reaction. That is, the opposite of constipation, and when I had a beer, it wasn't fun at all: it just made the pain increase.
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post #13 of 43
Here is what I remember about getting my wisdom teeth pulled. I went to an oral surgeon. They gave me something to put me out. I don't remember how it was done since this happened about 15 years ago. All I remember is that they asked me to count backwards from 100 and I got to like 97 and was out.

I have no experience with the painkillers afterwards and whether they would help because I refuse to take such things based off my family history. (My family is full of addicts of various sorts)

You will bleed some. There are big holes in your mouth where teeth used to be and sometimes some stitches.

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post #14 of 43
I remember the day I had my wisdom teeth pulled, it was the day Steve Jobs announced the Power Mac G4s. One tooth was impacted so it was fairly unpleasant afterwards.

The worst part was, after I got home and watched the keynote (it was streamed), my parents decided to go shopping somewhere (either a BJs or Costco) and I decided it would be a good idea to get out of the house. About 30 minutes into their food shopping, the medication they had used to dull the pain wore off. I don't think I'll forget that day any time soon.

Thankfully, they had knocked me out for this oral surgery. In fact, they scared me before I went under by having me count backwards from 100. I got to 0 and stared at them before they realized they didn't have it turned on. My brother was not so lucky. He had a 'sniffle' the day he went in to get his wisdom teeth pulled out so they refused to give him anything other than a local. He was in agony. My mother was outside waiting for him and said that it sounded like he was being tortured. It didn't help that he was able to see blood gush out of his mouth at one point during the procedure and that he was fairly young at the time.

So yeah, I agree with the points already made.

1.) If you have the option of being put under, do it.

2.) Plan for a good amount of time to recover. You're experiencing minor discomfort and headaches now. It would probably be wise to set aside 5-7 days for this. You can always go back to work early if you don't need that much time.
post #15 of 43
Two words...Nitrous Oxide! Get it if you can, makes the experience much easier. I had mine pulled a couple years ago, and after the doctor yanked one out she dropped it and it clattered away across the floor. I started laughing at that, just seemed really funny at the time. They must have thought I was crazy.

When it was time to go I asked if they could fill up a trash bag with nitrous so I could take some home.
post #16 of 43
My strong recommend for the wisdom tooth extraction is the Benzodiazapine family of drugs if your dentist offers that. They are commonly used in "sedation" dentistry & they should be a very inexpensive option since one only needs a 2-3 pills along with a hook-up to a heart monitor.

The recovery is easy & you will have no memory of the experience at all. What you do remember will probably be very funny to you afterwards.

good luck!

ps: I had all 4 wisdoms done at once. No problems with pain or swelling after. None. Guess I got lucky.
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post #17 of 43
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Scheduled my appointment for Friday morning. I wanted Friday afternoon but they were booked. Oh well.

Definitely going with the IV drugs and I'll do all 4 so I never have to deal with this crap again.

The upside is if I snuff it, it'll probably be pretty pain free!
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post #18 of 43
All four out at once, with just 12 shots of local anesthesia, 3 per tooth!! One was coming in sideways, and the dentist had to crush it and suck the pieces out! "CRUNCH! CRUNCH!" I'll never forget that sound. And to top it off, the Navy did it on a Friday and gave me just 2 days off, so I didn't even miss any work!
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post #19 of 43
All four of mine are scheduled to come out in a few weeks. I've been hearing stories from friends, and I'm beginning to get a little nervous (they couldn't bring themselves to sugar coat it a little). gulp*

A few of my friends have said they had bad reactions to the vicodin making them throw it up before any pain-killing had begun. Has anyone experienced this? The ones for which it did work became kind of hyper aware and got freaked out really easily, is that normal?
post #20 of 43
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A few of my friends have said they had bad reactions to the vicodin making them throw it up before any pain-killing had begun. Has anyone experienced this? The ones for which it did work became kind of hyper aware and got freaked out really easily, is that normal?

No. Usually -- and especially on the first dose -- it makes you very sleepy. That's about it.
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post #21 of 43
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Originally posted by ShawnJ
oh man greatest week of my life. i remember drinking a beer while on painkillers and it fucked me up hilariously-- like 20 second delays to answering questions haha. whatever i was on tho, combined with my diet made for some serious constipation. read the side effects of whatever you're taking and plan accordingly. like eating some metamucil wafers. the apple flavor is kinda tasty.

Heh. My experience exactly. They gave the "twilight sleep" or whatever it is, pulled all four. I have very vague memories of stuff happening, but nothing bad.

Being a veteran drug abuser, I naturally wanted to have fun with in my befuddled state after they got me out of the chair. They put my in a curtained cubicle to chill, but found me wandering around in an empty examination room, laughing quietly at the machinery....

I was still drinking then and naturally paid no heed to the "if you drink while taking these pills your breathing will stop" warnings.

Quite a remarkable high. Nothing out of control, just massive, massive satisfaction with everything exactly as it was.

Mind you, I was doing this at my job, that being the sort of thing that ended up motivating to stop drinking and drugging.
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post #22 of 43
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Originally posted by Splinemodel
Supposedly, the codone derivatives (Hydrocodone, Oxycodone) produce the side effect of constipation. I was on Vicodin (Hydrocodone) for a spell after shattering my wrist last June, and I had a totally opposite reaction. That is, the opposite of constipation, and when I had a beer, it wasn't fun at all: it just made the pain increase.

Ah! That's what it was. I took Combunox (Oxycodone and Ibuprofen).

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They put my in a curtained cubicle to chill, but found me wandering around in an empty examination room, laughing quietly at the machinery....



I remember waking up and asking when they're going to start the procedure. The nurses just looked at me like I was crazy: I'd been out for three hours at that point. It was great.
post #23 of 43
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Originally posted by iPoster
All four out at once, with just 12 shots of local anesthesia, 3 per tooth!! One was coming in sideways, and the dentist had to crush it and suck the pieces out! "CRUNCH! CRUNCH!" I'll never forget that sound. And to top it off, the Navy did it on a Friday and gave me just 2 days off, so I didn't even miss any work!

That's craziness!

Luckily this week my teeth haven't been bothering me as much, although I can tell my left cheek is slightly swollen. If it was really hurting I'd probably be tough enough to do as you did and get them done pronto! But at this point I'm looking forward to it just happening and waking up with it over.


The meds I got prescriptions for are:
* Amoxicillin
* Percocet (aka acetaminophen and oxycodone)

Unfortunately my consult went by rather quickly and at this point I'm not sure of the frequency to which I should be taking these. I'm sure it'll be on the bottles when I swing by Kaiser tomorrow.

Anyone want to guess how much 4 teeth + IV anesthesia is costing me?
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post #24 of 43
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* Percocet (aka acetaminophen and oxycodone)

My advice is to seriosuly avoid the bottle(despite what everyone in this thread seems to say). The problem isn't so much the oxycodone, but is the high level of acetaminophen that's in it. Drinking takes away the effectiveness of the drug, which means that you'll be high as a kite, but in a lot of pain.
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post #25 of 43
My wisdom teeth are coming in straight, should I feel left out?
post #26 of 43
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My wisdom teeth are coming in straight, should I feel left out?

No. You're at greater risk for developing periodontal gum disease if you leave them in. At least that's what the industry-supplied brochure and dentist's sales pitch said. Hmm.
post #27 of 43
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My advice is to seriosuly avoid the bottle(despite what everyone in this thread seems to say). The problem isn't so much the oxycodone, but is the high level of acetaminophen that's in it. Drinking takes away the effectiveness of the drug, which means that you'll be high as a kite, but in a lot of pain.

Yeah, I think I can handle laying off the booze for a week or so. So far, leading up to the procedure, I've been super good behavior: loading up on vitamin C and getting plenty of rest. Hopefully this will help me make a speedy recovery.

The hardest will be tomorrow and a week from tomorrow as Thursday is our usual Pub Night at Triple Rock. (Swing by if you're in Berkeley!) They want me to have a light dinner -- so no burgers -- and not have any booze so I don't get dehydrated -- so no Monkey Head beer. I also think the booze could conflict with the antibiotics. Anyhow, hopefully by Thursday next week I'll be on the mend.

Not how I planned on taking a few days vacation, but its better than nothing!
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post #28 of 43
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My wisdom teeth are coming in straight, should I feel left out?

Well my top two are pretty straight and one on the bottom is fairly straight too. I also had a good deal of braces as a kid so room is not supposed to be an issue.

That said, I'm definitely feeling it. Without talking about the random pain and various aches, overall I'd describe it as saying I had too many teeth. This came on suddenly.

I'm only 26 and I wish I did this like 5 years ago. But better late than never. For some people it will never be an issue but others you're just waiting to see. Either way, getting a consultation and panoramic x-ray is only about $200 and gives a fairly full picture regarding teeth, roots, gums, jaw, etc. If you get one and decide not to go forward I'm sure you'd need another x-ray in like 10 years. But if you ever do have to get them out, I'd highly suggest doing it sooner rather than later.

And yeah, what ShawnJ said about dental propaganda. Its fairly true same as how "floater" teeth can shift and become a problem in the future. This is why I elected to just have 'em all out at once since I'd be under anyhow, especially since the top two are supposedly easier than the bottom two.
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post #29 of 43
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My wisdom teeth are coming in straight, should I feel left out?

No, because your wisdom teeth are actually coming in, which is less optimal than having them not come in at all. My Dad's never came in, and I turn 25 in July without any sign of them so far.

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post #30 of 43
I got mine pulled about three years ago.

I'm 22 have 7 fillings and a crown that fell out when the baby tooth fell out.
(I swear I do take care of my teeth!)

Story goes: 3 years ago on one of my many visits to the dentist to get a cavity filled, I found out that I would need braces, nothing serious, just that my teeth weren't aligned right or some thing like that. I'm hopping around from dentist to orthodontist to dentist to oral surgeon, they are telling me what I need done.

So, before I was to get braces I was to get an adult tooth removed that was still in my gum line. I still have that baby tooth!
I go in for surgery and get it removed from my gum. Local anesthetic.

I find out that I would also need to get my wisdom teeth pulled out or they will interfere with the braces. So, I go back to the oral surgeon and get my wisdom teeth pulled, local anesthetic; just Novocain. I drive home. No pain. I don't need to take the Percocet that they prescribed but I take it anyways!

I get my wisdom teeth pulled and go get braces. All in the span of 1 month! Didn't miss 1 class or a day at work! I had my braces removed 1 year ago and everything has been fine.
post #31 of 43
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Originally posted by Splinemodel
My advice is to seriosuly avoid the bottle(despite what everyone in this thread seems to say). The problem isn't so much the oxycodone, but is the high level of acetaminophen that's in it. Drinking takes away the effectiveness of the drug, which means that you'll be high as a kite, but in a lot of pain.

I agree, drinking + painkillers = bad juju!!

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post #32 of 43
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Supposedly, the codone derivatives (Hydrocodone, Oxycodone) produce the side effect of constipation. I was on Vicodin (Hydrocodone) for a spell after shattering my wrist last June, and I had a totally opposite reaction. That is, the opposite of constipation, and when I had a beer, it wasn't fun at all: it just made the pain increase.

I think are confused on the meds you had. Vicodin is hydrocodone, there is regular Vicodin which is 5/500 and Vicodin ES 7.5/750. First number is the hydrocodone in mg and the second is the tylenol in mg. Lorcet, vicodin, norco are all the same, just different combos of the meds.
post #33 of 43
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I think are confused on the meds you had.

Uhhh. . . I had vicodin, which is a combo of hydrocodone and acetamenophen. How is what you said any different?
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post #34 of 43
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Less than 24 hours now. Hopefully by this time tomorrow I'll be waking up all groggy at the oral surgeons office beginning my days of painful, twilight recovery.

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post #35 of 43
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Uhhh. . . I had vicodin, which is a combo of hydrocodone and acetamenophen. How is what you said any different?

Wow..lol. It was real late when I posted that last night, for some reason I misread what you had said. Sorry about that.
post #36 of 43
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Back from the oral surgeon and the procedure went well. Now its time for tepid soup, meds, and sleep.

I'll post back regarding how it goes, but overall it wasn't too bad at all. Then again the novacaine or whatnot is still working.

Thanks for the info and support everyone, I appreciate it!
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post #37 of 43
Oooh, waking up the day after was not a good experience. I really had to brush and rinse several times if you know what I mean!
post #38 of 43
ahh dentist!

speeking of dentist did you know that women would rather go to the dentist and get a tooth pulled then go bathing suit shoping? i heard it on the radio...
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ahh dentist!

speeking of dentist did you know that women would rather go to the dentist and get a tooth pulled then go bathing suit shoping? i heard it on the radio...

Only fat women.
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Only fat women.

Only problem with that statement is that all the women I have met seem to think that they are fat or otherwise physically insufficient (for what I do not know). Thank you y-chromosome, thank you.
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